PS3 Jailbreak scene is confirmed dead for future

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  1. UnitGGChamp
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    Taken from another post and before I paste I just want to say with Jailbreak you can get a large amount of games..but 75% of them suck and all the new hot games are releasing with the update..

    It seems like those expecting a custom firmware to hack the PS3 can give up now as Sony has pretty much nullified the PSJailbreak exploit. Even though people like to call it a PS3 hack it was in essence a glitch.

    I call it a glitch because “hackers” didn’t circumvent the core PS3 security measures which Geohot was working on before he gave up. These alleged hackers pretty much took a jig key, probably from someone that works in technical support for Sony in China, and used it to create the PSJailbreak.

    Tech support centers use this special jig key to turn any PS3 sent in for repair to enter what’s called a debug mode. Once in debug mode the PS3 can playback unsigned code. As you can see all of hooks have been put in place by Sony for unsigned code to be played on the PS3 deliberately for troubleshooting.

    The only thing that is even close to a hack is the fact that the PSJailbreak’s version of the jig key is deployed via a heap overflow using the USB ports. This isn’t all that impressive as overloading the system with a USB (switch on/off) is an old trick. It just happens that these hackers had a legitimate jig key to inject as the payload.

    Over the course of two months Sony quietly combated the exploit in two ways – from a legal and technical standpoint. Sony was able to get the PSJailbreak banned in pretty much most of the major countries preventing sales of the exploit in mass quantities.

    As reported by Digital Foundry, Sony released firmware 3.42 which pretty much nullified the ability to run unsigned code on the PS3, including the PSJailbreak. In firmware 3.50, Sony introduced a USB “white list” which pretty much blocked out any non-storage based USB devices, including the modified PSJailbreak USB drive.

    Also, new games such as Medal of Honor are using a new encryption that can only be decrypted with a new key unknown to the public. Basically, even the PS3 doesn’t have the key to unlock the game unless you have firmware 3.50.

    In order to really hack the PS3 like the PSP, hackers must get through the Hypervisor, which is the lowest level of security on the hardware. Believe it or not the Hypervisor security layer runs on the PPE (core processor) and uses one the reserved SPE (SPU). This SPE is isolated in a way so that even the main core PPE can’t even access it.

    The single SPE uses the hardware root key to decrypt the encryption code while being tied to a random ID generator. This is probably one of the most complex security systems ever invented utilizing one of the Cell SPUs to handle decryption in isolation mode.

    Sony has nullified the PS3 exploit rather efficiently and swiftly without making a major scene. It almost seems like Sony had a contingency handbook for this exact scenario. I suppose, the engineers at Sony figured this many happen eventually as the human element is always an unknown factor.

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    UPDATE:Hermes left the scene
     


  2. Cloak519

    Cloak519 GBAtemp Advanced Fan

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    Kind of unfortunate, I guess. Let's hope it's not this way with the 3DS.
    I was surprised that something like this was ever found in all honesty. I thought the PS3 was bulletproof.
     
  3. DeltaBurnt

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    We're making progress with the usb custom firmware loader, etc.

    I think this thing is far from over.
     
  4. Gobnoblin

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    I tend to believe this is far from over aswell..... with the first breakthrough in ages it has fired up everyones motivation again and soo much has already come about with the little we have learnt is possible so far... it seems inevitable that with this level reached it is only a matter of time before the next level happens....
     
  5. Christopher8827

    Christopher8827 GBAtemp Regular

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    If Sony treats their PS3 like a bank security system, it will never be fully hacked.
     
  6. Rydian

    Rydian Resident Furvert™

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    Any reputable source on it being whitelist-based (instead of blacklist-based)?



    That article's wrong.
     
  7. Schizoanalysis

    Schizoanalysis From somewhere inside the rabbit hole...

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    Lies.

    Sony PR.


    Yeah, you know, don't. And if you indescriminately believe the Sony company line, I feel sorry for you.
     
  8. deathking

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    Sony was able to get the PSJailbreak banned in pretty much most of the major countries preventing sales of the exploit in mass quantities.

    no they havent
    these jailbreak devices are sold there are tons and tons of varients now flooding the market and even if they did the exploit runs off dingoos and calculators
    sony lost on that ground
     
  9. foxgrey

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    Sony can get the software banned, but not the actaul devices. Many of the devices are legitly used for other projects. The only thing Sony has done, is make this hack non-main stream. Which is good. The developers of software still feel secure, and We get good games!

    Let the research continue!
     
  10. UnitGGChamp
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    Sony PR? Are you mental or just dumb? I only wrote the first TOP sentence not the bottom..TAKEN FROM ANOTHER POST...Sony PR? Want to see my youtube videos promoting the features of jailbreak genius??


    oh and this comment:

    This doesn't surprise me. Seeing as how you are stupid enought to believe it is actually true.

    Learn how to spell before you judge the wrong poster you fool..dumbass

    oh and schizo,this is what I wrote..the rest was another poster or in your words Sony PR(like they give 2 dumps about this topic)

    Taken from another post and before I paste I just want to say with Jailbreak you can get a large amount of games..but 75% of them suck and all the new hot games are releasing with the update..


    THAT IS WHAT I WROTE I HOPE YOU CAN READ THIS..
     
  11. Schizoanalysis

    Schizoanalysis From somewhere inside the rabbit hole...

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    WHO wrote the post you shamelessly copied? hm? That is my point. The person who wrote this was most likely paid by Sony, or has an interest in pretending that the jailbreak is dead.

    Fool.

    You believe everything you read without thinking. The article has major factual flaws. Get over it.
     
  12. UnitGGChamp
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    oh and I love how you noticed you were wrong and try to focus on another topic to make you seem right..Bravo..

    FYI just trying to inform people as many members here do not know or care for these tedious topics.

    And so what I have 50 posts,does that make you smarter or better informed?
     
  13. jalaneme

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    i think it is far from over, hackers have got so far with the jailbreak now the last time i read ps3 hax news they were trying to get the keys for the new security for 3.50 so they can dump the games, it is only a matter of time.
     
  14. Schizoanalysis

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    The article is wrong. Get over it!
     
  15. UnitGGChamp
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    dude why you trolling? have a bad day? I copied and pasted so what? Article is not wrong you bulging idiot,it's true..As far as it's source it does not matter..jeez you really are trying to seem right and you clearly are not..

    if the article is wrong as you claim,enlighten us all on how jailbreak was stopped for future games..Technical wise not "uh they used a new firmware" more like the article I posted..
     
  16. Schizoanalysis

    Schizoanalysis From somewhere inside the rabbit hole...

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    If you don't believe me, let me quote the reputable Rydian...

     
  17. UnitGGChamp
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    Keep comments to yourself if you can't explain them better then the ARTICLE I posted..Have a nice day!
     
  18. KirovAir

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    try to use normal ways to argue things.
    Also, thanks rydian for clearing things up.
     
  19. deathking

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    i see patches coming for games like moh
    what will sony do then
     
  20. UnitGGChamp
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    I will try to be more civil.