Switch Mega Installer AIO By RiPPERD

ldeveraux · Feb 2, 2019

RiPPERD said:
i could make an uninstaller but it would be one of 2 things... a total uninstaller that would remove everything that it installed this may include files needed though
or
a batch file or similar to remove files

for now i will just make it install seperatly the cfw files

How about that support!

RiPPERD · Feb 2, 2019

ldeveraux said:
How about that support!

ill add it to the list mate but prob wont be until v1.6

ldeveraux · Feb 2, 2019

RiPPERD said:
ill add it to the list mate but prob wont be until v1.6

It was a joke. That should have been included from the beginning. Had I known there was no easy way back, I'd never have installed.

RiPPERD · Feb 2, 2019

ldeveraux said:
It was a joke. That should have been included from the beginning. Had I known there was no easy way back, I'd never have installed.

Really? its pretty simple to sort out even a monkey could do it... lol
im not really sure what your trying to achieve... you have not said... you also have not said your choice of cfw?
since your not a dev im assuming you dont have anything on your sd card other than games... so you only want your games backed up... so just dont delete the user data stuff and games related folders

just so you know my app installs files to the sd card it doesnt install anything to the switch itself... so nothing is permanently installed to the switch so its easy to go back.

heres a few ways for you lol

1. install to a directory on your computer and then check what files it installs against your sd card

2. you could delete the files you dont want manually by actually going onto your sd card from computer.... or using the NX SHELL app you installed with my app (if you ticked the box for it) everything is named as per its release so self explains

3. if you need more help then ask directly and provide info on your situation so for example:
hello im running a switch with 6.2.0 and i run atmosphere 0.8.3 i have used your tool and i ticked everything (or X Y & Z) and now i want to remove some stuff or change to another cfw... but im not sure how can you help me please

i hope this helps you further... if not then im here to help

PyroGoat · Feb 2, 2019

ldeveraux said:
It was a joke. That should have been included from the beginning. Had I known there was no easy way back, I'd never have installed.

I feel the tool serves its purpose well as far as quickly organizing and installing optional items to your fresh SD card.

For items you wish to "uninstall" or remove, I would suggest manually deleting them from your SD card for now.

Even though it installs the files to your SD card I feel you should still have a basic understanding of each item before you install. If that were the case, manually removing them from the SD card should be no problem.

ldeveraux · Feb 3, 2019

You people clearly don't understand what I'm saying. I shouldn't have had to remove anything, I know what I thought I was installing, there was a theme added incidentally. On top of that, since I should never have needed to remove anything, I don't need more advice on how to remove items. I know how to do it, that's not at all the point.

RiPPERD · Feb 3, 2019

ldeveraux said:
You people clearly don't understand what I'm saying. I shouldn't have had to remove anything, I know what I thought I was installing, there was a theme added incidentally. On top of that, since I should never have needed to remove anything, I don't need more advice on how to remove items. I know how to do it, that's not at all the point.

ok well yeah it seems this is due to 1 of the cfw files but to fix the issue you would have to remove 1 or more of the files. i will fix this in next release as i said

Ev1l0rd · Feb 4, 2019

I didn't think we'd have another of these, but let's go for a license violation round. I'll mention devs that I know are on here.

Atmosphere CFW, ReiNX CFW
LockPick (Dumping Keys)
Gag Order
Briccmii
ZeroTwoXCI (XCI Installer)

All are under GPLv2. @SciresM , @Reisyukaku , @shchmue , @Adubbz , @rajkosto , @EliseZeroTwo .

ArgonNX Also Added!
Kosmos Kit
Checkpoint (Save Manger)
GoldLeaf (NSP Installer)
FTP for Switch
Cheat Engine for Switch
JK's Save Manager.
NX-Shell

All are under GPLv3. @tomGER , @XorTroll , @jakibaki , @JK_ , @Joel16 .

Homebrew App Store
Homebrew Menu
Edizon (Save Manager)

ISC. @WerWolv for Edizon.

Media Player (pplay)
Theme Installer (NXThemes Installer)

ARR (no license found, means people next to it have full control over how it's distributed/used). @cpasjuste , @exelix11 .

Tinfoil (NSP Installer)
& SXOS Now!

Closed source. blawar and Gary, but I doubt either gives a rats arse given their own behavior.

Emulators (Snes, GB, GBA, Arcade, ScummVM)
khedGB
PFBA
PSnes
VBA Next

@jakibaki , @cpasjuste (note: PSnes is indirectly licensed under snes9xs non-commercial license) and @catlover007 . These are all under various licenses, but in summary; mostly MIT, some GPL.

RetroArch with ALL emulators

@m4xw - RA is under the GPLv3. Individual cores are under varying licenses.

Cursive stuff is things that I had to figure out by running the exe as they were mentioned without a description on the OP. Gag order is not mentioned on the OP but is included.

To OP: My advice is this:

FOSS your projects code, this project rn violates warez rules on GBATemp.
Link to all the projects you used in the installer.
Take out the stuff I listed under ARR and closed source, you are not legally allowed to redistribute those.

RiPPERD · Feb 4, 2019

Ev1l0rd said:
I didn't think we'd have another of these, but let's go for a license violation round. I'll mention devs that I know are on here.

All are under GPLv2. @SciresM , @Reisyukaku , @shchmue , @Adubbz , @rajkosto , @EliseZeroTwo .

All are under GPLv3. @tomGER , @XorTroll , @jakibaki , @JK_ , @Joel16 .

ISC. @WerWolv for Edizon.

ARR (no license found, means people next to it have full control over how it's distributed/used). @cpasjuste , @exelix11 .

Closed source. blawar and Gary, but I doubt either gives a rats arse given their own behavior.

@jakibaki , @cpasjuste (note: PSnes is indirectly licensed under snes9xs non-commercial license) and @catlover007 . These are all under various licenses, but in summary; mostly MIT, some GPL.

@m4xw - RA is under the GPLv3. Individual cores are under varying licenses.

Cursive stuff is things that I had to figure out by running the exe as they were mentioned without a description on the OP. Gag order is not mentioned on the OP but is included.

To OP: My advice is this:

FOSS your projects code, this project rn violates warez rules on GBATemp.

Link to all the projects you used in the installer.

Take out the stuff I listed under ARR and closed source, you are not legally allowed to redistribute those.

Oh dear the fun police have struck lol
there is no direct warez in my app mate no roms included with anything, no illegal content only homebrew apps created by users which seem to be on gbatemp as you have tagged them all (thank you)
i have not made this to enable piracy just an AIO tool for users to use and make it easier as some users have no idea where to start or how to use a lot of HB apps.

i plan on releasing a new version today (ive been ill with man flu for last week nearly) this will include links to the github sources thus giving credit to original sources.
I would also like to add i have NOT modified ANY files in any way so i have not broken any rules regarding their licences to my knowledge.

NOTE TO THE DEVS OF THE APPS (those that are tagged should see this)

if you have any issues with me sharing you work via my app then please feel free to contact me with your concerns/ideas etc and i will move forward either with or without you and your app included in my app in the future releases. i meant no harm or disrespect by making my app it was just a complilation of all the things i have used or do use on my switch with extras others requested to me.

After making my app someone showed me SDSetup which is basically the same thing except its online and you have to tick a lot of boxes etc and my app includes more stuff and is updated before sdsetup.

my app source code cannot be released due to how i make the app its not a source code made app i use a paid for app from indigo rose that i add the files to and then set where i want them to go and add them to packages (main files, edizon, etc the tick boxes i use) and then it compiles it into an easy to use exe file for end users... thus there is no source code to release.

hope this clears a few things up?

Byokugen · Feb 4, 2019

You need to contact them... you're using their stuff... not the other way around

Ev1l0rd · Feb 4, 2019

RiPPERD said:
there is no direct warez in my app mate no roms included with anything, no illegal content only homebrew apps created by users which seem to be on gbatemp as you have tagged them all (thank you)

Terms & Rules said:
These rules also apply to other "warez" too, not just ROM, WAD, ISO & CIA files; this includes (but is NOT limited to) - licensed and copyrighted software, code, movies, music, video games, magazines, comics, e-books, television shows, illegal torrents, etc. These rules also account for "keygens" and "cracks" including how to obtain, apply or install them.

Emphasis mine. FOSS software is still licensed and copyrighted.

RiPPERD said:
i plan on releasing a new version today (ive been ill with man flu for last week nearly) this will include links to the github sources thus giving credit to original sources.

Not enough, the GPL projects demand your project also to be placed under the GPL. Either take out all GPL projects or don't do this.

RiPPERD said:
After making my app someone showed me SDSetup which is basically the same thing except its online and you have to tick a lot of boxes etc and my app includes more stuff and is updated before sdsetup.

SDSetup is FOSS, it pulls from the GitHub directly, it links to all the source codes of the software it uses, ergo SDSetup is fine. You on the other hand bundle the software, ergo you are redistributing said software.

RiPPERD said:
my app source code cannot be released due to how i make the app its not a source code made app i use a paid for app from indigo rose that i add the files to and then set where i want them to go and add them to packages (main files, edizon, etc the tick boxes i use) and then it compiles it into an easy to use exe file for end users... thus there is no source code to release.

Then I'm afraid you can't legally make this project a thing. Shucks to be you, but that's how it is.

sweetlilmre · Feb 4, 2019

Ev1l0rd said:
Emphasis mine. FOSS software is still licensed and copyrighted.

Not enough, the GPL projects demand your project also to be placed under the GPL. Either take out all GPL projects or don't do this.

SDSetup is FOSS, it pulls from the GitHub directly, it links to all the source codes of the software it uses, ergo SDSetup is fine. You on the other hand bundle the software, ergo you are redistributing said software.

Then I'm afraid you can't legally make this project a thing. Shucks to be you, but that's how it is.

How does redistributing a GPL project demand that the distribution mechanism be GPL?

If the source is available via link to github etc. then that seems to cover source availability.

You're getting righteously upset for nothing here.

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Ev1l0rd · Feb 4, 2019

sweetlilmre said:
How does redistributing a GPL project demand that the distribution mechanism be GPL?

If the source is available via link to github etc. then that seems to cover source availability.

You're getting righteously upset for nothing here.

It's called copyleft.

Below excerpt is from GPL 3.0, but the 2.0 version carries similar notices. This project counts as a work based on the Program, and as a result it goes under this section.

https://choosealicense.com/licenses/gpl-3.0/

Code:

  5. Conveying Modified Source Versions.

  You may convey a work based on the Program, or the modifications to
produce it from the Program, in the form of source code under the
terms of section 4, provided that you also meet all of these conditions:

   c) You must license the entire work, as a whole, under this
   License to anyone who comes into possession of a copy.  This
   License will therefore apply, along with any applicable section 7
   additional terms, to the whole of the work, and all its parts,
   regardless of how they are packaged.  This License gives no
   permission to license the work in any other way, but it does not
   invalidate such permission if you have separately received it.

RiPPERD · Feb 4, 2019

all my sources are also from github just like sdsetup
my app basically does exactly the same as sdsetup except you get a exe file not a zip file
i make no profit from it in any way i dont even use money links or pay per click crap just a file host to host it
i made the same app for the original wii and no complaints or lawsuits there

so it seems the only issue is that i dont link the sources to the github pages... which i will address in next release.
all the apps included are open source which conflicts a lot of copyright laws as it is anyway.
im not sure where your servers are but i live in UK and im pretty sure what ive done doesn't break any UK laws.
going by your snipit from gpl then i have not modified any files so not broken the rights there either

not trying to be awkward just stating certain things... not looking to upset any devs as i said im just making an aio easy to use app for the end users which was my goal as i only got switches at xmas so when i came to hacking them etc it wasnt as easy as it could be... so i made an easy to use tool.... simples lol

Ev1l0rd · Feb 4, 2019

RiPPERD said:
all my sources are also from github just like sdsetup
my app basically does exactly the same as sdsetup except you get a exe file not a zip file
i make no profit from it in any way i dont even use money links or pay per click crap just a file host to host it

Your application bundles the files in the exe (obvious due to the giant filesize). SDSetup downloads them clientside through the browser last I checked, which already puts it in a different situation (and makes your claim of SDSetup being slower to be updated than your program invalid).

Copyright doesn't care for profit or not.

RiPPERD said:
i made the same app for the original wii and no complaints or lawsuits there

I wasn't in the Wii scene, but rest assured, if it happened back then, I would've noted it too.

RiPPERD said:
so it seems the only issue is that i dont link the sources to the github pages... which i will address in next release.
all the apps included are open source which conflicts a lot of copyright laws as it is anyway.

I'm sorry but you will either need to change your installer program (NSIS might be a more viable solution) or not do this project at all. I looked up that installer software you mentioned and it's proprietary, which makes everything it does entirely incompatible with the GPL.

FOSS doesn't conflict with any copyright laws, I suggest you look up how copyright works before making such claims.

RiPPERD said:
all the apps included are open source which conflicts a lot of copyright laws as it is anyway.

GPL has been held up in court several times.

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RiPPERD said:
going by your snipit from gpl then i have not modified any files so not broken the rights there either

Copyleft means the fact your program makes use of GPL programs, your program must also be under GPL. The license that says what you want here is the LGPL (Lesser/Library GNU Public License), which none of these projects are licensed under.

sweetlilmre · Feb 4, 2019

Ev1l0rd said:

It's called copyleft.

Below excerpt is from GPL 3.0, but the 2.0 version carries similar notices. This project counts as a work based on the Program, and as a result it goes under this section.

https://choosealicense.com/licenses/gpl-3.0/

Code:

  5. Conveying Modified Source Versions.

  You may convey a work based on the Program, or the modifications to
produce it from the Program, in the form of source code under the
terms of section 4, provided that you also meet all of these conditions:

   c) You must license the entire work, as a whole, under this
   License to anyone who comes into possession of a copy.  This
   License will therefore apply, along with any applicable section 7
   additional terms, to the whole of the work, and all its parts,
   regardless of how they are packaged.  This License gives no
   permission to license the work in any other way, but it does not
   invalidate such permission if you have separately received it.

Sorry but that is BS.
"5. Conveying Modified Source Versions." is not what this app does.

Read "6. Conveying Non-Source Forms.".
Specifically section C.

I totally agree that GPL compliance should be observed when applicable, but in this case you're barking up the wrong tree mate.

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RiPPERD · Feb 4, 2019

Ev1l0rd said:
Your application bundles the files in the exe (obvious due to the giant filesize). SDSetup downloads them clientside through the browser last I checked, which already puts it in a different situation (and makes your claim of SDSetup being slower to be updated than your program invalid). - i updated to 0.8.3 atmosphere before sdsetup had it on there so my point was valid

Copyright doesn't care for profit or not. - there is no copyright as ive not stolen anything its open source and i downloaded via my own browser first

I wasn't in the Wii scene, but rest assured, if it happened back then, I would've noted it too.

I'm sorry but you will either need to change your installer program (NSIS might be a more viable solution) or not do this project at all. I looked up that installer software you mentioned and it's proprietary, which makes everything it does entirely incompatible with the GPL. - the installer is basically like winrar for sdsetup... instead of extracting a zip file you extract a exe file to the sd card it shouldn't make any difference to any laws or right

FOSS doesn't conflict with any copyright laws, I suggest you look up how copyright works before making such claims. - i have no idea what this is ill look it up now

GPL has been held up in court several times. - i cant see a dev taking me to court over me sharing their open source work when i dont even release their source codes only the end products, i download all the things through my own browser i put them all into a folder on my computer in the right order for the sd card then load them into the installer maker etc etc

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Copyleft means the fact your program makes use of GPL programs, your program must also be under GPL. The license that says what you want here is the LGPL (Lesser/Library GNU Public License), which none of these projects are licensed under.

see the red bits for reply - this thread got well too deep for a monday morning mate! jesus! what happened to the old days where hacking, making, patching etc was all for FUN and not so serious all the time?

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sweetlilmre said:
Sorry but that is BS.
"5. Conveying Modified Source Versions." is not what this app does.

Read "6. Conveying Non-Source Forms.".
Specifically section C.

I totally agree that GPL compliance should be observed when applicable, but in this case you're barking up the wrong tree mate.

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cheers for your input and support mate

Ev1l0rd · Feb 4, 2019

sweetlilmre said:
Sorry but that is BS.
"5. Conveying Modified Source Versions." is not what this app does.

Read "6. Conveying Non-Source Forms.".
Specifically section C.

I totally agree that GPL compliance should be observed when applicable, but in this case you're barking up the wrong tree mate.

c) Convey individual copies of the object code with a copy of the
written offer to provide the Corresponding Source. This
alternative is allowed only occasionally and noncommercially, and
only if you received the object code with such an offer, in accord
with subsection 6b.

only occasionally and noncommercially, and only if you received the object code with such an offer

Section 6b isn't being followed and also none of the projects are released with the notice that option 6c applies.

RiPPERD · Feb 4, 2019

Ev1l0rd said:
only occasionally and noncommercially, and only if you received the object code with such an offer

Section 6b isn't being followed and also none of the projects are released with the notice that option 6c applies.

there is NOTHING commercial about my app i make no profit and take no credit for the contents of it

Ev1l0rd · Feb 4, 2019

- i updated to 0.8.3 atmosphere before sdsetup had it on there so my point was valid

SDSetup uses Kosmos, not Atmosphere. There's a difference between the two.

- there is no copyright as ive not stolen anything its open source and i downloaded via my own browser first

That's not how copyright works.

- the installer is basically like winrar for sdsetup... instead of extracting a zip file you extract a exe file to the sd card it shouldn't make any difference to any laws or right

It does. SDSetup a. downloads the tools, b. provides links to the source code in question on it's pageand c. adds in a licenses folder that contains the neccesary licenses that apply to the downloaded software.

In addition, SDSetup itself is under the GPL license which means it also complies with the required copyleft of the GPL projects.

Your program does none of these things.

- i have no idea what this is ill look it up now

FOSS = Free Open Source Software. Specifically used for licenses endorsed by the FSF/GNU Foundation. The GPL and it's variants are FOSS licenses.

. - i cant see a dev taking me to court over me sharing their open source work when i dont even release their source codes only the end products, i download all the things through my own browser i put them all into a folder on my computer in the right order for the sd card then load them into the installer maker etc etc

That's not how copyright works. Just because you won't be sued for it doesn't make it legal. Me crossing the street on a red light isn't likely to get me a fine, that doesn't mean I can cross the street on a red light. Absence of getting punished for a crime doesn't not make it a crime.

RiPPERD said:
there is NOTHING commercial about my app i make no profit and take no credit for the contents of it

The problem for you is that the developer has to release their product with the notice that 6c applies on it. You can't choose to follow notice 6c, which for the record, you can't do anyway since you're not physically distributing this program on a physical medium.

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