Romney vs. Obama

[LightyKD]

'Magic: The Gathering' binder full of women

LMFAO , I had a great giggle reading some of these! I wish these were done in Pokemon TCG style. I'm used to that game and would actually print the cards out so that my Wife and I could play!

 

[LightyKD]

It's CRUNCH TIME people! What are your predictions now that we are a little over a week away from Election Day?!

 

[KingVamp]

It's CRUNCH TIME people! What are your predictions now that we are a little over a week away from Election Day?!

Honesty, I think Obama going to win despite if I want him to or not. (I do.)

 

[LightyKD]

Honesty, I think Obama going to win despite if I want him to or not. (I do.)

Sadly I can't be as confident. As much as I want Obama to win (and trust me really do. I got up at 5am last Thursday to see the man @ roughly noon ish), the polls are flip flopping like crazy and like I said earlier, stupid people en-mass can do crazy things.

Here's a nice little shot from last Thursday!

 

[Gahars]

Nate Silver, over at 538, has been keeping it steady with his number crunching analysis of the polls.

Right now, Obama has a 72.9% chance of winning the election. There's still the 27.1% chance that Romney could win, and the state of the race can still change dramatically over the course of the week, so anybody rooting for the President shouldn't take this as an excuse for complacency.

 

[KingVamp]

Sadly I can't be as confident. As much as I want Obama to win (and trust me really do. I got up at 5am last Thursday to see the man @ roughly noon ish), the polls are flip flopping like crazy and like I said earlier, stupid people en-mass cam do crazy things.

Here's a nice little shot from last Thursday!

To be clear, you seem him in person! Did you had a chance or try to speak with him?


If he can get Florida, chances would be great then.

 

[LightyKD]

To be clear, you seem him in person! Did you had a chance or try to speak with him?


If he can get Florida, chances would be great then.

Last Thursday was the second time my Wife and I saw him in person. Back in September we also got the chance to see the Fist Lady (Michelle) speak. Sadly we were not able to have a conversation with either the President or his Wife. Either way it was a lot of fun!

 

[Lemmy Koopa]

I've passed through 2 neighborhoods in Ohio scattered with Romney signs. No offense, but it really made my stomach hurt.

 

[GammaGeorgeX]

I believe that the votes are just modified through governmental conspiracies. But it doesn't mean I'm a crazy just because I think that.

 

[Judas18]

I really hope Romney doesn't win. He seems crazy enough to start World War 3. That guy scares me.

 

[Gahars]

I believe that the votes are just modified through governmental conspiracies. But it doesn't mean I'm a crazy just because I think that.

Do you have evidence to back up that assertion? Do you have proof of these conspiracies?

Or is it just a "hunch"?

 

[GammaGeorgeX]

Do you have evidence to back up that assertion? Do you have proof of these conspiracies?

Or is it just a "hunch"?

Oh, of course I don't think it for a fact, but It's a reasonable thought. Perhaps the debates decide most of it, so whoever wins would at least be who looks like someone who would win, but you have of course a point.

 

[suppow]

coke vs pepsi

 

[Gahars]

Oh, of course I don't think it for a fact, but It's a reasonable thought. Perhaps the debates decide most of it, so whoever wins would at least be who looks like someone who would win, but you have of course a point.

The government is far less capable of orchestrating the covert rigging of elections than you might think. To paraphrase Penn Jillette, we're talking about the same government that couldn't cover up a hotel break in. If they couldn't manage that, how would they pull off a massive operation like this AND manage to keep it a secret?

Proposing stuff like this without anything to support it doesn't necessarily make you crazy, but it certainly doesn't make you look credible.

coke vs pepsi

That's not fair - Mitt can't drink either!

 

[GammaGeorgeX]

Well, no point in arguing, so if I were to choose one, it would be Obama, mainly because Romney is a total ass for so many reasons that random people just remember the fact that he is a horrible politic xd.

But of course I know WHY he's bad personally.

 

[suppow]

That's not fair - Mitt can't drink either!

then snort maybe?

The government is far less capable of orchestrating the covert rigging of elections than you might think. To paraphrase Penn Jillette, we're talking about the same government that couldn't cover up a hotel break in. If they couldn't manage that, how would they pull off a massive operation like this AND manage to keep it a secret?

Proposing stuff like this without anything to support it doesn't necessarily make you crazy, but it certainly doesn't make you look credible.

you seriously think they couldnt do that? not that they'd need to.
they've been doing that in south america and other places for ages, and they've got far less resources than these people do.
i mean, come on, i know this is gbatemp and not abovetopsecret, but take a look a (at least) recent world history,
they've got far more than enough capabilities of doing that, remember the cold war? (though who said it was over? =P)

 

[Gahars]

you seriously think they couldnt do that? not that they'd need to.
they've been doing that in south america and other places for ages, and they've got far less resources than these people do.
i mean, come on, i know this is gbatemp and not abovetopsecret, but take a look a (at least) recent world history,
they've got far more than enough capabilities of doing that, remember the cold war? (though who said it was over? =P)

The government is far less capable of orchestrating the covert rigging of elections than you might think.

I think you overlooked the key word there.

Obviously, election rigging happens in some countries. However, these nations make little attempts to hide the fact that their elections are shams, that their presses are not free and open, etc. etc. They're basically DINOS - Democracies In Name Only... and sometimes, they don't even bother with the name. Plus, their poverty actually aids them - power and wealth is concentrated in the ruling body absolutely, leaving the citizens with little power to resist or seek reform.

Hiding such a thing, though? Especially in the United States? So you're telling me the government is completely able to rig the ballots while going through all the motions of a campaign (which doesn't come cheap, I might add) and keeping the press completely in the dark at the same time? Not only that, the government is also making sure that absolutely no one involved in this massive operation at any level says a word?

Yes, your honor, I'd like to call Bull and Shit to the stand.

Come on, just think this through. If there's rigging really going on here... why would incumbents lose? Why throw away so much money on campaigns that don't even mean anything? Does this mean that the government is capable of pulling off an operation of this magnitude without a hitch, but just can't hide a break in or a BJ from the intern?

Face it, Occam's Razor just cuts this to shreds.

 

[suppow]

i really dont wanna turn this into a conspiracy thread, specially in gbatemp =/

I think you overlooked the key word there.

no, i didnt, i did mean covert. actually if you're gonna fake elections without hiding it, just make it a coup.
actually, it could even be said that the us did a cover coup. but i'm really not gonna go there

Obviously, election rigging happens in some countries.

true

However, these nations make little attempts to hide the fact that their elections are shams, that their presses are not free and open, etc. etc.

note true, not always, not most times. true sometimes, like china.

They're basically DINOS - Democracies In Name Only... and sometimes, they don't even bother with the name.

again, note always, and the same could be said about the us, but like you said above, the difference between that and china, is one trying to cover it up and the other not even bothering.

Plus, their poverty actually aids them - power and wealth is concentrated in the ruling body absolutely, leaving the citizens with little power to resist or seek reform.

that's pretty biased, i'm sure you could better than that.

Hiding such a thing, though? Especially in the United States? So you're telling me the government is completely able to rig the ballots while going through all the motions of a campaign (which doesn't come cheap, I might add) and keeping the press completely in the dark at the same time? Not only that, the government is also making sure that absolutely no one involved in this massive operation at any level says a word?

yes, yes, yes. seriously, in all honesty, are you questioning the ability of covering things up in the states? and wasting money in a place like the sates?
come on, anyone should be able to see that. i've studied as a history major, so from my point of you, i could tell you, yes. but you dont have to even do that to be able to see those things.

occam's razor is usually a fallacy. =/

again, i'm not necessarily saying it is actually happening, i'll just say that it is possible for the sake of argument.
i'm not even gonna go into saying that most media is collectively owned, or bring up more possibilities,
but i'll maintain that if they wanted whoever was in power in the sates, would have the capabilities to do that.

i'll just spare the other people in gbatemp this whole discussion.
so if you ask me if i think it's possible, i answer yes, i think it is.

but like i said, coke vs pepsi

 

[Sterling]

I'm hitting Gary Johnson in the polls myself. I wish more people didn't have the mentality of "Oh, I agree with this guy the most, but I won't vote for him because he doesn't have a chance." That's why we keep getting the idiots in office. People have their heads so far up their asses sometimes that they don't even consider the 3rd choice. If more people decided to vote for the choice the agree with most then that 3rd choice might actually matter.

My parents are prime examples. They vote strictly Republican just to cockblock the other party without ever considering the ideas of merit that the other party has, or because that independent choice they agree with the most doesn't have a chance. It's fucking dumb.

 

[KingVamp]

That's not fair - Mitt can't drink either!

*neither?

I heard he said he can drink both. He must have flip flop again. smh

I'm hitting Gary Johnson in the polls myself. I wish more people didn't have the mentality of "Oh, I agree with this guy the most, but I won't vote for him because he doesn't have a chance." That's why we keep getting the idiots in office. People have their heads so far up their asses sometimes that they don't even consider the 3rd choice. If more people decided to vote for the choice the agree with most then that 3rd choice might actually matter.

Well at this point it's pretty much true. All the people who are voting late for him is not really going to
do much other then risk the worst of all candidates making a come back because you are taking
votes from Obama.

It like saying, I'm voting for a 3rd party in the last second because it's there and risk the one you didn't
like most to possibly win.

Plus iirc, he wants to get rid of most if not all government support, which is pretty crazy because
some people need that help. When I mean support, I mean like the welfare stuff.


That said, more choices the merrier.

My parents are prime examples. They vote strictly Republican just to cockblock the other party without ever considering the ideas of merit that the other party has

Agree.

because that independent choice they agree with the most doesn't have a chance. It's fucking dumb.

I think people waited to long due to time and votes already cast to worry about a 3rd party.