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  1. Gateway

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  2. Supercard

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  3. The user, not using an open sorce CFW

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  1. Rob Blou

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    think about this ... you buy something from someone, that someone stole the item from someone else .. should the original owner track you down and beat you up? Fuck no, he should go after the guy who stole it from him and sold it to you. Gateway are fucking assholes for doing this .. I'm a gateway user and I don't own a DSTWO+ but I think this is total BS.
     
  2. DayVeeBoi

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    LOL, FanBoi
     
  3. ken28

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    While I am on gw site for protecting their property I have to ask one thing. If they can detected a clone why not just refusing to boot.
     
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  4. DayVeeBoi

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    No definitely, I want you to do this. I want to chip in and get you a card so you can. I said that yesterday. If I had a hardmodded 3ds I would be on it already I would have a camera setup and rolling for it. I have brand new N3ds, it wont be getting a hardmod before its necessary, but at this point I am almost willing to just send you a card to play with

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    Thats the million dollar question bro. Then you would just turn around and buy a gateway card, wouldnt you?
     
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  5. Xenon Hacks

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    To kill competition completely and ruin their reputation. The DSTWO+ Supercard will now be known as the card that will brick your 3DS.
     
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  6. DayVeeBoi

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    Why, when all they have to do is go here and start a rumour, and you will do it for them?

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    Who knows where to get a supercard cheapest and where theyre in stock? The place I got mine from is sold out.
     
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  7. Wekker

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    Their way:
    1. Brick a user's console.
    2. That user will hate other flashcarts.
    3. That user will buy a new console.
    4. That user will buy a flashcart from this company.
    5. Profit!

    Or

    Your way:
    1. Reboot user's console all the time.
    2. That user will hate other flashcarts.
    3. That user will buy a flashcart from this company.
    4. Profit!
     
  8. Powermad80

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    I mean...

    What's that one famous quote? Better for people to think you're an idiot than for you to open your mouth and remove all doubt?
     
  9. DayVeeBoi

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    But the one flaw in this logic is that a lot of the users are kids and its their parents buying consoles and flashcards and the chances of a kids parent buying them ANOTHER console AND flashcard are like, about zero.

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    Straight from the horses mouth.
     
  10. Armadillo

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    GW already went with lesser methods.

    First just basic encryption/obfuscation. Making the red card required, randomly deleting saves (this one may have just been clone incompetence). Nothing happened. Most clone users were happy to wait.

    The r4i/orange/3dslink users just carried on shitting up the forums with what was essentially "lol, my clone has the same features". The brick code however, killed the clones, done. Never to be updated again. It wouldn't seem that the incident damaged Gateway either.

    There was a few "I won't support them" but funny enough, when Gateway was the only way to play 7.X titles, lots of people cracked and bought for smash bros. Same will happen with emunand >9.5 on n3ds (you can be sure Gateway will be first).

    So really (assuming the current reports are correct), why would you not go with the same succesful tactic again?
     
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  11. DayVeeBoi

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    Thats logic thats hard to argue. Thats all I am looking for here.

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    For all the people here that think that I am arguing FOR SuperCard, I am not. I am arguing against Nonsense, speculation and Pitchfork and torchlight Witch-Hunts. Anyone who has a logical and polite response that is relevant, I just reply in kind. Im just putting out a common sense position where there isnt one. Im not saying that Gateway isnt Bricking Supercard users. Maybe they are, but what passes for proof or even, eveidence here is seriously lacking,.
     
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  12. hundshamer

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    I haven't had a chance to get the firmware before they took the link down. I plan on testing, but life with 3 kids gets a bit hectic. I will try and find a cached copy.
     
  13. Armadillo

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    I agree there is a lack of proof (so far). I think people are quick to believe with a lack of proof for a couple of reasons.

    1) This is much how it started before. A few reports of r4i being bricked, before it picked up steam and tons of bricks appeared.
    2) Gateway pretty much implied it in thier release.
    3) A ton of people have an axe to grind against Gateway. Even when it first released and was one game per microsd, people still had issues just because "gateway should release for free". Any excuse to take a dig at Gateway gets some people riled up :D.
     
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  14. Olmectron

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    Let's just everyone wait for December 25th and the massive number of reports that will be posted by then.

    Everyone just wrapped their DSTwo+ as a christmas present. That's the reason for not many reports so far.

    Those who have already opened and used their card are surely aware of the last time Gateway started bricking everyone and have proceeded cautiously. Only a little number wasn't aware, it seems.
     
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  15. DayVeeBoi

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    I have a good copy of it. Do you mean 1.04? I'm not gonna post it publicly just in case but if you want I will pm you a mega link
     
  16. hundshamer

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    Ha! and I just saw your post at the SC forum.
     
  17. DayVeeBoi

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    I have had one since the day it was available (in North America anyways). I haven't had any serious issues with it, except for the lack of any documentation and I was kinda pissed when I got it and found out they were HighJacking gateway. I didn't know that in advance. I'm not sure if it was public knowledge, but I didn't know.
     
  18. Olmectron

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    They mentioned "GW" emulation or simulation (I don't remember) when the card was first announced, it all just seemed off.
     
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  19. DayVeeBoi

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    i think I do recall maybe seeing "simulation" somewhere in their propaganda but I also knew that SuperCard is a pretty respected name as far as FlashCarts go, and I mean (in this forum even) people were all about it. I remember a thread every other day about the Supercard awesomeness lol. It makes me laugh because the people that were posting that they wished they didnt buy Gateway the week before the New SuperCard was announced, those are probably the same people throwing hate and personal attacks around now.
     
  20. gamesquest1

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    yeah before this supercard were well respected for one reason, they made their own shit that was different, thats why this cloning crap came as such a shock to many, its like some famous artist getting caught out tracing their latest work from some other artist......basically people were expecting a brand new masterpiece and all they got was a photocopy of someone elses work
     
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