New York Times standing with writer after her racist tweets come up

[Viri]

Spoiler

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45052534
https://www.dailywire.com/news/33976/irony-social-media-mob-comes-sarah-jeong-who-ben-shapiro

So, thoughts? Does she deserve to lose her job? Do you buy her excuse? Do you think she's racist, lol?

 

[Xzi]

So, thoughts? Does she deserve to lose her job? Do you buy her excuse? Do you think she's racist, lol?

Based on the fact that they had already vetted her social media history, she doesn't deserve to lose her job. It is believable that she was being satirical of racism directed at her from white people, though that's still not a good excuse for perpetuating what can be read as hate. No, I don't think she's racist at heart. If she is, the behaviors always repeat themselves eventually.

 

[Quantumcat]

Before you post anything on Twitter, it is a good idea to think about how it will sound in absence of the tweet you reply to (if any) and without any context and without knowledge of current news - as that's exactly how it will sound in a year or two's time.

 

[TotalInsanity4]

Some of these are worse than others, but none of them are "Roseanne" bad in my eyes.

Plus, again, these aren't recent, they're all at least 5 years old. If it were a tweet made yesterday and were along the lines of the "I get joy from being cruel to old white women" one, I'd be a bit more sympathetic to the outrage. But... They weren't

 

[FAST6191]

It is believable that she was being satirical of racism directed at her from white people

Do any of the white supremacist type people do that cultural appropriation bollocks or the equivalent thereof? Much of the others I could possibly read* as "what if we did a word replacement" or a slightly more advanced version thereof but the only time I have seen it brought up by said people that rather enjoy their whiteness is to laugh at its existence.

*it would be being generous but fair enough.

 

[ChaosEternal]

Well, now that they've decided that firing people over years old tweets is overkill, when are they planning to rehire Quinn Norton?

 

[Kioku]

I think people need to quit crying..

 

[yuyuyup]

Did the mean ol Asian hurt your poor wittle feefees, I swear I'm so ashamed to be white when I hear whites literally soaking their diapers with their own piss (maybe tears as well?)

 

[Kioku]

Did the mean ol Asian hurt your poor wittle feefees, I swear I'm so ashamed to be white when I hear whites literally soaking their diapers with their own piss (maybe tears as well?)

I wouldn't go THAT far, but I agree with the general statement. If we spent as much time on REAL ISSUES like we do worrying over petty bullshit, we'd be a better world... But, no... We're worried about someone saying mean things, like that has anything to do with the real world.

 

[ChaosEternal]

Did the mean ol Asian hurt your poor wittle feefees, I swear I'm so ashamed to be white when I hear whites literally soaking their diapers with their own piss (maybe tears as well?)

Well, given that they fired someone else a few months back for offensive tweets, I guess we must be in good company with LGBT and disabled people. And anyone else who was offended by that person I suppose.

 

[Kioku]

Well, given that they fired someone else a few months back for offensive tweets, I guess we must be in good company with LGBT and disabled people. And anyone else who was offended by that person I suppose.

First world problems..

 

[TotalInsanity4]

Well, given that they fired someone else a few months back for offensive tweets, I guess we must be in good company with LGBT and disabled people. And anyone else who was offended by that person I suppose.

I'll say it again, there's a difference between someone doing something in the present, and digging up their past to find skeletons from before they got their shit together. People (or at least most people) are in a constant state of evaluating and changing their behavior based on feedback. If they're not doing something anymore that clearly in hindsight was either harmful or distasteful, it's pretty safe to say they've seen the error in their ways

 

[sarkwalvein]

I don't like the NYT, but I'm happy at least them are putting some stop to this fad where supposedly 4chan style trolls are some kind of SJW crusaders. Yeah, hope they lose their "power" already.

 

[ChaosEternal]

I'll say it again, there's a difference between someone doing something in the present, and digging up their past to find skeletons from before they got their shit together. People (or at least most people) are in a constant state of evaluating and changing their behavior based on feedback. If they're not doing something anymore that clearly in hindsight was either harmful or distasteful, it's pretty safe to say they've seen the error in their ways

That person's posts were from the same time period as this person's posts. In both the current and the past case the tweets were several years old.

 

[the_randomizer]

NY Times is defending her? What a surprise Glad I don't read that shit.

 

[deinonychus71]

aaaand the twitter inquisition continues...

Seriously...

 

[gnmmarechal]

Erm... those are some... questionable tweets...

 

[FAST6191]

I wouldn't go THAT far, but I agree with the general statement. If we spent as much time on REAL ISSUES like we do worrying over petty bullshit, we'd be a better world... But, no... We're worried about someone saying mean things, like that has anything to do with the real world.

Is editorial staff at a major news publication, in a time when said publications frequently wander through activist territory (this one in particular endorses presidential candidates) as well as doing the whole partisan bit, rather than being conveyancers of happenings and relevant background for it, potentially holding what would appear to be abhorrent world views and willing and able to espouse them further not a cause for concern?

*while here it appears as though she has denounced them and/or considers them satirical in nature there are unarguably those making the same sorts of comments as a genuine belief.

I don't like the NYT, but I'm happy at least them are putting some stop to this fad where supposedly 4chan style trolls are some kind of SJW crusaders. Yeah, hope they lose their "power" already.

Given that such things necessarily also mean a stop to the opposite then I would have to agree. I don't know how long it would have taken for "be the bigger man" to have worked and still oppose the means but I will take a good end anyway. That said compared to the other story under discussion then where that would clearly have been able to be considered a joke this is harder to see as one without what was apparently a hidden context.

 

[JellyPerson]

I guess we aren't allowed to have opinions anymore. Even if some of them could be racist or bigoted, it's still an opinion, not fact. Get over it.

 

[dAVID_]

I wouldn't make her lose her job just because of some tweets.
Though ironically James Gunn got fired for making jokes about pedophilia 10 years ago.