Hacking PS3 HDD cloned successfully

[depaul]

Not sure why, but my HDD (WD Black 500GB) wouldn't update and tried to repair it via safemode. Hoping that I can recover my saved games from this. I have cloned my drive and will wipe it clean and put the latest firmware of the PS3 on it. Is this going to work or am I doomed?

If the cloning process finishes successfully then your new drive will work for sure, provided that it's new and of the same size as the original.

the crypto used is from the console itself, a key called the eid root key is used (this key is stored inside the perconsole metldr) with a couple of keyseeds to generate either cbc or xts keys which will, in turn, decrypt the hdd.
if you clone a working disc to another, it will behave the same way (obviously with an ssd you'll have much faster speed but it'll also deteriorate faster since the ps3 doesn't support TRIM natively)

with the ps4 it's a similar method (but instead of having one master key, two keys are used, one by samu, and the other by the southbridge)
the samu key handles partitions like system, system_ex and system_data, while the southbridge key handles partitions like user, update and eap_vsh.

older ps4 models (such as CUH-1000 and 1100) use a static iv offset for the keys (0 in this case)
later models (such as CUH-1200 and above) use an iv offset that is calculated by subtracting the index of the device by 1 and left shifting by 32 (for example, for the user partition, this would be 27-1 << 32)

crypto for the ps3 device can be found here

https://github.com/Sorvigolova/ps3encdec/

and here

https://github.com/aerosoul94/PS-HDD-Tools

crypto for the ps4 device can be found here

https://github.com/zecoxao/ps4encdec

and here

https://github.com/aerosoul94/PS-HDD-Tools/
for ps3 crypto only the root key is required. for ps4 crypto (as of now we can only obtain the southbridge key), the southbridge key can be obtained either via a kernel dump (this is the easiest way for a hackable console) or via the ps4 hdd script by anonymous and an sflash dump

the offsets for the key location on the kernel can be found here

https://github.com/Ps3itaTeam/ps4-kexec/blob/9.00/magic.h

under the name kern_off_eap_hdd_key
the hdd script can be found in psx-place (search for the words ps4 hdd script)

Thanks Boss for the information

 

[Julien42x]

if i get a 1tb ssd to swap my old 60gb hdd and clone it will it work or ill loose the extra storage

 

[depaul]

if i get a 1tb ssd to swap my old 60gb hdd and clone it will it work or ill loose the extra storage

Nah it will copy exactly the 60GB encrypted structure, so unfortunately you'll only get 60 GB.

You can use the manual method to clone data:

** Using your old HDD
- Copy all the folders : game, GAMES, PS3ISO, PS3GAMEZ, PS2ISO, PSXISO, home, savedata, extada to an external HDD
(for 60GB, it will take between 1 and 2 hours).

** Using your new SSD
- Install your new SSD
- Install a file manager
- Paste those folders from your external HDD to your internal root folder
- Rebuild database

And voila you'll find all of your games and saves there.

 

[gamba66]

Is it possible to clone, say a 500gb to a 1TB drive?

 

[BigOnYa]

Is it possible to clone, say a 500gb to a 1TB drive?

OP states on the first page, it Might work.

 

[depaul]

I once cloned a 1 TB HDD into 2TB SSD. It works but you'll unfortunately only get the size of the original disc.
So if the target disc is bigger, you may use the manual method if you want to fully use the storage size.

 

[Cacho]

question, you say to don't initialize the hdd or anything on windows, then, how do I do? just wait for windows to boot up, open the application, and then connect the ps3 hdd via usb or sata and wait for the application to detect it? or can I boot up the computer with the hdd already connected via sata or usb?

note, I just want to save an image of the hdd to another hdd, not deploy it to upgrade or change the disk.

 

[depaul]

question, you say to don't initialize the hdd or anything on windows, then, how do I do? just wait for windows to boot up, open the application, and then connect the ps3 hdd via usb or sata and wait for the application to detect it? or can I boot up the computer with the hdd already connected via sata or usb?

note, I just want to save an image of the hdd to another hdd, not deploy it to upgrade or change the disk.

Yes, just use the application (HDD RAW COPY TOOL) after you connect the storage to clone it.
Windows may prompt you to "initialize" the disc, just ignore it and close the window.

 

[TRoesler]

You saved my bacon, man!

I recently decided that it was time to upgrade my old PS3 slim to an SSD, only to find that I was unable to back up to an external USB drive – as it turned out later due to a single faulty sector on the HDD – and I hadn’t backed up anything on my PS3 for several years..

After finding this guide, I decided to clone my HDD to an SSD (via an image file) using the recommended tool.

Upon inserting the cloned SSD into my PS3, it booted up fine, but I was still unable to back up to USB to save my previous game progress, getting Error 80030416.

I then restarted my PS3 and was then presented with a warning that the DB needed to be rebuilt. On the next restart, I attempted to back up again, but my PS3 simply froze: I was unable to turn it off via the Controller, not even the power button on the console itself would respond so I had to cut the power.

On the fourth restart I was then presented with a new warning, suggesting that the file system needed to be checked.

After the fifth and final restart, my PS3 successfully created a backup of all my data. *yay*



After the successful backup to USB, I decided to do a full reset of the console and then restored my backup to it, to be sure that all was in order.

Thanks again, man!

 

[SeltzerMist]

Looking to do this if a local shop can reapply thermal paste on my unit,

I'm already using a 1TB firecuda which is a hybrid SSD but a regular SSD would still be an improvement. I take it the capacity is still limited to 1TB?

That, and it sounds like it'd be a series of extra steps if I wanted to go beyond that as far as both accessing the storage and the clone process.

 

[Pattelicious]

Looking to do this if a local shop can reapply thermal paste on my unit,

I'm already using a 1TB firecuda which is a hybrid SSD but a regular SSD would still be an improvement. I take it the capacity is still limited to 1TB?

That, and it sounds like it'd be a series of extra steps if I wanted to go beyond that as far as both accessing the storage and the clone process.

Some people claimed to got 1.5 TB working on a ps3
"I investigated this years ago. The general consensus then was that any drive over 1.5TB might format and pretend to be OK, but would corrupt if you tried to go over 1.5TB of its capacity. 1.5TB drives or smaller should work fine."

Extern should 2 TB be working fine

Anyway you are more then fine with 1 TB

 

[BigOnYa]

Yea I got 2tb HD installed in my ps3 but only 1.5tb is usable, and I remember it being a pain to get it to work, had to use a WD formatter tool irc. A 1tb is enough and easier to setup, imo.

 

[SeltzerMist]

Do games benefit by being on an external SSD?

I'd really only be looking to set up console exclusives on mine

 

[BigOnYa]

Do games benefit by being on an external SSD?

I'd really only be looking to set up console exclusives on mine

I'd doubt it, its still only a USB 2.0 interface/ speeds.
USB 2.0 - 60mbs
Sata 1 - 150mbs