Hacking Nintendo 3ds/XL :Swapnote possible exploit/hack

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Being able to display text on screen does not mean you have the software rights to modify the OS of the machine (even patching things as it runs), which is what is needed to remove the signature checks and make the edit permanent.

Look at the PSP for an example. For a few years the only way to run homebrew was to load a game and do a save game hack, and it didn't have the rights to edit the system so the hack would be lost when you restarted the PSP. That's just one of the drawbacks to the better security.
 
with some one with 44 post and think like a Bright guy you should go learn and study because all you say was said be someone else on the 3dbrew forum in this case you are only a copy paste troll.

I can't help it but answer.I will reply to your "statement" with an example "Gshock is a troll that copy pastes cause he has 63 posts".
You take the value of the post from the amount of posts by the same reason i can clearly call you a troll that came here to upset the forum.
I always check the scene and btw i am studying and have some knowledge already so someday maybe i can help the scene and not throw my clueless thoughts in a forum unlike you.
 
I think it's fairly clear that OP is either young or has no clue what he's doing.
Sorry for the cross-language, but here we go.

Ecoute. "Ca marche dans ma tête", c'est pas un bon argument pour convaincre les gens. D'apres ce que je lis de toi, tu comprends rien du tout de comment ca marche. Juste le fait que tu ne sais pas comment programmer (même un peu) nous pousse a douter du fait que tu sais apparamment de quoi tu parles. Si t'es jeune, c'est pas grave, l'internet va te pardonner.
Translation : Listen. "It works in my head" isn't a good thing to say to convince people. From what you've posted, you don't seem to understand how any of this works. The fact that you can't program (even a little) makes us doubt your claim. If you're young, don't worry, the internet will forgive you.


A qui tu parle? serieusement jai 21 ans pi je nest hacker des chose dans mas vie mais avec l'aide de gens j'ai meme participer a hacker le iphone 3g pour le dualboot(android-ios) je sais pas si tu comprend met jparle dla 3ds ya une difference ji connais que dale dans nintendo apar la wii(wii-u) met sa ser autre chose sque jveu faire voire au monde ser que la simple facon de hacker la 3ds ser soi par SWAPNOTE ou nintendovideo pi toi ta dlere de quelqun qui connais fuck all jmostinerais pas avec un gas dans ton genre jser deja qui qui va gagner:lol: met spa sa l'important ser que tu comprene que jveut essayer dla hacker sa prend pas la tete a papineau pour comprendre que jedbute dans le hack dla 3ds (jsuis iphone ) fak stp respecte sa et apelle moi pas kid si ser a moi que tu parlais.:p1ng:
 
Le savoir est quelque chose quon a tous a linterieur de nous il faut just l'exploiter.:lol:

Euh, non. Le savoir de fair quelques choses est quelque chose que vous apprenez, vous n'êtes pas né avec le, sauf si vous comptez le savoir de la façon de respirer.

...BTW, le hardware de la 3DS est rien comme un iPhone.
 
Being able to display text on screen does not mean you have the software rights to modify the OS of the machine (even patching things as it runs), which is what is needed to remove the signature checks and make the edit permanent.

Look at the PSP for an example. For a few years the only way to run homebrew was to load a game and do a save game hack, and it didn't have the rights to edit the system so the hack would be lost when you restarted the PSP. That's just one of the drawbacks to the better security.


i know this about the psp but i dont know if you remember they did have make a way to make you battery like a pandoras one and make a magic memory stick with a normal one and with this your psp should be fully hacked (i did and it worked)
 
I can't help it but answer.I will reply to your "statement" with an example "Gshock is a troll that copy pastes cause he has 63 posts".
You take the value of the post from the amount of posts by the same reason i can clearly call you a troll that came here to upset the forum.
I always check the scene and btw i am studying and have some knowledge already so someday maybe i can help the scene and not throw my clueless thoughts in a forum unlike you.


forget that...ok?:ha: so many people are making me rage for nothing ..
 
Euh, non. Le savoir de fair quelques choses est quelque chose que vous apprenez, vous n'êtes pas né avec le, sauf si vous comptez le savoir sur la façon de respirer.

...BTW, le hardware de la 3DS est rien comme un iPhone.


jai pas dit le hardware etais pareil met que setai la meme simpliciter entika et le savoir sa vien de meme prend exemple avec Beethoven un maestro du piano mais pourtant sourd.(ou aveugle)
 
i know this about the psp but i dont know if you remember they did have make a way to make you battery like a pandoras one and make a magic memory stick with a normal one and with this your psp should be fully hacked (i did and it worked)
That only works with the 1000 and earlier 2000 models. Pandora does not work on later 2000 models, any 3000, Go, or Street. Those are the later models that had to deal with limited game hacks for multople years.
 
i know this about the psp but i dont know if you remember they did have make a way to make you battery like a pandoras one and make a magic memory stick with a normal one and with this your psp should be fully hacked (i did and it worked)

Right, I'm not going to bother with translating into French anymore since it takes way too long plus my French is rusty, even if I help myself with Google Translate I CBA. :P

The Pandora Battery trick worked because it was a failsafe Sony themselves included in the system - if the battery inserted into the system returned a serial consisting of only "0's", the device would enter service mode and allow firmware installation. It was a part of the manufacturing process.

Thing is, if you damaged the chip in a particular fashion, you could "make" it return those "0's" artificially. That's a vulnerability and that's why the PSP was hacked. You don't have one of those so it's not going to work, plain and simple.
 
That only works with the 1000 and earlier 2000 models. Pandora does not work on later 2000 models, any 3000, Go, or Street. Those are the later models that had to deal with limited game hacks for multople years.

I know but the 2001 model worked also but can we please go to my thread and talk about possibility hacking the 3ds with any sort of hack thanks.B-)
 
Forget about him, guys. He can't even write proper French. He's a kid from Quebec, who by "hacking" has run OTHERS' code on his stuff. He's never "hacked" anything and it's pretty obvious. I don't feel like writing everything twice again so screw French (which is one of my native languages).

Learn English, kid. It'll help you program ;)
 
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To Dear OP.
1.To hack something you should get the SENSE also with the KNOWLEDGE. if you are not skilled in Hardware(FPGA(Verilog), SoC, ARM(Assembly)..) or Software(C,C++, (ARM)Assembly, Web/Cipher/GenericSecurity..) you are not guarteed to have the ability. Or you should try to learn something first. IIRC, those on board of hacking a console should get both skills of software and hardware. So luckily i'm now learning verilog.
2.Those "Suspicious" execution in (possible) exploits may have some special behaviour. (ie when buffer-overflow there can be repeatly data which you feed in, but that can be not too easily found as a bug/threat in programming. so please not count on overflow too much..) If you found a possible exploit, you should already got something special (not simply crash), and in this case i sugguest you to read "How to find a exploit" on wololo.net. Also all those apps running in user-land not kernel-land -- you may read "A Guide to Kernel Exploitation - Attacking the core", and that book should explain that knowledge well for you.
3.If you really found something very suspicious, you should get it done analysed with someone on irc (that 3dbrew's). There are guys as experts on hack a win app, or analysing a section of arm code, or creating a smart tool, or have a lot of games to try the exploit...etc. so i say there are ones skilled on that irc. oh well you can keep this thread (as long as the Moderator haven't get it closed). You can talk to them politely and state what you find suspicious, and someone may already tried that would state what it is supposed to be, or someone get interested would work with you a several hours to find whether that should be something or just a simple bug that useless. Those are really smart ones (well if you intend to form a team you can ignore me).
To Dear Foxi4.
Well my calling you is just 'cause i can not read French. If possible please include the english translation okey?

I've already in a team of noobs (in which there are some one skilled in programming, some in translation, and some in judge the news and so on - however very few have already bite the hardware. All Chinese) so sorry i would not "join" you, but if you do form a team i would be happy to see it or even contact. As the end of this post. Enjoy your day. Hacking is a great game.
 
To Dear OP.
2.Those "Suspicious" execution in (possible) exploits may have some special behaviour. (ie when buffer-overflow there can be repeatly data which you feed in, but that can be not too easily found as a bug/threat in programming. so please not count on overflow too much..)
Yup. On a whole lot of systems an overflow won't even work at all (at least not without extreme gymnastics) since the area of memory for binaries may very well be fixed (divided into levels) - even if you do overflow the memory out of its bounds and crash the system, you will not be assigned spare memory within the executable area (level), making the effort pointless.

Well my calling you is just 'cause i can not read French. If possible please include the english translation okey?
Long story short it was along the lines of "You cannot do that without finding a vulnerability beforehand, the circle of trust is encryption -> signature -> header -> binary and if you want to jump over encryption, you need an exploit, modifying a ready binary or an encrypted file will not work because the keys will not match with the results and the system will reject the file as corrupt" over and over again. :)
 
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Forget about him, guys. He can't even write proper French. He's a kid from Quebec, who by "hacking" has run OTHERS' code on his stuff. He's never "hacked" anything and it's pretty obvious. I don't feel like writing everything twice again so screw French (which is one of my native languages).

Learn English, kid. It'll help you program ;)


Yo jte trouve dehors pi jten caliss une men ten faire un kid criss de bs sale. rire des autre sa va t'aider a aller loin gros enculer sa ser sur. pis mon francais est pas si pire a comparer ta tronche tu dois avoir dehors(oui je suis en caliss) mais just apres toi.
 
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