Hacking Question Simulate docked mode while in portable mode

[linkinworm]

actually if you could somehow get a 1080p signal to supersample down to the 720 then it would benefit slightly*** but a half res super sample isn't ideal , you want 4x SS to really get any use from that. Most games are running native around 900p anyway, and SS that to 720p wouldn't exactly do much of anything at all. very few actually have a native 1080p output.

 

[whateverg1012]

It'd be cool if someone got this to work, Xenoblade 2 in portable mode is garbage.

 

[Taffy]

A great way to turn the switch into a hotplate, according to a lot of the posts here.

Let's make eggs and bacon on the go, yeah?


Hand-burning aside, this would be interesting.

If you were to find a way to send the signals and crap the dock normally feeds to the switch, you could just have a device simmilar to the raspberry pi rcm things that emulates a dock. But then you'd have to get the console to not switch displays, accept input from joycons that are on the rails, etc.


my idea here is complicated and probably too much work.

If we could get away with something software-wise, that would be great.


...But the point of docked mode is to play on a bigger screen with better speakers and with your friends so you don't have to crowd around a brick-sized rectangle.

 

[The Real Jdbye]

The problem is the Switch bricks if it's getting incorrect power. I doubt you can find a 15v battery bank that gives exactly 2.6A

The Switch won't draw more than 2A anyway, and rarely even draws that much. It's not a problem with the amount of power since it'll only draw what it needs.

 

[Lyzing]

Enjoy getting your hands burned

Yes when ever I take the switch out of the dock after a 8h play session it's so damn hot I can't touch it... /irony off the switch is as cool as always

 

[vaanen]

Higher resolutions? What do you want? 1080p on a 720p tablet screen?

actually, that is called dowsncaling (or supersampling but its slightly different even if very close) and pc games already use that as anti aliasing. it looks much better than native resolution as it smoothes all the jaggies while making everything look higher res. nvidia even uses this as a selling point with DSR (basically downscaling with an adjustable blur filter), even though amd cards can aa very similar thing (virtual super resolution)

so yeah, thats exactly what we want

 

[uyjulian]

Yes when ever I take the switch out of the dock after a 8h play session it's so damn hot I can't touch it... /irony off the switch is as cool as always

You taking it out on the HOME Menu? Maybe that's why it's cool, because it's barely doing anything.

Now, when you're playing Mario Odyssey docked, now feel the Switch... It's warm on the top, isn't it? And I can hear the fans too!

Now imagine exposing your hands to the middle of the Switch for a while...

 

[vaanen]

You taking it out on the HOME Menu? Maybe that's why it's cool, because it's barely doing anything.

Now, when you're playing Mario Odyssey docked, now feel the Switch... It's warm on the top, isn't it? And I can hear the fans too!

Now imagine exposing your hands to the middle of the Switch for a while...

The switch never exceeds 60° directly on the components and shutsdown around 65° (again, on the components themselves, not the case). this is much lower than most laptop or even high end phone, yet people use them. heck, my nexus 6p even got much hotter than that to the point i could 100% feel it and you dont even touch the warming parts of the switch since you take it from the joycons.

 

[SjorsMaster]

Since we have homebrew now shouldn't it be possible to let the switch think we're in docked mode even if we need to plug the switch to an outlet it's fine by me, I just want those higher resolutions in some games while my TV is free for netflix

I dont see the point, lets just say that if you managed to put it in that mode, the tablet screen wouldn't show anything. Battery would drain faster, and lets just say that if you did manage to get the gamepad screen to work, there's no point in doing it, as the screen is only 720p. So no higher resolutions.

 

[Rune]

This would probably deplede battery life very quick and fry your Switch at the same time.

Does the Switch fry itself when it's sitting in the dock? No.

The Switch get´s hotter than what's comfortable to hold in your hands while you're playing a decently intensive game. The Fan Noise should get pretty loud as well, trying to cool the system.

Can you hear the fan noise when it's sitting in the dock? No.

Enjoy getting your hands burned

Do your hands get burnt when you take the Switch out of the dock? No.

If it's plugged into another power source, then totally, then it has the power required to run its components at full speed for longer. But "in portable mode" gives the air that OP wants to be able to play Xenoblade Chronicles 2 at docked performance while not plugged into anything.

He did say he'd use a power source as his intention is to free up the TV for Netflix.

The switch display is only 720p, And I don't think that 1080p downscaled to 720 will look very good, But if it was possible just to get the performance benefits of the higher 'docked' frequency... yeah that would be nice - and should be possible soon enough.

Downscaling between those resolutions does only give you a very small improvement, but one other benefit is that potential visual improvements from docked mode could also carry over to handheld mode. Things such as increased draw distance, maybe improved textures, general visual effects, etc.

Try and have an open mind, people.

 

[Lyzing]

Does the Switch fry itself when it's sitting in the dock? No.

Can you hear the fan noise when it's sitting in the dock? No.

Do your hands get burnt when you take the Switch out of the dock? No.

He did say he'd use a power source as his intention is to free up the TV for Netflix.

Downscaling between those resolutions does only give you a very small improvement, but one other benefit is that potential visual improvements from docked mode could also carry over to handheld mode. Things such as increased draw distance, maybe improved textures, general visual effects, etc.

Try and have an open mind, people.

Exactly finally someone who understand it

 

[Reploid]

What's exactly wrong with X2 in portable mode? Never really tried it.

 

[Lyzing]

What's exactly wrong with X2 in portable mode? Never really tried it.

It looks garbage, in some situation you get close to 360p, it's a dynamic resolution.
XCX had far better graphics and wii u is a console from 2012, playing games at 360-540p while the other consoles are near 4k is sad, we can't even get 1080p in most of the games besides we don't even get new games for a long time now the last one was 1st december 2017?

 

[Deleted User]

Some games will look great undocked if we can trick the system into thinking it's docked. Xenoblade Chronicles as previously mentioned is one example; Pokken Tournament runs at 720p while docked so it should look great, the two Bayonetta games will benefit from an improved framerate. As for the heating problem, there's a mod linked below which will help a lot. Some have mentioned this will drain the battery super fast so you'll need either a spare battery or have the system plugged in while playing.

https://gbatemp.net/threads/liquid-metal-cooling-nintendo-switch.497251/

 

[bi388]

It looks garbage, in some situation you get close to 360p, it's a dynamic resolution.
XCX had far better graphics and wii u is a console from 2012, playing games at 360-540p while the other consoles are near 4k is sad, we can't even get 1080p in most of the games besides we don't even get new games for a long time now the last

Keep in mind this is a handheld system that you're comparing to home consoles. As for your question, yes it's probably possible but sounds like it could be pretty dangerous to the system. It's bottlenecked for a reason. And to people saying "why would you want to play a 1080p game on a 720p screen" you know that's a thing right? If your graphics processor can accurately downscale, it will end up looking better than running it at native. My monitor is 1080p but I can see a big visual increase downscaling from 4k. But the switch would need to be capable of doing this on its handheld display, and I have no idea if it is.

 

[Rune]

Keep in mind this is a handheld system that you're comparing to home consoles. As for your question, yes it's probably possible but sounds like it could be pretty dangerous to the system. It's bottlenecked for a reason. And to people saying "why would you want to play a 1080p game on a 720p screen" you know that's a thing right? If your graphics processor can accurately downscale, it will end up looking better than running it at native. My monitor is 1080p but I can see a big visual increase downscaling from 4k. But the switch would need to be capable of doing this on its handheld display, and I have no idea if it is.

But the Switch can already do 1080p whilst in the dock and connected to a power supply. Why would it then not be able to do the same in handheld mode plus the same power supply? The dock doesnt add any extra processing power, or even any extra cooling.

 

[bi388]

But the Switch can already do 1080p whilst in the dock and connected to a power supply. Why would it then not be able to do the same in handheld mode plus the same power supply? The dock doesnt add any extra processing power, or even any extra cooling.

Hm I guess you're right, it would run out of charge very quickly probably though and could get hot. Honestly the switch isn't too much weaker than the xbone and ps4, it runs many of its high end games at 900 30, 720 60 or 900 60. The ps4 occationally gets 1080 60 in select high end games, usually remasters, but most are similar to the switch.

 

[Rune]

Hm I guess you're right, it would run out of charge very quickly probably though and could get hot. Honestly the switch isn't too much weaker than the xbone and ps4, it runs many of its high end games at 900 30, 720 60 or 900 60. The ps4 occationally gets 1080 60 in select high end games, usually remasters, but most are similar to the switch.

I meant (as the OP also said) playing in handheld mode but still plugged into the power supply at the same time. That instance is no different to when you use the dock.

 

[Reploid]

It looks garbage, in some situation you get close to 360p, it's a dynamic resolution.
XCX had far better graphics and wii u is a console from 2012, playing games at 360-540p while the other consoles are near 4k is sad, we can't even get 1080p in most of the games besides we don't even get new games for a long time now the last

Nothing new for nintendo

 

[GizmoTheGreen]

Doesn't it already do this? I played most of botw hooked up to power but in portable since I didn't have a TV screen. And I swear it always looked etter when hooked in as opposed to when I pulled the cable to keep playing at the dinnertable and such.