N4RU70 FR34K said:They're people starving and dying of things like cancer and you're worried about save some freaking dolphins, they don't even benefit us (except for Japan because they eat them) anyways I win
N4RU70 FR34K said:Because they're animals it's like how we kill cows, it's not that big of a deal also that's their job.Difference in culture still doesn't approve of the fact these animals are killed for fun/fake food. Dolphins are among the most intelligent species of animals on this planet (some humans are smarter, definitely not all of 'em though). Killing them is good for absolutely nothing. I think I'll go ahead and kill you, because you're just an animal, too.
Oh, andQUOTE(monkat @ Aug 30 2010, 07:23 PM) You are a fucking asshole.
N4RU70 FR34K said:...anyways I win
Go fuck yourself.
QUOTE(monkat @ Aug 30 2010, 07:23 PM) You are a fucking asshole.
QUOTE said:How would YOU feel if you were hunted/lured/tricked into a net only to be slaughtered as if you are nothing?
How would that make you feel? Oh, that's right, you wouldn't be feeling anything, cause you'd be DEAD.
Talaria said:1. A dolphin is not a human it does not think or feel in our human capacity
I personally never said they did think at the same level as a human - and they probably don't, especially in terms of abstract concepts, but they certainly do feel pain, fear, sadness, and loneliness.
2. Intelligence has nothing to do with how much pain it feels. Pain is purely to do with the nervous system, in order to remind/alert the being that they have been injured to aid survival.
So...because pain exists for an evolutionary purpose, things deserve to die? Wut?
3. 'Dolphins' are not endangered. Certain types of dolphin are.
....So? Only endangered animals deserve to live?
4. Humans are animals...wow...Captain Obvious to the rescue.
Uhm....K. Not sure what you were trying to accomplish with this
5. No, one answer is going to be correct, we are humans we all think/feel/have opinions different from each other.
This is a question of morality, and right vs wrong, as opposed to correct vs incorrect. Since the beginning of the concept, the human race has defined right as something that will preserve life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness (where do you think the constitution got it from ;D?), and something that does just that can only be wrong if the negative consequences would outweigh the life, liberty, and happiness of the previous group.
In my opinion as long as the dolphins are killed humanely and a healthy population of these types of dolphins are maintained they can go about their business.
Sure! Let's go and kill people, too, actually. We're far overpopulated and there has been nothing done. It would improve the economy quite a bit, same as how it happened after the black plague - less people to fill jobs, more capita per worker.
I didn't feel like breaking this apart, so my answers are bolded below your reasoning.
QUOTE(JetKun @ Aug 31 2010, 08:08 AM) Did you know that dolphins and humans are the only two animals that take pleasure from sex?
Regardles of whether it is right or wrong dolphins should not be killed and eaten due the high amount of mercury in their 'meat'.Talaria said:All comes down to your philosophy on the value of life. In my opinion people too often try and shove a human perspective on an animal. For example:
QUOTE said:How would YOU feel if you were hunted/lured/tricked into a net only to be slaughtered as if you are nothing?
How would that make you feel? Oh, that's right, you wouldn't be feeling anything, cause you'd be DEAD.
( Oh this isn't based on the quote above, just various comments in the thread)
1. A dolphin is not a human it does not think or feel in our human capacity
2. Intelligence has nothing to do with how much pain it feels. Pain is purely to do with the nervous system, in order to remind/alert the being that they have been injured to aid survival.
3. 'Dolphins' are not endangered. Certain types of dolphin are.
4. Humans are animals...wow...Captain Obvious to the rescue.
5. No one answer is going to be correct, we are humans we all think/feel/have opinions different from each other.
In my opinion as long as the dolphins are killed humanely and a healthy population of these types of dolphins are maintained they can go about their business.
Could've sworn I read something years ago about pigs having 30-minute orgasms or something like that.JetKun said:Did you know that dolphins and humans are the only two animals that take pleasure from sex?
My cat died of cancer too but dolphins aren't that great anyways so yeah, it's not like you guys can change my opinion because I usually never do.injected11 said:N4RU70 FR34K said:They're people starving and dying of things like cancer and you're worried about save some freaking dolphins, they don't even benefit us (except for Japan because they eat them) anyways I win
Animals die of cancer as well. My first dog did.
The majority of people on Earth don't benefit anyone. In fact, I'd say most of humanity is a detriment to our progress as a species.
You don't benefit me. Scuse me while I grab my harpoon and shove it into your throat.
...last but not least...
QUOTE(monkat @ Aug 30 2010, 07:23 PM) You are a fucking asshole.
monkat said:In my opinion as long as the dolphins are killed humanely and a healthy population of these types of dolphins are maintained they can go about their business.
Sure! Let's go and kill people, too, actually. We're far overpopulated and there has been nothing done. It would improve the economy quite a bit, same as how it happened after the black plague - less people to fill jobs, more capita per worker.
That is not a decent argument at all. If these mass murders continue, all dolphin species will become endangered (and perhaps even extinct). Which is why we want it to stop.Talaria said:'Dolphins' are not endangered. Certain types of dolphin are.
We don't kill people because we aren't retarded, dolphins are freaking animals who cares if they die or live.phoenixgoddess27 said:monkat said:In my opinion as long as the dolphins are killed humanely and a healthy population of these types of dolphins are maintained they can go about their business.
Sure! Let's go and kill people, too, actually. We're far overpopulated and there has been nothing done. It would improve the economy quite a bit, same as how it happened after the black plague - less people to fill jobs, more capita per worker.
I couldn't agree more. Since over 20,000 get killed a year, why don't we kill 20,000 people a year? That way we can get the economy under control.
Why didn't I think of this before!
Let's start with the idiots, they won't put up much of a fight cause they've got a case of The Stupid.
(Your answer actually makes sense.)
N4RU70 FR34K said:We don't kill people because we aren't retarded, dolphins are freaking animals who cares if they die or live.
EDIT : Hi Ellie
N4RU70 FR34K said:We don't kill people because we aren't retarded, dolphins are freaking animals who cares if they die or live.
EDIT : Hi Ellie
Overlord Nadrian said:We care, but it's just thatmonkat said:You are a fucking asshole.
Well I don't really care for retarded people but they're still people.monkat said:N4RU70 FR34K said:We don't kill people because we aren't retarded, dolphins are freaking animals who cares if they die or live.
EDIT : Hi Ellie
...There are quite a few humans who are retarded. Even more are actually just stupid out of will power (or lack thereof)*cough cough*.
I care if they live or die. Their families care if they live or die. Their predators care, their prey cares, almost everyone in this thread cares.
N4RU70 FR34K said:Well I don't really care for retarded people but they're still people.
I have to agree.phoenixgoddess27 said:N4RU70 FR34K said:Well I don't really care for retarded people but they're still people.
And we don't really care about you.
But we're still people.