Homebrew Pokemon White - White Forest

[jurassicplayer]

It's NOT the ROM. Like I said in my first fucking post, I used the SAME ROM to load a separate .sav file, and it worked. Had it not worked, it would have been the ROM, but it did work.

Well, I wouldn't claim that it isn't the ROM still...counter idea to it not being the ROM. Suppose for instance that the grass is game dependant, thus is kept in the saved file (I would suspect that is the case). Now consider for instance that it isn't the entire ROM that is broken, but a small portion that creates the grass for saves is removed or addled in some way. This being the case, it could be possible to have someone else's save that works, as the data for where the grass must be is recorded in the save file and thus the game just needs to place the grass there and a different part of the game worries about the encounters and suchlike that happens on any of those types of grass tiles. So now with an idea that the patch might have done something, it is possible that any save created by the patched ROM will not be able to have the grass tiles as the section in the ROM that generates the placement of said tiles is broken, but the ability for said tile to appear and work still remains.

In any case, that is just some random speculation that I came up with, since it was a flaw in your logic (philosophy is driving me mad). Btw, just because Nintendo is stupid in some aspects doesn't mean they would create such a flawed system in which just because the grass doesn't appear means that the grass wouldn't have an encounter rate. For a more sensible example, just because a person doesn't have a lawn of grass doesn't refute the fact that any lawn of grass will eventually have bugs living there (provided it isn't some artificial stuff).

Worst comes to worst, blame it on your save file because that is probably unfix-able unless someone has an editor for it somewhere (and I'm willing to bet it is because of your save file).

 

[Hatchetball]

It's NOT the ROM. Like I said in my first fucking post, I used the SAME ROM to load a separate .sav file, and it worked. Had it not worked, it would have been the ROM, but it did work.

Well, I wouldn't claim that it isn't the ROM still...counter idea to it not being the ROM. Suppose for instance that the grass is game dependant, thus is kept in the saved file (I would suspect that is the case). Now consider for instance that it isn't the entire ROM that is broken, but a small portion that creates the grass for saves is removed or addled in some way. This being the case, it could be possible to have someone else's save that works, as the data for where the grass must be is recorded in the save file and thus the game just needs to place the grass there and a different part of the game worries about the encounters and suchlike that happens on any of those types of grass tiles. So now with an idea that the patch might have done something, it is possible that any save created by the patched ROM will not be able to have the grass tiles as the section in the ROM that generates the placement of said tiles is broken, but the ability for said tile to appear and work still remains.

In any case, that is just some random speculation that I came up with, since it was a flaw in your logic (philosophy is driving me mad). Btw, just because Nintendo is stupid in some aspects doesn't mean they would create such a flawed system in which just because the grass doesn't appear means that the grass wouldn't have an encounter rate. For a more sensible example, just because a person doesn't have a lawn of grass doesn't refute the fact that any lawn of grass will eventually have bugs living there (provided it isn't some artificial stuff).

Worst comes to worst, blame it on your save file because that is probably unfix-able unless someone has an editor for it somewhere (and I'm willing to bet it is because of your save file).

Well, that was pointless to read. Have you ever even played Pokemon? lol
It's not the patch, it's not the ROM, it could be the save... but I don't see why the save would have anything to do with rendering grass patches viewable within a game? If there's a switch... more freakin' power to them, but where the hell is the switch lol I got Pokemon I need to capture

Defending Nintendo's intellegence? Wow... you're not even a hacker qualified to give information then... lol
So you call this coding, done by Nintendo, intellegent: Just have a little look...
The video of course referring to a coding error that's in Pokemon White/Black (japanese) as we speak... it's a double battle error. (solve-able if you're not a complete retard like the kid in the video, you simply choose the first pokemon in the party (fainted) and goto switch, then pick the pokemon that's alive...)
Oh no, Nintendo would never fuck up and not add in a flag to activate a MAIN spot in a game would they

Oh wait yes they would ... example 2 >.> Main Legendary glitch - main story line glitch

 

[DxEggman]

It's NOT the ROM. Like I said in my first fucking post, I used the SAME ROM to load a separate .sav file, and it worked. Had it not worked, it would have been the ROM, but it did work.

Well, I wouldn't claim that it isn't the ROM still...counter idea to it not being the ROM. Suppose for instance that the grass is game dependant, thus is kept in the saved file (I would suspect that is the case). Now consider for instance that it isn't the entire ROM that is broken, but a small portion that creates the grass for saves is removed or addled in some way. This being the case, it could be possible to have someone else's save that works, as the data for where the grass must be is recorded in the save file and thus the game just needs to place the grass there and a different part of the game worries about the encounters and suchlike that happens on any of those types of grass tiles. So now with an idea that the patch might have done something, it is possible that any save created by the patched ROM will not be able to have the grass tiles as the section in the ROM that generates the placement of said tiles is broken, but the ability for said tile to appear and work still remains.

In any case, that is just some random speculation that I came up with, since it was a flaw in your logic (philosophy is driving me mad). Btw, just because Nintendo is stupid in some aspects doesn't mean they would create such a flawed system in which just because the grass doesn't appear means that the grass wouldn't have an encounter rate. For a more sensible example, just because a person doesn't have a lawn of grass doesn't refute the fact that any lawn of grass will eventually have bugs living there (provided it isn't some artificial stuff).

Worst comes to worst, blame it on your save file because that is probably unfix-able unless someone has an editor for it somewhere (and I'm willing to bet it is because of your save file).

Well, that was pointless to read. Have you ever even played Pokemon? lol
It's not the patch, it's not the ROM, it could be the save... but I don't see why the save would have anything to do with rendering grass patches viewable within a game? If there's a switch... more freakin' power to them, but where the hell is the switch lol I got Pokemon I need to capture

Defending Nintendo's intellegence? Wow... you're not even a hacker qualified to give information then... lol
So you call this coding, done by Nintendo, intellegent: Just have a little look...
The video of course referring to a coding error that's in Pokemon White/Black (japanese) as we speak... it's a double battle error. (solve-able if you're not a complete retard like the kid in the video, you simply choose the first pokemon in the party (fainted) and goto switch, then pick the pokemon that's alive...)
Oh no, Nintendo would never fuck up and not add in a flag to activate a MAIN spot in a game would they

Oh wait yes they would ... example 2 >.> Main Legendary glitch - main story line glitch

What the hell does this have to do with anything?

 

[Vulpes Abnocto]

I believe that's quite enough insults and snide commentary.

 

[MakiManPR]

well everything is just fine with mine i'm using AKAIO 1.8.1 and since AKAIO 1.7 the grass was there

EDIT here's my save file if u guys want to check it out

http://www.mediafire.com/?cu8oy140o01j0h1

 

[PyRoManiAcV3]

What the hell does this have to do with anything?

Um...he was proving that even Nintendo has faults?....Duh?


Thank you MakiMan, I'll run your .sav and see it it appears as well.

 

[jurassicplayer]

Thank you MakiMan, I'll run your .sav and see it it appears as well.

I think it would be better to test your save on someone else's computer/flashcart and see if it really is because of the save, since you already know that it has a possibility of appearing with what you have currently.

 

[Hatchetball]

I believe that's quite enough insults and snide commentary.

My bad. Didn't mean to prove a point to someone who is flamming >.>

 

[ShinyLatios]

well, i could also just use the walkthrough walls cheat to check up on it. don't know if it'll affect the forest or not.

I would think it wouldn't, never know with a japanese Pokemon game though LOL

Leave it to Nintendo to screw things up

*Surfs through E4 gate and walks to the champion room to win in seconds*

what? that possible in this game?

ON-TOPIC
I have lots of grass patches. I think it's randomly generated, seeing how some have none, some have some, and some have a lot!

 

[Hatchetball]

well, i could also just use the walkthrough walls cheat to check up on it. don't know if it'll affect the forest or not.

I would think it wouldn't, never know with a japanese Pokemon game though LOL

Leave it to Nintendo to screw things up

*Surfs through E4 gate and walks to the champion room to win in seconds*

what? that possible in this game?

ON-TOPIC
I have lots of grass patches. I think it's randomly generated, seeing how some have none, some have some, and some have a lot!

Uh no that's not in this version (that I'm aware of) it was a reference to a older Nintendo release of a Pokemon game that was glitched on the Japanese release...
White Forest is weird

 

[basher11]

well, im only on the second gym, and i just used the cheat to check if i had any grass.

 

[PyRoManiAcV3]

Thank you MakiMan, I'll run your .sav and see it it appears as well.

I think it would be better to test your save on someone else's computer/flashcart and see if it really is because of the save, since you already know that it has a possibility of appearing with what you have currently.

What I'm trying to do, is to see if it really is a glitched sav file, or if there's a trigger that activates it.
And before anyone posts saying "USE DA HIGHLINK!!!!!" NO. This does not activate it, it will "enhance" it.

I have tested 2 .sav files on my ROM, both having grass patches. I've ask someone to test my sav, but I don't think he did...

Anyways, I'm beginning to think that it is some sort of glitch in the sav file. If it is a trigger...no one knows what it is.

 

[jurassicplayer]

What I'm trying to do, is to see if it really is a glitched sav file, or if there's a trigger that activates it.
And before anyone posts saying "USE DA HIGHLINK!!!!!" NO. This does not activate it, it will "enhance" it.

I have tested 2 .sav files on my ROM, both having grass patches. I've ask someone to test my sav, but I don't think he did...

Anyways, I'm beginning to think that it is some sort of glitch in the sav file. If it is a trigger...no one knows what it is.

If you want, I can give your save file a test (since it isn't much work to test a save file), though since I haven't actually played the game (unless you want to count the 15-20 minutes I spent on the opening) it would be nice to have it saved within the White Forest if possible (otherwise I'll just look it up anyways, but meh).
Also, there probably isn't any other option except that there is something wrong with the save file. From what I read about the white forest, not only does it get enhanced, but grass patches and other things expand and grow. As this sort of thing MUST be game specific (since the grass can't grow for someone who doesn't highlink), it has to be within the save file.
I wish I could respond to the callout earlier from Hatchetball, but that sort of thing would get me in trouble...no choice but to take the comment TT-TT. In any case, all I'll say on that is that I could care less about everyone else's thoughts. I pass my time here to help out people, I have absolutely no reason to make people hate me (except for a person whose username starts with a K...but that is because that guy has an enormous ego that annoys the living hell out of me xD).

 

[Hatchetball]

I have nothing against you, jurassicplayer. If you played Pokemon and had useful information about the actual topic... then there would be no problem lol but yeah ... in a way you're flamming here... as some of your posts had nothing to do with the topic. (and no, I didn't sick the mod on you, I don't know what his/her problem is )

Anywho- on topic-
It would be excellent if 4-5 people let us test their .savs with our roms. I'm tempted to just PokesavBW all my Pokemon onto another .sav and start over with a diffrent save file, the Forest issue is a bit annoying as I cannot capture certain Pokemon. I've done the High Link dozens of times with a large amount of people (random noobs online, heh, testing is testing) and had no changes except that the Forest either got bigger or tree were in different spots, taller, etc... still the grass patches did not appear and I have never encountered a Pokemon in White Forest. Which is really freakin' weird LOL

PokesavBW might be the best fix for the users with this issue, but I would still like to at least find out what is causing this issue and fix it without PokesavBW

 

[PyRoManiAcV3]

I have nothing against you, jurassicplayer. If you played Pokemon and had useful information about the actual topic... then there would be no problem lol but yeah ... in a way you're flamming here... as some of your posts had nothing to do with the topic. (and no, I didn't sick the mod on you, I don't know what his/her problem is )

Anywho- on topic-
It would be excellent if 4-5 people let us test their .savs with out roms. I'm tempted to just PokesavBW all my Pokemon onto another rom and start over with a diffrent save file, the Forest issue is a bit annoying as I cannot capture certain Pokemon. I've done the High Link dozens of times with a large amount of people (random noobs online, heh, testing is testing) and had no changes except that the Forest either got bigger or tree were in different spots, taller, etc... still the grass patches did not appear and I have never encountered a Pokemon in White Forest. Which is really freakin' weird LOL

PokesavBW might be the best fix for the users with this issue, but I would still like to at least find out what is causing this issue and fix it without PokesavBW

Let me know if you fix it...

...LOL...since, you know...I can't -.-...

 

[Hatchetball]

Pyro, send me some .sav's when you get the chance tomorrow, idk .zip up a couple and I'll accept the download when I can (msn) If they all have patches in White Forest, then I guess it's just our save being corrupted somehow.
Either way we may have to import/export our pokemon with pokesavbw to a diffrent save that has the grass patches. I wouldn't mind starting over anyways to see some of the english updates -while having my pokemon.
Sucks tho, I just got my whole team EV'd an to level 100

So, peoples: Please send us some Pokemon White .sav files for us to test, it would be much appriciated if you are saved in White Forest

 

[PyRoManiAcV3]

It's fuckin' ironic that only our .sav's don't have the grass patches, wouldn't you agree?
So I'm assuming it's got to be something to do with a trigger, I hope.

Plus, how the fuck'd you get high link to work? It wouldn't work for us before

 

[MakiManPR]

I have nothing against you, jurassicplayer. If you played Pokemon and had useful information about the actual topic... then there would be no problem lol but yeah ... in a way you're flamming here... as some of your posts had nothing to do with the topic. (and no, I didn't sick the mod on you, I don't know what his/her problem is )

Anywho- on topic-
It would be excellent if 4-5 people let us test their .savs with our roms. I'm tempted to just PokesavBW all my Pokemon onto another .sav and start over with a diffrent save file, the Forest issue is a bit annoying as I cannot capture certain Pokemon. I've done the High Link dozens of times with a large amount of people (random noobs online, heh, testing is testing) and had no changes except that the Forest either got bigger or tree were in different spots, taller, etc... still the grass patches did not appear and I have never encountered a Pokemon in White Forest. Which is really freakin' weird LOL

PokesavBW might be the best fix for the users with this issue, but I would still like to at least find out what is causing this issue and fix it without PokesavBW

I posted my sav file u can try my save file
but I'd never been online

 

[Redrum22x]

Is your game in Summer, cause on Black, Black City... just isn't there during the summer. Try forwarding your DS a month for a different season and see if problems continue.

 

[basher11]

I don't think it's because of the seasons.