Hacking Nintendont

[Shawshank]

The bios was actually heavily requested and is one of the most used features now.

Gamecube ports cannot be changed. The GameCube adapter has fully customized button mapping

classic controller (via bluetooth) can have the ABXY buttons rotated by pressing minus. If your using the classic controller as HID then all buttons can be fully customized.

Thanks for the advice. So, I will maybe buy a gamecube adapter (if I can success to find one at a descent price)...
For classic controller, the minus key will not solve the problem for car games, because the only easy way to play with manual gearbox is to use L and R buttons for gears...

 

[Adeka]

Thanks for the advice. So, I will maybe buy a gamecube adapter (if I can success to find one at a descent price)...
For classic controller, the minus key will not solve the problem for car games, because the only easy way to play with manual gearbox is to use L and R buttons for gears...

Try one of these. Everything can be customized

• Mayflash Wii Classic Controller to USB adapter for PC [PC052] (Multiplayer support!)
• Mayflash Wii Classic Controller to USB Adapter [PC045] (Multiplayer support!)

 

[Shawshank]

There is a use, if small. You can use it to manage the saves on the virtual memory card, if you're using a single unified one. Other than that, yeah it's mostly aesthetic. Video games, though, can be considered an objective waste of time and it's optional, so I don't see the big deal.

You're right, it is a bit useful for Wii U users if I understood well.

it was a joke, I play with adeka with his words "waste of time"
I have nothing against running the bios ! Adeka said my proposal is useless, that why I compared with bios feature.

 

[Adeka]

I never said it was useless. I said it was a waste of dev time.

Want to know what's useless? AP

 

[Shawshank]

Try one of these. Everything can be customized

• Mayflash Wii Classic Controller to USB adapter for PC [PC052] (Multiplayer support!)
• Mayflash Wii Classic Controller to USB Adapter [PC045] (Multiplayer support!)

Thanks for the links, it's a good idea.
It's just a pity to have to buy a lot of adapters to make a thing which is available on another emulators !
And another problem is that the Wii has only 2 USB port, which are already used by many many many users for hard drive.

 

[TecXero]

You're right, it is a bit useful for Wii U users if I understood well.

it was a joke, I play with adeka with his words "waste of time"
I have nothing against running the bios ! Adeka said my proposal is useless, that why I compared with bios feature.

Ah okay. It's also useful for Wii users, anyone that uses a single virtual memory card. When you start up a game, just hold A on the bios screen and you can manage the save data on your virtual memory card, just like you could on the NGC.

 

[Adeka]

Thanks for the links, it's a good idea.
It's just a pity to have to buy a lot of adapters to make a thing which is available on another emulators !
And another problem is that the Wii has only 2 USB port, which are already used by many many many users for hard drive.

But Nintendont is not an emulator

Crediar said that Nintendont wasn't going to work on wii to begin with. Just be lucky it does.

Also remember this project was based toward Wii U users (hence why we got so many random controllers that you can use)

 

[Shawshank]

But Nintendont is not an emulator

You got me

 

[Shawshank]

Crediar said that Nintendont wasn't going to work on wii to begin with. Just be lucky it does.

Also remember this project was based toward Wii U users (hence why we got so many random controllers that you can use)

More seriously, I didn't know that. How it is possible to make nintendont work only on vWii and not on Wii ???

 

[Adeka]

More seriously, I didn't know that. How it is possible to make nintendont work only on vWii and not on Wii ???

That was said by crediar way before we even got the alpha demo. Obviously things changed very early in development.

 

[Mr. Mysterio]

More seriously, I didn't know that. How it is possible to make nintendont work only on vWii and not on Wii ???

I think he means vWii, not Wii.

 

[Adeka]

I think he means vWii, not Wii.

Nope. Originally this project was only going to work on Wii U vWii

 

[Mr. Mysterio]

Nope. Originally this project was only going to work on Wii U vWii

I stand corrected. Thanks!

 

[Shawshank]

Hi devs,

I proposed few month ago to add a feature for mapping buttons as user want (like it exists in wii64 and wiisx).
This is very useful because a lot of car games are unplayable with manual gearbox due to a stupid choice of the game developpers (+ and - shift buttons are at not easy to use, even with the original gamecube pad).

no dev answer to me on this subject, so I don't know if it will appear one day in nintendont or not
I ask it now because I see that there is no very useful new features for the moment. Last addition were just for fun (BIOS support, update versions strings, ...)

Best regards

If Howard (because I suppose that he is the concerned developper, but maybe I'm wrong) could give its feelings about that, I will be very happy...

And if another people are interested by this feature, could you post a little message please...

 

[pedro702]

If Howard (because I suppose that he is the concerned developper, but maybe I'm wrong) could give its feelings about that, I will be very happy...

And if another people are interested by this feature, could you post a little message please...

there is an issue with that, first those emulators do that bacause they only need to anticipate for CC,GC, and the wiimote + nunchuck, with nintendont you got a huge problem, hid controllers, they can have the buttons they want and on the position they want, for instance you can connect a hid keyboard and have 50 buttons for input, so there is no way for nintendont to know which buttom is what, becuase hid controllers all had their custom number of buttons at will, unlike wii64 and wiisx where they give you 3 designs for you to change the buttom comands, on nintendont the hids can be all shapes and random number of buttoms.

See the problem now?

 

[FIX94]

IT IS REALLY AN OBJECTIVE WASTE OF TIME (you loose 5 seconds before playing.) ! lol

Maybe I'm seeing this a bit too philosophical but doesnt "wasting time" subjectively depend on what you see as entertainment? I mean for some people playing games would also be considered a waste of time but not for you. The BIOS in my opinion is the same way, its a bit of nostalgia, just gives you the right mood before a game starts.
ANYWAYS, to the people who discussed the size of a usb stick, it doesnt matter whatsoever, the wii usb driver is just very wonky when it comes to reading, speed can heavly depend on how good the usb device gets handled by the reading thread in the IOS, I tried my best to get the waiting delays as global as possible but I bet for people with big problems playing around with that could help.

 

[Adeka]

I'm pretty sure nostalgia was the main reason everyone wanted bios support anyway

 

[TotalInsanity4]

there is an issue with that, first those emulators do that bacause they only need to anticipate for CC,GC, and the wiimote + nunchuck, with nintendont you got a huge problem, hid controllers, they can have the buttons they want and on the position they want, for instance you can connect a hid keyboard and have 50 buttons for input, so there is no way for nintendont to know which buttom is what, becuase hid controllers all had their custom number of buttons at will, unlike wii64 and wiisx where they give you 3 designs for you to change the buttom comands, on nintendont the hids can be all shapes and random number of buttoms.

See the problem now?

I know it probably wouldn't be implemented, and I'm just throwing ideas out, but what if it was something like throwing an image of the front of a GameCube controller and highlighting one button at a time, and when that button is highlighted you press the button that you want to be the equivalent of that button on your controller of choice. If it's an HID controller, it builds a controller.ini, and if it's a bluetooth controller... well, I don't know :T I suppose there would have to be a way to edit the Bluetooth code, and that's incredibly finicky according to both Fix94 and methodical testing...

 

[OriginalHamster]

Thanks for the links, it's a good idea.
It's just a pity to have to buy a lot of adapters to make a thing which is available on another emulators !
And another problem is that the Wii has only 2 USB port, which are already used by many many many users for hard drive.

The GCN adapter is optional, you only need a Wii CC, if your Wii doesn't have GCN ports. If you want optimal gameplay you would want play it with a GCN controller, you need burn some cash.

 

[Lazareth]

The GCN adapter is optional, you only need a Wii CC, if your Wii doesn't have GCN ports. If you want optimal gameplay you would want play it with a GCN controller, you need burn some cash.

I prefer the FightPad (works like a classic controller except that it is shaped like a GC controller).

Also, the Wii supports a USB hub, at least mine does it pretty well when I need to use a keyboard/USB controller at the same time.