Hacking Official [Source Release] ReiNand CFW

[The Catboy]

Then use another CFW or don't play those games. Nothing requires you to use ReiNAND, and if you don't like its feature set use something else.

I am not going to lie, that's just an awful response to this situation. I mean yes, I have 5 other CFWs that I could choose from right now, but I would love to enjoy the CFW that most of them use as their base.
It's pretty obvious that there is a demand for these patches and just being like, "Not my problem, go somewhere else," is pretty shitty

 

[Supster131]

I am not going to lie, that's just an awful response to this situation. I mean yes, I have 5 other CFWs that I could choose from right now, but I would love to enjoy the CFW that most of them use as their base.
It's pretty obvious that there is a demand for these patches and just being like, "Not my problem, go somewhere else," is pretty shitty

Well, what other response do you want? Rei doesn't want to add reboot patches, so you cannot play Sm4sh or MH4 on an o3DS with ReiNAND.

 

[The Catboy]

Well, what other response do you want? Rei doesn't want to add reboot patches, so you cannot play Sm4sh or MH4 on an o3DS with ReiNAND.

An actual attempt. He wants cleaner and better patches, but doesn't care to make them. So everyone else just has to just deal with not playing these games on his CFW. If he really doesn't want to put the effort into making better patches, then he is better off just using the patches already available, instead of being like, "I don't play them, so I don't care."

 

[Supster131]

An actual attempt. He wants cleaner and better patches, but doesn't care to make them. So everyone else just has to just deal with not playing these games on his CFW. If he really doesn't want to put the effort into making better patches, then he is better off just using the patches already available, instead of being like, "I don't play them, so I don't care."

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Wolfvak]

An actual attempt. He wants cleaner and better patches, but doesn't care to make them. So everyone else just has to just deal with not playing these games on his CFW. If he really doesn't want to put the effort into making better patches, then he is better off just using the patches already available, instead of being like, "I don't play them, so I don't care."

So basically you're saying that because you want them he should implement them? If so, my response would be the same.

If you don't like it, fork it and add the capability. If you look at how Cakes / Luma do it, it should be easy to add.

https://github.com/AuroraWright/Luma3DS/blob/master/source/firm.c#L352
https://github.com/AuroraWright/Luma3DS/blob/master/source/patches.c#L56

 

[The Catboy]

So basically you're saying that because you want them he should implement them? If so, my response would be the same.

If you don't like it, fork it and add the capability. If you look at how Cakes / Luma do it, it should be easy to add.

https://github.com/AuroraWright/Luma3DS/blob/master/source/firm.c#L352
https://github.com/AuroraWright/Luma3DS/blob/master/source/patches.c#L56

No, what I am saying is, there's a demand for these patch. It's literally part of the main feature on every single CFW based on ReiNAND
Luma 3DS

SaltFW

mizuki

And it's part of CakesFW, but you get the point.
There's an obvious enough demand for these patch that it's become part of the main advertised features on every single CFW. And the only reason it's not part of this one is based on the fact that he doesn't like the code and he's not willing to make it better. If he doesn't care enough to make a better code, then he's better off just using the code that's already available to him. If his basic reasoning is, "I don't play them," well great, but what about the people who do and still want to use this CFW? I shouldn't have to fork an entire project just to play a few games. Now that I think about it, that's pretty much what's already had to happen with this CFW.
This seems like an easy fix and I am not asking for me, I am asking for the people who clearly wanted it bad enough, that the patches became a major feature in every other CFW.

 

[Wolfvak]

No, what I am saying is, there's a demand for these patch. It's literally part of the main feature on every single CFW based on ReiNAND
Luma 3DS
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SaltFW
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mizuki
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And it's part of CakesFW, but you get the point.
There's an obvious enough demand for these patch that it's become part of the main advertised features on every single CFW. And the only reason it's not part of this one is based on the fact that he doesn't like the code and he's not willing to make it better. If he doesn't care enough to make a better code, then he's better off just using the code that's already available to him and if his basic reasoning is, "I don't play them," well great, but what about the people who do and still want to use this CFW? I shouldn't have to fork an entire project just to play a few games. Now that I think about it, that's pretty much what's already had to happen with this CFW.
This seems like an easy fix and I am not asking for me, I am asking for the people who clearly wanted it bad enough, that they became a major feature in every other CFW.

he definitely knows about this already, given that there's an issue or two on his GitHub page.

Again, it's Reisyukaku's problem whether he wants to integrate reboot patches from other CFW or not. If it causes ReiNAND to die or something, it's his problem. There's not much you can do except wait or integrate them yourself (it's up to you whether you make a PR or not really).

He's not forcing you to use ReiNAND; if you find not being able to play these titles uncomfortable, then just switch to something else temporarily.
Besides, just because one CFW has a certain feature doesn't mean all others have to follow suit.
In any case, you're not asking Aurora or mid-kid to add the patch format Rei uses in his 3ds_injector fork, because it's a feature that keeps ReiNAND F R E S H and U N I Q U E.

I'm not going to tell you which CFW to use, use the one you're most aquainted with. (which should be cakes tbh)

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Best response ever (not being sarcastic, I truly think this should be half the replies in gbatemp)

 

[Classicgamer]

No, what I am saying is, there's a demand for these patch. It's literally part of the main feature on every single CFW based on ReiNAND
Luma 3DS
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SaltFW
View attachment 49927
mizuki
View attachment 49930
And it's part of CakesFW, but you get the point.
There's an obvious enough demand for these patch that it's become part of the main advertised features on every single CFW. And the only reason it's not part of this one is based on the fact that he doesn't like the code and he's not willing to make it better. If he doesn't care enough to make a better code, then he's better off just using the code that's already available to him. If his basic reasoning is, "I don't play them," well great, but what about the people who do and still want to use this CFW? I shouldn't have to fork an entire project just to play a few games. Now that I think about it, that's pretty much what's already had to happen with this CFW.
This seems like an easy fix and I am not asking for me, I am asking for the people who clearly wanted it bad enough, that the patches became a major feature in every other CFW.

The way I see it is:

It's his personal CFW that he decided to share with the world. You are bound by his opinion and ideas and have input your thoughts and opinions on reboot patch.

It's over now. If he decides to add it then you'll be happy. If he doesn't decide then tough luck- this CFW isn't for you. There's no point in whining about it for several posts (other than providing entertainment for us N3DS users LoL)

It was always only N3DS CFW from the start.

 

[The Catboy]

he definitely knows about this already, given that there's an issue or two on his GitHub page.

Again, it's Reisyukaku's problem whether he wants to integrate reboot patches from other CFW or not. If it causes ReiNAND to die or something, it's his problem. There's not much you can do except wait or integrate them yourself (it's up to you whether you make a PR or not really).

He's not forcing you to use ReiNAND; if you find not being able to play these titles uncomfortable, then just switch to something else temporarily.
Besides, just because one CFW has a certain feature doesn't mean all others have to follow suit.
In any case, you're not asking Aurora or mid-kid to add the patch format Rei uses in his 3ds_injector fork, because it's a feature that keeps ReiNAND F R E S H and U N I Q U E.

I'm not going to tell you which CFW to use, use the one you're most aquainted with. (which should be cakes tbh)

I actually use 5 different CFW's that cycle through on a regular bases. Why? Because I can~~
The issue here, is his basic reason for not wanting to add them just seems bunk. He doesn't like the code but doesn't care enough to make something better. Ok, but what's stopping him from using the current code until he feels like making something better? He shouldn't leave entire feature missing just because of something so petty.
To be honest, there's no reason to ask them to use the same format for his 3ds_injector as their already works fine and so does his. They all work with GBA/DS(i) and all work pretty much the same. They are just different execution for the same problem, but still work. So no reason to change that. But what I am asking for does seem reasonable when you look at the competition.

The way I see it is:

It's his personal CFW that he decided to share with the world. You are bound by his opinion and ideas and have input your thoughts and opinions on reboot patch.

It's over now. If he decides to add it then you'll be happy. If he doesn't decide then tough luck- this CFW isn't for you. There's no point in whining about it for several posts (other than providing entertainment for us N3DS users LoL)

It was always only N3DS CFW from the start.

He made an open thread, therefore I am allowed to add my input. I see not having these features as a flaw in the CFW that has an easy fix, thus I see no reason to push for these patches.

 

[Drakia]

I am not going to lie, that's just an awful response to this situation. I mean yes, I have 5 other CFWs that I could choose from right now, but I would love to enjoy the CFW that most of them use as their base.
It's pretty obvious that there is a demand for these patches and just being like, "Not my problem, go somewhere else," is pretty shitty

Perhaps the reason there are a bunch of other CFW based on ReiNand is because of things like that? People wanted features that Rei wasn't willing to add, so they forked and made their own.
I don't see the point in hassling Rei to add something when it's already an option elsewhere, and what gets added to each CFW is up to the dev of that CFW.

 

[Supster131]

you're not asking Aurora or mid-kid to add the patch format Rei uses in his 3ds_injector fork,

His injector is broken, so of course others wouldn't implement it.

Spoiler

 

[The Catboy]

Perhaps the reason there are a bunch of other CFW based on ReiNand is because of things like that? People wanted features that Rei wasn't willing to add, so they forked and made their own.
I don't see the point in hassling Rei to add something when it's already an option elsewhere, and what gets added to each CFW is up to the dev of that CFW.

The thread is open to input and like I just said, I see this as a flaw with an easy fix. Simply being like, "I don't care," is pretty lazy attitude for a feature that people very clearly want.

 

[TuxSH]

@Supster131 This is the reason why.

 

[Drakia]

The thread is open to input and like I just said, I see this as a flaw with an easy fix. Simply being like, "I don't care," is pretty lazy attitude for a feature that people very clearly want.

And yet it's Rei's CFW, so Rei gets to make the choice of what to add and what not to. "I don't like the current implementations" is a perfectly valid reason not to add something, perhaps there's not enough hours in the day to research and implement a new method? Doesn't mean the old method is good enough that Rei should just accept it as it is (Not bashing any CFW, I have no idea why Rei thinks the current method is bad, more just demonstrating that "It's already done, and you're not writing a new way" isn't a good reason to add something).

 

[The Catboy]

And yet it's Rei's CFW, so Rei gets to make the choice of what to add and what not to. "I don't like the current implementations" is a perfectly valid reason not to add something, perhaps there's not enough hours in the day to research and implement a new method? Doesn't mean the old method is good enough that Rei should just accept it as it is (Not bashing any CFW, I have no idea why Rei thinks the current method is bad, more just demonstrating that "It's already done, and you're not writing a new way" isn't a good reason to add something).

I am not saying he should accept it as the only means of doing thing, but at least add it for now until something better is found. Once the feature is there, it's a win-win for everyone. He will have more time to research a better feature and we get to enjoy these games on his CFW.

BTW: In case anyone was wondering, my drunken self at some point, switched my main to Luma3DS, then fucked up my boot splashes. I didn't notice until today. This happens entirely too often. I corrected it.

 

[Wolfvak]

His injector is broken, so of course others wouldn't implement it.

Code looked fine last time I checked. If it doesn't fit within the 0x3000 byte limit that's another issue (one that should or should not be fixed, I'm not going to tell Reisyukaku what to do really)

 

[astronautlevel]

Code looked fine last time I checked. If it doesn't fit within the 0x3000 byte limit that's another issue (one that should or should not be fixed, I'm no one to tell Reisyukaku what to do really)

This is the relevant PR: https://github.com/Reisyukaku/loader/pull/2

 

[prototech]

I actually use 5 different CFW's that cycle through on a regular bases. Why? Because I can~~
The issue here, is his basic reason for not wanting to add them just seems bunk. He doesn't like the code but doesn't care enough to make something better. Ok, but what's stopping him from using the current code until he feels like making something better? He shouldn't leave entire feature missing just because of something so petty.
To be honest, there's no reason to ask them to use the same format for his 3ds_injector as their already works fine and so does his. They all work with GBA/DS(i) and all work pretty much the same. They are just different execution for the same problem, but still work. So no reason to change that. But what I am asking for does seem reasonable when you look at the competition.

He made an open thread, therefore I am allowed to add my input. I see not having these features as a flaw in the CFW that has an easy fix, thus I see no reason to push for these patches.

Bottom line: this is his project so he can do whatever he wants no matter how much you or anyone else wants it. This is also open source, so you have the freedom to change it.

There should be no other "but" or "you should" or anything of the sort.

 

[The Catboy]

Bottom line: this is his project so he can do whatever he wants no matter how much you or anyone else wants it. This is also open source, so you have the freedom to change it.

There should be no other "but" or "you should" or anything of the sort.

No, you guys are right. I actually have 4 other CFW's that all work just fine for me. But I am still going to say, when you leave an open thread, you should also be open to suggestions.

 

[prototech]

No, you guys are right. I actually have 4 other CFW's that all work just fine for me. But I am still going to say, when you leave an open thread, you should also be open to suggestions.

Sure. Suggestions are one thing, but when someone gives you an answer and you're response is that it's not good enough, I'm not sure what to tell you.