Nintendo hates gaming

[Law]

See my edit. And stop acting like a bag of dicks, because nobody cares.

The "casual gamer" shouldn't need it explaning to him, because a lot of these things is common sense, unless Nintendo is thinking of bringing out a "games for retards" line of games. The disc space it would probably take up could be used for better things. Like I said in the edit though, YOU do not know what the system is going to do, nobody knows for sure what it's going to do OR what it's going to be like, all I'm saying to YOU is to stop using shitty examples, I'm not explaining anything YOU might not already know, but things that a "casual" gamer should know.

How am I acting like a bag of dicks? What am I actually doing wrong other than defending something because people are jumping on the hate bandwagon without even reading the patent properly, which outlines pretty much all the features of the software? If anything, you're the one acting like a bag of dicks, calling all my examples shitty when you only care about ripping into the software without actually considering what it offers. If my examples are so shitty, why don't you offer some better ones?

Why are you so against Nintendo promoting the development of more titles like MadWorld, The Conduit and Red Steel 2? That's all this does. All it does is tell developers "Make those great games and we'll add a bit of software to the titles that will make casual gamers interested in them". Where does it say that they're turning all their games into ones only retards can, or will, play? I can't believe I'm seeing this - people actually against the growth of the core market on the Wii. I'm honestly surprised. Really damn surprised.


Read my edit again, you seem to be missing a huge chunk of it.

I have nothing against this system, by the way.

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Although I really couldn't care less about this system, the only way it could be implemented properly is if games actually started to become challenging.

Now, you want me to post examples? Sorry, I'm not going to. Why? Because I don't know what this system does, so I'm not going to throw some assumptions out there about how it'll help you to put a square emblem in a square hole in Silent Hill, or how to run around a boss area dodging its attacks.

Nobody knows exactly what this system is going to do yet, the only people who can provide solid answers and examples is Nintendo themselves. All I'm guessing it's going to do though is to tell you how to get from point A to point B, whilst bypassing the majority of any secret areas and totally getting rid of any exploration.


Edit: Oh look, I didn't read your post but it looks like you've posted more examples, although you really still have no idea what exactly it's going to do. Reading the patent alone may tell you what it is, but it isn't going to tell you what it does or how it's going to be implemented. Madworld is already out, The Condiut is going to be out soon but development has finished, how is Nintendo going to put these features on to finished games? It's going to be for new games only, and possibly only first party titles.

If anything, devs might have to make their games even more linear in order to accomodate the system properly.

 

[B-Blue]

The game is not even out, guys...
Let's just wait and see before we judge anything.

 

[Wintrale]

Now, you want me to post examples? Sorry, I'm not going to. Why? Because I don't know what this system does, so I'm not going to throw some assumptions out there about how it'll help you to put a square emblem in a square hole in Silent Hill, or how to run around a boss area dodging its attacks.

Nobody knows exactly what this system is going to do yet, the only people who can provide solid answers and examples is Nintendo themselves.

So let me get this straight... You're okay with people like the thread creator to jump onto the hate bandwagon after reading three lines of an interview with Miyamoto, but you're not okay with people like me who have read the patent and are trying to defend the software with examples we create through the knowledge we have of the software (which is far greater than something gleaned from The Examiner)? How does that even make sense? I'm making assumptions based upon what I know of the software and its features, which is a lot more than I can say for pretty much every hater in this thread, yet you've deemed it necessary to only aim the finger at me? Why is that, exactly?

 

[Law]

Now, you want me to post examples? Sorry, I'm not going to. Why? Because I don't know what this system does, so I'm not going to throw some assumptions out there about how it'll help you to put a square emblem in a square hole in Silent Hill, or how to run around a boss area dodging its attacks.

Nobody knows exactly what this system is going to do yet, the only people who can provide solid answers and examples is Nintendo themselves.

So let me get this straight... You're okay with people like the thread creator to jump onto the hate bandwagon after reading three lines of an interview with Miyamoto, but you're not okay with people like me who have read the patent and are trying to defend the software with examples we create through the knowledge we have of the software (which is far greater than something gleaned from The Examiner)? How does that even make sense? I'm making assumptions based upon what I know of the software and its features, which is a lot more than I can say for pretty much every hater in this thread, yet you've deemed it necessary to only aim the finger at me? Why is that, exactly?

Because you're acting like a bag of dicks, doing nothing but saying.
"BUT GUISE THIS IS GONNA HELP PEPLE 2 PLAY VIDEOGAEMS BY TELLIN THEM HOW TO BEAT PARTS OF IT!!! ITS GUNNA MAKE GAMING BETTA BECAUS DEVS ARE GONNA MEK MOAR H4RDC0R3 GAEMS 4 US 2 NJOY ND THE CASH004LS CAN PLAY 2!!!! lololol"

Followed by bad examples, and trolling.

Oh also, you used Silent Hill as an example of a game a person would need help in. Twice. Not to mention that games have an easy mode for a reason. If they go back to the days of Megaman where the only option was Hard, then the system probably wouldn't be so bad, but gaming has already been dumbed down enough. For example, Prototype doesn't even let you play Hard Mode until you beat it once, and Normal mode is a walk in the park.

Like YOU said, you're assuming. People who make assumptions about things are high of my list of people to dislike, mainly because your basing it from "knowledge" from a rather vague patent. Leave the examples to Nintendo, and go get yourself a beer or something, god damn.

 

[Hadrian]

Its not like we HAVE to skip the part of the game though is it? Its only for those shit at games and its their loss really as they'll wont have the feeling that they've achieved something. Also from what I've read its kinda redundant because you still have to play through the parts of the games you skipped if you want to save the game.

Its crappy that Nintendo have to do this, I really don't see this thing improving game sales at all for them.

Best thing that could happen is that Nintendo will make games harder and use this system for those who are shitty at games and worst case is that they'll be the same as they are now (way too easy) but will still have the system.

Either way I don't see this being an effecting Nintendo's future titles at all.

 

[p1ngpong]

See my edit. And stop acting like a bag of dicks, because nobody cares.

The "casual gamer" shouldn't need it explaning to him, because a lot of these things is common sense, unless Nintendo is thinking of bringing out a "games for retards" line of games. The disc space it would probably take up could be used for better things. Like I said in the edit though, YOU do not know what the system is going to do, nobody knows for sure what it's going to do OR what it's going to be like, all I'm saying to YOU is to stop using shitty examples, I'm not explaining anything YOU might not already know, but things that a "casual" gamer should know.

How am I acting like a bag of dicks? What am I actually doing wrong other than defending something because people are jumping on the hate bandwagon without even reading the patent properly, which outlines pretty much all the features of the software? If anything, you're the one acting like a bag of dicks, calling all my examples shitty when you only care about ripping into the software without actually considering what it offers. If my examples are so shitty, why don't you offer some better ones?

Why are you so against Nintendo promoting the development of more titles like MadWorld, The Conduit and Red Steel 2? That's all this does. All it does is tell developers "Make those great games and we'll add a bit of software to the titles that will make casual gamers interested in them". Where does it say that they're turning all their games into ones only retards can, or will, play? I can't believe I'm seeing this - people actually against the growth of the core market on the Wii. I'm honestly surprised. Really damn surprised.

We are all against Nintendo's constant dumbing down of gaming. They were the last company many of us were expecting to see do this.

This wont result in better more challenging core games, it will result in more dumbed down garbage that holds your hand and is geared towards people too afraid to play the sort of deep challenging games we all enjoy. The kind of games that are in a huge minority on Nintendo systems these days.

And if you think Nintendo have been trying to send out the message "Make those great games and we'll add a bit of software to the titles that will make casual gamers interested in them". then you obviously havent been following the never ending flood of garbage that hits Nintendo systems these days. That Nintendo happily licence and reap profits from.

I mean look at the first game getting this, a side scrolling platformer. All you have to do is walk to the right and not fall down a hole for Gods sake.

Now feel free to stop jumping on every one who has a difference of opinion from you.

And get ready to play "Imagine: When Mario used to be a challenging platformer"

Now with integrated walkthrough for morons.

 

[Wintrale]

Because you're acting like a bag of dicks, doing nothing but saying

"BUT GUISE THIS IS GONNA HELP PEPLE 2 PLAY VIDEOGAEMS BY TELLIN THEM HOW TO BEAT PARTS OF IT!!! ITS GUNNA MAKE GAMING BETTA BECAUS DEVS ARE GONNA MEK MOAR H4RDC0R3 GAEMS 4 US 2 NJOY ND THE CASH004LS CAN PLAY 2!!!! lololol"

Followed by bad examples, and trolling.

Like YOU said, you're assuming. People who make assumptions about things are high of my list of people to dislike, mainly because your basing it from "knowledge" from a rather vague patent. Leave the examples to Nintendo, and go get yourself a beer or something, god damn.

Yeah, of course. Telling people that this'll attract more casual gamers to real games is sooooooo much worse than "OMG NINTENDO H8Z GAYMING & IZ D3STROYIN EET WITH DEMO PLAY CAUSE IT PLAYZ GAYMZ 4 U! I WUD RATHR WATCH A WALKTROO ON UTOOB THN ON MAH WII. TEY R SO REMOVING TEH GAYMING FROM GAYMZ."

 

[Law]

Because you're acting like a bag of dicks, doing nothing but saying

"BUT GUISE THIS IS GONNA HELP PEPLE 2 PLAY VIDEOGAEMS BY TELLIN THEM HOW TO BEAT PARTS OF IT!!! ITS GUNNA MAKE GAMING BETTA BECAUS DEVS ARE GONNA MEK MOAR H4RDC0R3 GAEMS 4 US 2 NJOY ND THE CASH004LS CAN PLAY 2!!!! lololol"

Followed by bad examples, and trolling.

Like YOU said, you're assuming. People who make assumptions about things are high of my list of people to dislike, mainly because your basing it from "knowledge" from a rather vague patent. Leave the examples to Nintendo, and go get yourself a beer or something, god damn.

Yeah, of course. Telling people that this'll attract more casual gamers to real games is sooooooo much worse than "OMG NINTENDO H8Z GAYMING & IZ D3STROYIN EET WITH DEMO PLAY CAUSE IT PLAYZ GAYMZ 4 U! I WUD RATHR WATCH A WALKTROO ON UTOOB THN ON MAH WII. TEY R SO REMOVING TEH GAYMING FROM GAYMZ."

I think you're confusing me with another member, I didn't actually say anything about Youtube, nor did I ever express hate or dislike towards the system, in your recent bout of NERD RAGE it seems as though you've been blinded and become confused.

 

[Wintrale]

I think you're confusing me with another member, I didn't actually say anything about Youtube, nor did I ever express hate or dislike towards the system, in your recent bout of NERD RAGE it seems as though you've been blinded and become confused.

Thank you for proving my point. You've been rather concentrated on my posts, haven't you? You've seemingly completely ignored the fact that what I wrote is the "informed" reaction of the haters. Yet you've not critisized them.

 

[Law]

I think you're confusing me with another member, I didn't actually say anything about Youtube, nor did I ever express hate or dislike towards the system, in your recent bout of NERD RAGE it seems as though you've been blinded and become confused.

Thank you for proving my point. You've been rather concentrated on my posts, haven't you? You've seemingly completely ignored the fact that what I wrote is the "informed" reaction of the haters. Yet you've not critisized them.

That's because they make themselves already look worse than you, but making even wilder assumptions about the system. Why concentrate on the people who know they know nothing, when I can concentrate on those who know nothing, but pretend they do? You know nothing about the system, nobody does, you can't just read a patent and go "OKAY NOW I KNOW EVERYTHING NINTENDO IS GOING TO DO!", because you don't. You never will. You are not Nintendo, you do not share their thought processes, you do not have access to any specific secretive intel they may have about the system. Nobody knows what this system is going to do, and yet you keep pretending as though you do know.

"o hey guize bcuz nintendo r doin this now i can put square emblem in square hole!1!! now i is pro gamer liek u guize!".

 

[Wintrale]

That's because they make themselves already look worse than you, but making even wilder assumptions about the system. Why concentrate on the people who know they know nothing, when I can concentrate on those who know nothing, but pretend they do? You know nothing about the system, nobody does, you can't just read a patent and go "OKAY NOW I KNOW EVERYTHING NINTENDO IS GOING TO DO!", because you don't. You never will. You are not Nintendo, you do not share their thought processes, you do not have access to any specific secretive intel they may have about the system. Nobody knows what this system is going to do, and yet you keep pretending as though you do know.

"o hey guize bcuz nintendo r doin this now i can put square emblem in square hole!1!! now i is pro gamer liek u guize!".

Righto. Evidently informed speculation doesn't exist in your world. Well, whatever. Enjoy discussing this with everyone else here, since it's obvious our discussion is over.

 

[Toni Plutonij]

Thread is getting ruined!! AND IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT P1NGY!!!!!

No really, Wintrale & Law....chill....

Thread will be reopened soon..

 

[Toni Plutonij]

Be nice!!

 

[kjean]

Meh, I don't have any Wii.

 

[PettingZoo]

I would reply fully, but what's the point? You think watching a video walkthrough on YouTube is acceptable while watching the same video, but played by one of the developers, on your Wii is heresy.

I'm not saying that watching/reading walkthroughs on Gamefaqs and Youtube is acceptable, I'm stating that if they need help then they can acquire it through getting off their asses and researching for it (Even though it is hardly researching) rather than having the game present it's answers to the player.
Dude seriously if a casual gamer or any type of gamer out there wants to play a game such as "The Conduit" or "Red Steel 2", they will play it because it interests them, not because they think it is going to be an easy game to play, otherwise it would become a complete waste of money. Stop using casual gamers as an excuse to justify this software.

 

[redact]

this is so lame :/
imagine if you'd watched a game like golden sun instead of playng it just because it got hard, it would ruin the game for you

 

[UltraMagnus]

its not like its anything new, I have played games that give you the option to skip a level after you die on it so many times before, this is just an evolution of that.

 

[jan777]

maybe ninty received a complaint of headaches or something solving puzzles form LoZ or some game..you know how ninty is about your health

also stop whining "hardcore gamers"

you dont really have to use it if you dont want to!!1!!!1111!!!111one

 

[Wintrale]

Stop using casual gamers as an excuse to justify this software.

But isn't that exactly why they're the software is being made in the first place? For casual gamers? Like I said, if the inclusion of this promotes the sale of core games, I'm all for it. If it proves completely inaffective, it never affected anyone anyway. Either way, it's not hurting anyone so I don't see why people are acting like it's going to kill gaming... It won't automatically boot up and start taking over your game, so why people are actually against something so passive I'll never know.

 

[skawo96]

Whoa. Nintendo is bundling a walkthrough with a game and that's it. It's like you'd get a player's guide. What's wrong with that? It doesn't ever force you to use it, so if you don't want, then just forget about this option.


I personally don't think it will help casuals or improve the sales, but jeez, if they want to implement an option like that, let them. It's not like it'll take too much disc space, because they can use almost whole 8GB if they want.




And if it concerns you how others play, then you have serious problems.