no, that would be insane tho. im running luma. I have still to get linux on it. i nned a scrnshot of the dir tree
I get a staticy screen when I run the payload. The payload is in the luma3ds payloads folder. Any idea on what's going on?
Wat? You run LXDE/Debian on 756 bytes? Impossible. Running LXDE or even XFCE4 on my tablet with Linux Deploy took about 786MBs of RAM, not 756 bytes. But even still, that's not enough to do much comfortably. Not to mention that for X to work, unless you are using a native framebuffer (Unlikely due to the state of mobile GPUs, unless you have a Tegra, PowerVR or Freedreno-supported GPU), you still have Android's overhead and the X Server above that (For argument's sake, we'll include the X server in that memory estimate above, but not Android [though technically we should, since in this case, Android is hosting the Linux environment in a container] despite the fact that the X server is running under Android and not the chroot)
But then you'll have apps like Firefox and Chrome which will allocate memory for their use, along with any background processes. One reason your Android chroot may be so small (not sure what you run in it so I can't entirely debunk you) is because you are ignoring background processes (because only certain services are needed, and init isn't used by default in a chroot) and because you aren't using the distribution's kernel.
Now if you're using linux deploy for servers, wait, no, none of those will fit in 756 bytes of RAM. Anyway, that's enough of that, now to actually answer your questions.
The 3DS has 1GB of RAM hence my above rant. The Linux kernel uses the ARM9 Kernel-mode to boot, so the firmware is unloaded for Linux to start (no SD access that way) and is actually answered in a previous topic here on these forums: https://gbatemp.net/threads/q-decrypt9-or-similar-as-cia.399418/ (Since both Linux and Decrypt9 are Brahma payloads, this is relevant)
I cannot speak for what the sdcard's tree should look like or what the resource usage is for X on the 3DS since I haven't actually compiled this project with X, only messed with weston/wayland (which is better anyway, you want X, build a copy with XWayland built in and use that as your X Server, it's still lighter than Xorg itself)
As for GLX Gears, it's an OpenGL test application that simply shows a small window with gears moving and spinning around. To answer the person asking if it would work: possibly, the fact that Wayland starts suggests some form of GLX support exists (even if it's software rasterizing), you wouldn't be able to run glxgears without XWayland though since GLXGears/Insert Your X11 Application Here doesn't speak Wayland.
pcs3rd: I don't mean this post to sound as inflammatory as it reads, my apologies if it comes off that way, I'm trying to be informative but I tend to be slightly abrasive while doing so.
no, look at my signature, anything linux in my signature is usually having those. all except linux deploy... n a kindle fire 2012 tate.ive ran debian on about 512 meg. runs x. not good for much more than a ip cam or basic web server or music player. also, i do have init enabled
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Ok, Like I said, didn't mean for it to seem inflammatory, your number is a little more reasonable than the previous 765B so I'm going to go ahead and assume it was a typo and you meant megabytes instead of bytes
And ya, exactly, not good for much more than simple applications, though with Wayland and XWayland, it may be possible to fit a little extra in there with the resources saved from not running Xorg as the main display server (I'm not sure of the relative savings between XWayland and Xorg, but I'm sure there has to be some at least.)But ya, ARM9 execution is the reason there isn't a CIA. I'm not even sure it is possible to gain ARM9 execution from a CIA (perhaps someone more enlightened can shed some light on that, as I'm just coming back to the scene after a very long hiatus after the NDS scene, so I'm not entirely up to date, been trying to get myself up to speed with 3DBrew)
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my mistake, good luck running anything past dos on bytes... Do you have it installed on a sdcard?Ok, Like I said, didn't mean for it to seem inflammatory, your number is a little more reasonable than the previous 765B so I'm going to go ahead and assume it was a typo and you meant megabytes instead of bytes
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I currently do not have it installed. I played with it a while back (like about 4 months ago) but didn't actually compile an image myself, so it was rather useless for me since I don't have time or knowledge to mess around with the kernel/loader's internals. (Can compile a kernel, but I'm not great at kernel-mode code, so I don't have enough knowledge to assist with bugs to the project)
well, currently working on getting a banana pro running. Ima go to bed soon
Would be nice if it did. Old 3DS has 128 MB; New 3DS has 256 MB.
Wayland would be better on 3DS than X11, though even with Wayland, applications like Firefox would have difficulty fitting into 256 MB.
I'm a total noob here when I ask this, but anyway, how would I go about running the Linux BIN file?
do you have cfw?
if so and if its luma do this
1) Copy the linux folder to the root of the SD card
2) Copy 'a9lh_linux_loader.bin' to your a9lh payloads folder which is "luma" folder in sd card and then payload
3) Run start a9lh_linux_loader.bin by pressing start before your 3ds starts and select a9lh_linux_loader
its in the 1st post really but mine is for luma specific
Say.
Given the official deprecation of A9LH and .bin payloads now that SigHax is out, any chance we could get a .firm build of this?
Given the official deprecation of A9LH and .bin payloads now that SigHax is out, any chance we could get a .firm build of this?
Yup, I've just created a FIRM Linux Loader (https://github.com/xerpi/firm_linux_loader) and updated the download in the first page.
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Nice, cool stuff, I'll be using that.
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@xerpi The link to the repo in the OP is broken, it says firm_linux_loader, but it still points to a9lh_linux_loader.
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