Original xbox sata hdd and ssd compatibility

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  1. FatherFingLing
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    I know about the list of hard drives that are compatible with the original Xbox but I am wondering is there a list for SATA hard drives and SSD compatibility for the original Xbox?
     


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    I wouldn't get an SSD, you won't notice anything of the speeds (you're limited to ATA speeds)
    As for SATA HDDs, if it's a softmod, you'll have to lock it unless you flash your TSOP.
    A adapter is needed to get it to work tho.
     
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    I have an original Xbox that's never been modded. Thought about doing it since about 10-11 years ago, but never did. Is it even still worth the bother? I picked up most of the system's best games (that I was interested in playing) for $2 to $5 from estarland years ago. There didn't seem to be many games for that console that held value, at all.
     
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    Copying the games to the internal drive is one.
    Ability to play syslink games online is two.

    And it's never really a bad idea to replace the old harddrive inside it.
    You'll never know when it dies.
     
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    A third reason to mod, though it's less related to softmods and more to hardmods: if your (you meaning people in general) console is a model that's not 1.6, it's extremely vital to remove the clock capacitor, because many of them are now leaking and destroying the motherboards. Microsoft didn't really use quality parts back then..
     
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    To add to that, you can remove the clock cap and forget about it.
    No need to solder in a new one.
    Softmods have evolved so they don't go into a clock loop anymore and as long as you keep the box plugged in, it'll remember the time.
     
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    I think the exception to that is 1.6 consoles, though, don't they refuse to boot if the clock cap is missing? I guess it's not really anything to worry about yet, though. MS used decent to good quality clock capacitors on that model.
     
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    Why not just replace them with a properly rated even if smaller capacitor (maybe physically off the board) then? :)
     
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    1.6 doesn't boot then anymore nope.
    But, I haven't come across a 1.6 that showed signs of early leakage.

    Cause it'll end up leaking again in a decade.

    Edit: I agree out of a preserving point of view but why bother with something that's literally a ticking timebomb?
     
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    Less than 5 cents a year, sounds like a great investment :)
     
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    Don't forget, you'll be opening the box again, desoldering it and resoldering it.

    Best to just remove it if it's a 1.0-1.5
    Less then 0 cents a century.
     
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    My time is free :)
    And the same could be said of the hard drive, but since it's a lot smaller you could make it externally accessible :)
    Of course, I didn't mean something of the same model, there are caps over 20 years old that work just fine maybe with a slight ESR increase
     
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    Anything on a motherboard just has a finite lifespan.
    I'm pretty sure you know that as well ;p

    You could invest in a SSD and connect it with a SATA-IDE adapter, replace the clock cap with a rechargeable coin cell battery/new gel cap.
    But if you're like OP, who basically has no clue what he/she is doing, it's best to just stick to the easier things.

    It's just easier for noobs to just remove the clock cap and forget about it.
    No need to confuse them more and get us problems if they fuck something up.
     
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    I wanted to get an ssd for its reliability and not so much for speed and as well they have a lower capacity i only need 128gb but any ssd/hdd is compatible it its sata?
     
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    Harddrives are reliable as well.
    You're just throwing money away.

    But, it's not me money nor me xbox.

    Yes, they're all compatible if you got a Kingwin SATA to IDE adapter.
    Those are guaranteed to work.
    You might need to TSOP flash your xbox, it does circumvent the HDD locking procedure.
    Otherwise, you need a lockable HDD.
     
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    I have a v1.6 and its not tsop compatible so i would need a compatible sata hdd any model's from segate and wd that would work?
     
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    Trial and error really.

    There's so many drives out there.
     
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    Honestly, if u have a 1.6, ive learned the hard way, that its much easier to just chip it and use a custom bios (it won't care if the ssd/hdd is locked or not.

    Chip it, burn Hexen to a disc, boot into the custom bios, boot the disc. From there just format the drive and its good to go.

    No fussing with hotswapping drives (i killed my stock hdd doing that) and it failed to clone as well. Of course if you arent experienced with soldering than a chip isnt such a good idea, but thats just my 2 cents
     
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    Chimp works perfectly fine really.
    But yeh, chipping it is recommended.
     
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    Sorry to intrude on this thread, but a while ago i purchased a hard-drive which was "lockable" for my xbox. Clearly it wasn't because when trying to install it, i got an error message that apparently meant it was not lockable. So i ask, how could i lock this hard-drive (because Xbox Chimp clearly wouldn't lock it) or what would be a hard-drive you would recommend me buying?
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