Nintendo Switch Banning Hub & Warning

Discussion in 'Switch - Exploits, Custom Firmwares & Soft Mods' started by Draxzelex, Jun 24, 2018.

  1. Draxzelex
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    As far as I know, no one has been banned for restoring a clean NAND as long as they didn't do any homebrew/CFW online.
     
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  2. JeepX87

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    Yes, that what I think too.
     
  3. horokeusama

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    Yeah, and you're right to point that out, but I think the best approach would be advise the risks and telling people that the bans comes more if you pirate Switch games and not so much for homebrew (specially that the only person who reported being banned for using ONLY homebrew had about 5 or so posts on gbatemp and never posted again).


    I myself stopped using homebrew after restoring my clean nand and nothing happened after that (thank god, because I wouldn't be able to afford a new Switch right now). But I've used emulators for about 6 months with wifi turned on while on CFW and nothing happened, so maybe we can learn something about nintendo's ban behavior with this.
     
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  4. supa42

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    I haven't been online since I backed up my NAND when I was on 5.1. I'm currently on 6.0.1 after updating with ChoidujourNX and I've never booted into OFW since. Am I right in assuming that if I want to go online I would need to restore the NAND and allow the Switch to update itself to 6.2, meaning if I want to use CFW again I will need to use Atmosphere?
     
  5. LoneFlo

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    Any trusted DNS out there that blocks all Nintendo's servers ?


    Yep, restoring a clean NAND is the safest way to avoid ban going online... You could also try EmuNAND to have 2 different firmwares , but it is, saddly, an SX OS specific feature for now. Up to you.
     
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  6. nvcheeko

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    Make sure you never accidentally boot without Auto RCM i have done that so my clean n,ot online console is screwed now i'm unable to backup as i have burnt more fuses then the OFW is on
     
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  7. Draxzelex
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    We're at nearly 20 homebrew only bans and people are getting banned for using LayeredFS without dealing with piracy. If we're talking about what action is definitely the unsafest, it is definitely using hacks online; piracy is not as high risk everyone makes it out to be which is just confirmation bias.
     
  8. Steejo

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    Are there reports of anybody being banned here due to SD card contents?

    I had my fun with Smash this past week and decided to restore back to my original NAND backup today, never once going online on my custom firmware. Although while booting the new restored NAND, I left my SD card in with all the Atmosphere files on it (although I deleted Smash and the game save on the SD card before doing the NAND restore). My WiFi did reconnect while in the restored NAND as well.

    Based on past experiences I think I'm fine, but am curious to know if anybody had a similar experience and ended up getting banned.
     
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  9. Draxzelex
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    SD card contents don't indicate a hacked console since the SD card does not play any mandatory role in hacking. If you wanna go the extra mile, just picture a scenario where you insert your SD card full of .NSP and .XCI files into an unhacked Switch. Does that Switch violate the Terms of Service? If its not hacked, then the answer is no. An SD card is just an SD card; its only meant to act as a storage device.
     
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  10. Steejo

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    You're almost definitely right (or so I hope), but if Nintendo were really inclined to catch people playing Smash early (or running homebrew), the OS could technically detect this and write a file to the SD card containing some UUID associated with your console or account, and then send that back to Nintendo servers from the SD card upon reconnecting.

    I'm probably overthinking it though to be honest :blink:
     
  11. Draxzelex
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    This is under several assumptions; that you're using an SD card (CFW can be run without it), that there is space left on it, or that people don't format their SD cards every now and then (which is quite common given corruption). Actually someone suggested comparing the space left on an SD card before and after CFW to see if anything was written to it but no one stepped up as tribute.
     
  12. Steejo

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    Assuming a file of some sort is written, it would likely be less than 1KB and probably pretty hard to detect just by checking the SD card's remaining space.

    Regardless, I'll make a post here if I do end up getting banned.
     
  13. icegold

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    I'd guess it's illegal for companies (ie Nintendo) to scan peoples SD cards and judge/read the content on their not specific to what we give them permission to see and use.

    Data protection/GDPR etc...

    I dont worry about whats on my SD card mainly for this thought
     
  14. Unleanone999

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    Stil not banned. Day 1 sx os user.
     
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  15. Steejo

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    I'm definitely not banned. NAND flashing was successful last night and everything is how it should be, can access eShop and see friends online.

    Can you use the eShop on the Switch? Yes
    Did you restore a clean hack-free NAND before going online? Yes

    Do you get the error code 2181-4008 trying to update your games? No
    Do you get error code 2137-7403 trying to update your system firmware? No
    Can you login to Nintendo's website using your linked Nintendo Account? Yes
    SX OS used? No
    Did you make an SX OS EmuNAND with a clean hack-free NAND then stay offline with it? No
    Trimmed .XCI? No
    Did you connect to the Internet with SX OS and/or to activate the license? No
    Did you play any .XCI files online with a certificate/header? No
    Do you have a certificate/header ban (look for error code 2124-4025)? No
    What do you use Non-SX OS LayeredFS for? Backups
    Did you connect to the Internet with a non-SX OS LayeredFS Inject? No
    Played online w/ Non-SX OS Layered FS Injects? No
    Did you inject an .XCI certificate using LayeredFS to play online? No
    Used DevMenu? No
    Installed any .NSP? Yes
    Did you connect to the Internet w/ any .NSP installed? No
    Did you play any .NSP installed online? No
    Did you perform any CDN/Freeshop downloading with your own Switch's certificate? No
    Did you update your .XCI/.NSP games online? No
    Did you ever use ReiNX? No
    Homebrew/non-SX CFW Used? Yes (Atmosphere 0.8.1, Tinfoil, .NSP Game Backup)
    Connect to Internet with homebrew/non-SX OS CFW? No
    Connect to eShop while using CFW/homebrew? No
    AutoRCM? No
    Did you update your firmware using ChoiDujour or ChoiDujourNX? No
    Did you install the exFAT update offline? Not Applicable
    receive-lp1.dg.srv.nintendo.net blocked and/or "Don't Share Usage Information" ticked under "Other Settings"? No
    Do you have eclct disabled (look for pm.kip under sysmodules/modules)? No
    Do you have creport enabled (look for a folder named 0100000000000036 under titles)? No
    What firmware(s) were you on when you cleared error logs prior to going online? Did NOT clear logs, did not go online, period.
    Wi-Fi settings deleted in CFW? Yes
    Console/Account Region(s) USA
    What device(s) do you use to send payloads with? Android, Rekado
    Do you enter RCM by bridging pins 9 & 10 together? Yes (using ns-atmosphere RCM jig)

    Additional Comments

    Set up a separate microSD card for homebrew, with Atmosphere 0.8.1 and Tinfoil installed. Did a full backup of NAND prior to any modding or entering of a custom firmware. Downloaded, installed and then played a backup copy of Super Smash Brothers: Ultimate prior to street release date for a week or so (Amazon copy on order since March, I'm just impatient), console was never fully powered off after having installed the game and was always either powered on or in sleep mode. Yesterday, prior to reflashing NAND backup back to its original state, fully removed the game software and game saves through the Nintendo Switch OS. Console never went online whilst in the Atmosphere CFW, airplane mode set on OFW before booting into CFW, followed by the removal of all saved wireless connections. Console will never have a custom firmware on it again as I don't want to get banned.

    Also to note, I accidentally left the microSD card with custom firmware and related files on it while booting into the backed up OFW after flashing NAND.
     
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  16. Ataru

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    hi! i'm here to ask if i'm safe to use a legit game cart (splatoon2) used online with a banned console.. i don't know why i'm banned. i have sx os with airplane mode and i never play online just update games in the past. the last thing i do it's restore the console with clean backup (but with lover fw version 5.0.2 instead of 5.1 ) i have used online before with 5.1 than i restore clean backup fw 5.0.2 and update to 6.1 online. thanks for answear

    Can you use the eShop on the Switch? NO
    Did you restore a clean hack-free NAND before going online? Yes

    Do you get the error code 2181-4008 trying to update your games? No
    Do you get error code 2137-7403 trying to update your system firmware? No
    Can you login to Nintendo's website using your linked Nintendo Account? Yes
    SX OS used? Yes
    Did you make an SX OS EmuNAND with a clean hack-free NAND then stay offline with it? Yes
    Trimmed .XCI? YES (not sure)
    Did you connect to the Internet with SX OS and/or to activate the license? No
    Did you play any .XCI files online with a certificate/header? No
    Do you have a certificate/header ban (look for error code 2124-4025)? No
    What do you use Non-SX OS LayeredFS for? Backups
    Did you connect to the Internet with a non-SX OS LayeredFS Inject? No
    Played online w/ Non-SX OS Layered FS Injects? No
    Did you inject an .XCI certificate using LayeredFS to play online? No
    Used DevMenu? No
    Installed any .NSP? no
    Did you connect to the Internet w/ any .NSP installed? No
    Did you play any .NSP installed online? No
    Did you perform any CDN/Freeshop downloading with your own Switch's certificate? No
    Did you update your .XCI/.NSP games online? YES
    Did you ever use ReiNX? YES
    Homebrew/non-SX CFW Used? Yes
    Connect to Internet with homebrew/non-SX OS CFW? No
    Connect to eShop while using CFW/homebrew? No
    AutoRCM? YES
    Did you update your firmware using ChoiDujour or ChoiDujourNX? No
    Did you install the exFAT update offline? No
    receive-lp1.dg.srv.nintendo.net blocked and/or "Don't Share Usage Information" ticked under "Other Settings"? No
    Do you have eclct disabled (look for pm.kip under sysmodules/modules)? No
    Do you have creport enabled (look for a folder named 0100000000000036 under titles)? No
    What firmware(s) were you on when you cleared error logs prior to going online? 5.1
    Console/Account Region(s) EU
    What device(s) do you use to send payloads with? Android
    Do you enter RCM by bridging pins 9 & 10 together? NO


    Banned: Y
    Used any CDN Downloader: N
    Unchecked "Send Errors" in Menu: Y
    Cleared Error Logs prior to going Online with nx-dreport: Y
    SX OS used offline: y
    SX OS used online: N
    Played with SX Backups online: N
    Layered FS Used offline: N
    Layered FS Used online:N
    Played with Layered FS Injects online: N
    Homebrew Offline: N
    Connect internet with homebrew: Y
    Connect to eShop during CFW: N
    Played with Layered FS Injects with OwnCert.: N
    Does the Eshop work: N
    Backups updated: Y
    WiFi settings deleted: Y
    Airplane mode: Y
    AutoRCM: Y (TX)
    SX OS Version used when Online: 1.3
    Auto Game Update/Downloads deactivated: N
     
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  17. MasterJ360

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    I don't understand the question.. if you are already banned why worry about being safe? You got banned for clearing logs
     
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  18. Ataru

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    because now i have a new console only for online and i don't want to be banned. i do the restore before been banned..
     
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  19. MasterJ360

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    A legit cart is fine, a ban isn't contagious unless you bought a 2nd handed game that got its cert dumped. Play online as much as you want with it
     
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  20. Ataru

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    it's a my game cart new.. i dumped it and used with sx os never online and i don't remove te cert inside of it... it's safe? Thanks
     
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