Gaming Physical Game Rant

[Goku1992A]

I'm not really understanding the logic of Nintendo on this one... I thought the game cartridge can hold 32gb? I have Borderlands Legendary Collection , RE Origins Collection, and Final Fantasy X-X2 and half of the game requires you download it... it kinda defeats the purpose of buying physicals.
Anyone know the reason because of this? Thankfully I bought these games new otherwise I would have been screwed if I bought used..

Also to clarify aren't these downloads only used once?

 

[lolcatzuru]

I'm not really understanding the logic of Nintendo on this one... I thought the game cartridge can hold 32gb? I have Borderlands Legendary Collection , RE Origins Collection, and Final Fantasy X-X2 and half of the game requires you download it... it kinda defeats the purpose of buying physicals.
Anyone know the reason because of this? Thankfully I bought these games new otherwise I would have been screwed if I bought used..

Also to clarify aren't these downloads only used once?

im not sure if this is a serious topic or not but here it goes. Yes, the carts can hold up to 32 gigs in size, however naturally that varies from game to game. Chances are, if you are downloading a patch for the game, its probably because the carts aren't big enough, or perhaps there were things they couldnt finish before the master gets shipped out for widescale production. The reason is because games are big, i dont know what other reason you need.

'As for the last question i dont have a clue what you are asking, does that patch only download once? i mean games could be patched more though i doubt in that size capacity, so yea i guess so, assuming you dont delete the data.

 

[cvskid]

I can think of another reason. Multi game collections like resident evil origins should either have 2 game cards 1 for each game in the game case or sell each game separate so they can both be in cartridge form.

 

[Goku1992A]

@lolcatzuru
Here is the thing I also have the pirated versions of the games RE Origins collections is 28gb , Borderlands Legendary Collection is 41gb but in all fairness they could have did dual cartridges , and FFX - X2 is 28gb but the point is if I want digital I'll just use my pirated switch. I wish they just put the game on cartridge's

I also was talking about the game download code I'm assuming you can only download the game once just like a PS4 or XBI digital download code

@cvskid
I prefer media I do pirate games but lately last gen XB1, PS4, I have been owning all my games I do like collecting the box and etc... if Nintendo games weren't so expensive I will buy more.

Legit is more easier than pirating because when you pirate you always have to update your CFW and be careful of not getting banned and etc..etc.. in the good ole days you can use only 1 CFW and play all games but nowadays it's getting hard and harder and with games being cheap it's easier to go legit but the good news about CFW is you get to preserve your games on the HD. I just like buying video games lol I can pirate for free but I do end up buying them when they are cheap. I just hate the fact what Nintendo is doing because what if you buy the game used you will get burned

 

[Blaze163]

It's irritating, I agree. Same problem with my Vita, FFX is on cartridge but X2 is download only. At least with the Switch it takes standard microSD cards which are cheap and easy to get, not some proprietary BS card that's rare and expensive. And the max on Switch is 2TB, not the relatively feeble 64GB cards that don't even work properly on Vita half the time. No idea why they do this, I wish they wouldn't. But so far the only Switch game I've experienced this with is Starlink Battle For Atlas. Even running from a physical cart it's still nearly 10GB install, a third of the internal memory. Just a touch ridiculous when much bigger games like Xenoblade 2 take up next to nothing when running off a physical card.

 

[lolcatzuru]

@lolcatzuru
Here is the thing I also have the pirated versions of the games RE Origins collections is 28gb , Borderlands Legendary Collection is 41gb but in all fairness they could have did dual cartridges , and FFX - X2 is 28gb but the point is if I want digital I'll just use my pirated switch. I wish they just put the game on cartridge's

I also was talking about the game download code I'm assuming you can only download the game once just like a PS4 or XBI digital download code

@cvskid
I prefer media I do pirate games but lately last gen XB1, PS4, I have been owning all my games I do like collecting the box and etc... if Nintendo games weren't so expensive I will buy more.

Legit is more easier than pirating because when you pirate you always have to update your CFW and be careful of not getting banned and etc..etc.. in the good ole days you can use only 1 CFW and play all games but nowadays it's getting hard and harder and with games being cheap it's easier to go legit but the good news about CFW is you get to preserve your games on the HD. I just like buying video games lol I can pirate for free but I do end up buying them when they are cheap. I just hate the fact what Nintendo is doing because what if you buy the game used you will get burned

yes download codes are only one offs, and it does suck, im assuming with the upcoming switch pro they plan on fixing that.

 

[Goku1992A]

@Blaze163
My switch lite have a 64gb SD card and my CFW switch has a 400gb SD card. I use my switch lite a little more because of online and most of the time with the cartridge's it doesn't take up alot of space but with the download it will take alot of space on the SD card which would defeat the purpose because If I want to do that I will just use my pirated version of the game but the bigger switch is too large to carry. I use my CFW switch on the dock only I don't even carry it anymore.

@lolcatzuru
The sad thing nowadays you really have to research the game before you buy it because in the past I was going to buy a FFX- X2 from someone used but if I did that I would have bought half of the game. I think that is what is setting the switch back because heavy hitter games like AC and etc..etc.. it is above 30gb and there is still alot of people who want the physical game versus digital.

But then again PS4 and XB1 is guilty because the disk is useless as they download the entire game on the HDD. I know they say that they makes loading speeds faster but let me make that decision because my PS4 is only 500 gb and a single game can be over 100gb so imagine having alot of games but you can only have maybe 5 games on your PS4

If I buy a game on the disk or a cartridge I want to play the game on a disk or cartridges without downloading anything with the exception of a game update. If I want digital I can just buy it from the store when it goes on sale.

 

[lolcatzuru]

@Blaze163
My switch lite have a 64gb SD card and my CFW switch has a 400gb SD card. I use my switch lite a little more because of online and most of the time with the cartridge's it doesn't take up alot of space but with the download it will take alot of space on the SD card which would defeat the purpose because If I want to do that I will just use my pirated version of the game but the bigger switch is too large to carry. I use my CFW switch on the dock only I don't even carry it anymore.

@lolcatzuru
The sad thing nowadays you really have to research the game before you buy it because in the past I was going to buy a FFX- X2 from someone used but if I did that I would have bought half of the game. I think that is what is setting the switch back because heavy hitter games like AC and etc..etc.. it is above 30gb and there is still alot of people who want the physical game versus digital.

But then again PS4 and XB1 is guilty because the disk is useless as they download the entire game on the HDD. I know they say that they makes loading speeds faster but let me make that decision because my PS4 is only 500 gb and a single game can be over 100gb so imagine having alot of games but you can only have maybe 5 games on your PS4

If I buy a game on the disk or a cartridge I want to play the game on a disk or cartridges without downloading anything with the exception of a game update. If I want digital I can just buy it from the store when it goes on sale.

im gonna be honest with you i really dont see a problem but you do you man

 

[The Real Jdbye]

I'm not really understanding the logic of Nintendo on this one... I thought the game cartridge can hold 32gb? I have Borderlands Legendary Collection , RE Origins Collection, and Final Fantasy X-X2 and half of the game requires you download it... it kinda defeats the purpose of buying physicals.
Anyone know the reason because of this? Thankfully I bought these games new otherwise I would have been screwed if I bought used..

Also to clarify aren't these downloads only used once?

Companies are cheap, and the bigger carts cost more money. Cartridges are much more expensive to manufacture than discs to begin with, and they can't increase the price of the game or people will complain (Switch games are already more expensive than other consoles), so they increase their profits by saving money going with a smaller cartridge.

@lolcatzuru
Here is the thing I also have the pirated versions of the games RE Origins collections is 28gb , Borderlands Legendary Collection is 41gb but in all fairness they could have did dual cartridges , and FFX - X2 is 28gb but the point is if I want digital I'll just use my pirated switch. I wish they just put the game on cartridge's

I also was talking about the game download code I'm assuming you can only download the game once just like a PS4 or XBI digital download code

@cvskid
I prefer media I do pirate games but lately last gen XB1, PS4, I have been owning all my games I do like collecting the box and etc... if Nintendo games weren't so expensive I will buy more.

Legit is more easier than pirating because when you pirate you always have to update your CFW and be careful of not getting banned and etc..etc.. in the good ole days you can use only 1 CFW and play all games but nowadays it's getting hard and harder and with games being cheap it's easier to go legit but the good news about CFW is you get to preserve your games on the HD. I just like buying video games lol I can pirate for free but I do end up buying them when they are cheap. I just hate the fact what Nintendo is doing because what if you buy the game used you will get burned

When you use a download code the game gets registered to your account, you can redownload it anytime, and you can log in with your account on a secondary Switch (I am not sure if there is a maximum limit for how many consoles you can do this on) and download the game there as well, people have been sharing games this way, but only one Switch can play a game at the same time, and the primary Switch gets priority.

yes download codes are only one offs, and it does suck, im assuming with the upcoming switch pro they plan on fixing that.

??? No they aren't. What do you mean, do you expect one code to be usable on multiple Switches and accounts? That would never work, people would just share big lists of codes online and nobody would ever buy anything.
Not even PC lets you do that these days unless the game is DRM free. It's always tied to an account (Origin, Battle.net, Steam etc...) and you would have to log in with that account in order to install your games which is the same way it works on Switch.

 

[Goku1992A]

@The Real Jdbye
Thanks I just looked it up apparently you can do a primary and a secondary but it only limits you to two consoles. But the catch is you have to share the username and password (ouch) I guess I'll just upgrade my SD card on my switch lite to a 256gb

I really wish the switch wasn't held back on the limitations of the cartridge because what Nintendo does is release older franchises but they don't complete it. For Example they have AC 3, 4, and Revelations but they are missing the other ones along with RE series the are missing 2 and 3. I chose my lite over my vita because the lite is more powerful.

 

[The Real Jdbye]

@The Real Jdbye
Thanks I just looked it up apparently you can do a primary and a secondary but it only limits you to two consoles. But the catch is you have to share the username and password (ouch) I guess I'll just upgrade my SD card on my switch lite to a 256gb

I really wish the switch wasn't held back on the limitations of the cartridge because what Nintendo does is release older franchises but they don't complete it. For Example they have AC 3, 4, and Revelations but they are missing the other ones along with RE series the are missing 2 and 3. I chose my lite over my vita because the lite is more powerful.

That is not a huge deal for me as I can change it to a shared password instead of my private password and I can always change it later if I want them to no longer have access but the bigger deal for me is my cloud saves, I worry if I share my account they could enable cloud saves and accidentally (or purposely) overwrite the save data I already have on my console once it syncs. I can turn cloud saves off on my console but I kinda like to have them in case shit happens. Doesn't matter if you don't have NSO though.

 

[GinoBeats]

Great information! I would have personally thought any game fit entirely on a 32gb disk, but apparently the f do I know lol

 

[Rafciu]

Collection like this reminds me of code in a box, so im avoiding it. Why Asian version (with English language) of FF X/X2 have both games on same cartridge and rest of the word has only X?

 

[subcon959]

The Switch is the last of its kind so this was inevitable. At least a significant part of its library is entirely physical. Owning your games is no longer going to be a thing after this.

 

[ciaomao]

Buying a half physical game is still better than full digital, as you can sell it afterwards.

 

[mspy]

This is becoming a common occurrence. For example Mortal Kombat 11 and the NBA games come on a 8GB cartridge but then the updates are like 30GB and I think you need to download the all thing again for each new update that comes out which is a pain to do over wifi or if your internet has limits. Some of this games even require you to have an SDCard in order to be played because the maximum usable space a switch has is only around 25GB, nintendo really went cheap on this, lets just hope that the upcoming nintendo switch pro comes with more space.

Oh and if you for whatever reason uninstall a game that you updated before and later on install said game again you are also obligated to update the game to the version you had when you uninstalled or higher even if it is a game that was perfectly playable without any update in the first place.

Funny fact is that Nintendo has planned to come out with 64GB cartridges support for the switch since 2018 but to this day I think they have yet to see the light of day maybe because no one wants to spend too much money to have those cartridges.

 

[Goku1992A]

The Switch is the last of its kind so this was inevitable. At least a significant part of its library is entirely physical. Owning your games is no longer going to be a thing after this.

I don't have a problem with digital games but I prefer physical but I do agree with you to a certain extent. The music industry a good percentage is digital music and piracy has went to an all time low. Video games are a little more complicated we probably will have physical media for a very long time.

Until the day we can trade digital games is when physical games die. I hate to admit this but digital games are superior to physical games. Physical games 20 years ago will barely play on your TV and look distorted but with an emulator you can play the game even better than you did when you was a kid.

I just like the box art and etc..etc.. also it do look nice to look at on your shelf

 

[TheGoat2]

It's a bit of a pipe dream, but I hope physical games remain an option for the foreseeable future, I love being able to sell back games or swap them with friends/family

 

[Goku1992A]

It's a bit of a pipe dream, but I hope physical games remain an option for the foreseeable future, I love being able to sell back games or swap them with friends/family

Well surprisingly video games are basically the last physical media being sold. People barely buy music they stream it and people barely buy DVD's they either have Netflix or Hulu. What is holding the video game industry back is that you cant really share a digital game and the steaming game services are not really that good. Game pass is the best we are getting but once again it does delist games. The most important thing is with physical games you have freedom with digital you don't have freedom.

There is still a huge market in buying and selling games opposing to music and videos you can easily pirate them. If people really pay close attention piracy has declined this gen. So I do see piracy becoming obsolete in the future. With the exception of Nintendo video games are very cheap and very affordable so having the desire to pirate your gaming system has declined.

We still do need CFW for future gaming systems to preserve the digital games. I'm just afraid piracy is dying after this gen.

 

[subcon959]

I dunno, I think it was over for physical games the day they decided it was OK to not put the entire game on the disc/cart.

The reason they are hesitant to go only digital is that they know they won't be able to keep charging as much. I'm kinda surprised there hasn't been a bigger backlash about downloads costing as much or even more than physical. It's obviously way cheaper for the publishers so why aren't the discounts being passed onto gamers.