Hardware New system update?

pustal · Apr 6, 2016

driverdis said:
Grab this https://gbatemp.net/threads/potenti...after-downgrading.410075/page-10#post-6006406
run it and dump the log.
copy and paste the log on here.
use a decent text editor to copy the text from, not notepad.

Ok, it wasn't creating for some reason because my console clock was still on January 1970 after following the guide. I wonder if all the problems have been caused by this. Anyway, here's the log:

Code:

TitleID           Vers   Description

0004013820000002  23341  New3DS NATIVE_FIRM
0004003000009802  24576  Home Menu
0004003020009d02  07184  New3DS Internet Browser
0004013000001502  09217  AM system-module
0004013000002402  09216  AC system-module
0004013000002802  08192  Download Play system-module
0004013000002902  13318  HTTP system-module
0004013000002c02  13313  NIM system-module
0004013000002e02  08192  Sockets system-module
0004013000002f02  08198  SSL system-module
0004013000003202  10240  friends system-module
0004013000003302  12289  IR system-module
0004013000003402  13314  SpotPass system-module
0004013000003502  07168  Notifications system-module
0004013000001d02  10240  HID system-module
0004013000003702  06148  RO system-module
0004013000003802  08198  act system-module
0004013000008002  19458  NS system-module
0004013020001602  11265  New3DS Camera system-module
0004013020001c02  12294  New3DS GSP system-module
0004013020001e02  05121  New3DS i2c system-module
0004013000001702  14342  Config system-module
0004013020002202  11264  New3DS PTM system-module
0004013020004202  02052  New3DS qtm system-module
0004013020004002  07168  New3DS nfc system-module
000400300000d102  03077  appletEd
000400300000d602  16384  mint (eShop applet)
000400300000f602  03072  Miiverse memolib
000400300000c502  06145  error applet
000400300000be02  04096  Miiverse applet
000400300000d302  04096  PNOTE_AP
000400102002d000  00034  New3DS placeholder menu system-application
000400100002c100  03072  Nintendo Network ID Settings application
0004001000022a00  06155  System Transfer application
0004001000022000  09220  System Settings
0004001000022900  21505  eShop
0004001b00018002  05120  N/A
0004009b00012102  13313  N/A
0004009b00013102  07168  EULA CFA
000400db00010302  08192  NGWord bad word list CFA
000400db00010502  18432  Nintendo Zone hotspot list CFA
000400db00017102  10352  CVer
000400db20016102  00512  New3DS NVer
000480044b513956  00016  N/A-undocumented
000400300000b902  01031  amiibo Settings
0004013820000202  04816  New3DS AGB_FIRM
0004013820000003  16081  New3DS SAFE_MODE_FIRM
0004013020008003  13313  New3DS SAFE_MODE NS system-module
0004013020003303  07169  New3DS SAFE_MODE IR system-module
0004013020003203  08193  New3DS SAFE_MODE friends system-module
0004013020003103  05121  New3DS SAFE_MODE PS system-module
0004013020002f03  07169  New3DS SAFE_MODE SSL system-module
0004013020002e03  07169  New3DS SAFE_MODE Sockets system-module
0004013020002d03  10241  New3DS SAFE_MODE NWM system-module
0004013020002c03  09217  New3DS SAFE_MODE NIM system-module
0004013020002903  10241  New3DS SAFE_MODE HTTP system-module
0004013020002703  05121  New3DS SAFE_MODE CSND system-module
0004013020002403  08193  New3DS SAFE_MODE AC system-module
0004013020002303  04097  New3DS SAFE_MODE spi system-module
0004013020002203  10241  New3DS SAFE_MODE PTM system-module
0004013020002103  03073  New3DS SAFE_MODE PDN system-module
0004013020001f03  09217  New3DS SAFE_MODE MCU system-module
0004013020001e03  04097  New3DS SAFE_MODE i2c system-module
0004013020001d03  08193  New3DS SAFE_MODE HID system-module
0004013020001c03  09217  New3DS SAFE_MODE GSP system-module
0004013020001b03  03073  New3DS SAFE_MODE GPIO system-module
0004013020001a03  06145  New3DS SAFE_MODE DSP system-module
0004013020001803  07169  New3DS SAFE_MODE Codec system-module
0004013020001703  11265  New3DS SAFE_MODE Config system-module
0004013020001503  07169  New3DS SAFE_MODE AM system-module
0004009b00015102  02048  N/A
0004009b00014302  01024  TWN System Font CFA
0004009b00014202  01024  KOR System Font CFA
0004009b00014102  01024  CHN System Font CFA
0004009b00014002  00000  System Font CFA
0004009b00011d02  00000  N/A
0004009b00011c02  00000  N/A
0004009b00011b02  00000  N/A
0004009b00011802  00000  N/A
0004009b00011702  00000  N/A
0004009b00011502  00000  N/A
0004009b00011302  00000  N/A
0004009b00011202  00000  N/A
0004009b00010602  01024  Non-Nintendo TLS Root-CA Certificates CFA
0004009b00010402  05122  N/A
0004009b00010202  00000  Mii-data CFA
000400302000d003  00000  N/A
000400302000c503  01024  New3DS SAFE_MODE error applet
0004003020008a03  07169  New3DS SAFE_MODE ErrDisp
000400300000d402  02048  SNOTE_AP
000400300000d002  04096  Software Keyboard
000400300000cd02  03073  extrapad applet
000400300000ba02  00006  N/A
000400300000a002  04097  Notifications applet
0004003000009f02  06144  Friend List applet
0004003000009c02  04096  Game Notes applet
0004003000009b02  05120  Instruction Manual applet
0004003000009902  02049  Camera applet
0004001b00018202  02050  N/A
0004001b00018102  01025  N/A
0004001b00010802  02048  N/A
0004001b00010702  04096  NS CFA
0004001b00010002  00000  ClCertA
000400102002d600  00002  N/A
000400102002d400  00002  N/A
000400102002d200  00001  N/A
0004001020025100  00004  N/A
0004001020022d00  02049  N/A
0004001020022300  00001  N/A
0004001000022f00  02050  SAFE_MODE System Updater application
0004001000022e00  01040  AR Games
0004001000022b00  01034  Nintendo Zone application
0004001000022800  05122  StreetPass Mii Plaza
0004001000022700  02055  Mii Maker
0004001000022500  03088  Nintendo 3DS Sound application
0004001000022400  04097  Nintendo 3DS Camera application
0004001000022200  02064  Activity Log
0004001000022100  03073  Download Play application
0004800f484e4c41  00000  TWL Version Data
0004800f484e4841  11264  Nintendo DS Cart Whitelist
00048005484e4441  01024  Download Play (DS-mode application)
0004800542383841  02048  DS Internet (DSi-mode application)
0004013820000102  09936  New3DS TWL_FIRM
0004013020004102  01024  New3DS mvd system-module
0004013020002302  04096  New3DS spi system-module
0004013020001f02  08192  New3DS MCU system-module
0004013000003102  05120  PS system-module
0004013000002d02  10240  NWM system-module
0004013000002b02  07169  NDM system-module
0004013000002a02  02048  MP system-module
0004013000002702  05120  CSND system-module
0004013000002602  10240  StreetPass system-module
0004013000002102  02048  PDN system-module
0004013000002002  02048  Microphone system-module
0004013000001b02  03073  GPIO system-module
0004013000001a02  06145  DSP system-module
0004013000001802  07168  Codec system-module
0004003000008a02  07168  ErrDisp

Total installed titles: 138
(dsiware games, tid high 00048004, are included and will be 'N/A-undocumented')

driverdis · Apr 6, 2016

pustal said:
Ok, it wasn't creating for some reason because my console clock was still on January 1970 after following the guide. I wonder if all the problems have been caused by this. Anyway, here's the log:

grab the other log called check.log

EDIT: the contents should look like this but with your info instead of mine

Code:

[MISMATCHED VERSIONS]

TitleID  Vers: Expected Installed  Description

0004009b00010402  04098  05122  N/A
0004001b00010802  00000  01024  N/A
0004013000001b02  02048  03073  GPIO system-module
0004013000001a02  05120  06145  DSP system-module


[EXTRA TITLES]

TitleID  Vers.  Description

0004001000024000  00000  Promotional video application
0004001000025000  00000  Promotional video application
0004001000023000  00002  Promotional video application
00048000544f4f42  02048  TWL Slot-1 Booter
000400000ff40a02  00032  SaveDataFiler
000400000ff40002  00032  DevMenu
0004003000009e02  01031  amiibo Settings


[MISSING TITLES]

TitleID  Vers.  Description

pustal · Apr 6, 2016

driverdis said:

grab the other log called check.log

EDIT: the contents should look like this but with your info instead of mine

Code:

[MISMATCHED VERSIONS]

TitleID  Vers: Expected Installed  Description

0004009b00010402  04098  05122  N/A
0004001b00010802  00000  01024  N/A
0004013000001b02  02048  03073  GPIO system-module
0004013000001a02  05120  06145  DSP system-module


[EXTRA TITLES]

TitleID  Vers.  Description

0004001000024000  00000  Promotional video application
0004001000025000  00000  Promotional video application
0004001000023000  00002  Promotional video application
00048000544f4f42  02048  TWL Slot-1 Booter
000400000ff40a02  00032  SaveDataFiler
000400000ff40002  00032  DevMenu
0004003000009e02  01031  amiibo Settings


[MISSING TITLES]

TitleID  Vers.  Description

The only files I see it created is that one I posted (installedtitles.log) and title_lists.py and it doesn't look like that at all.

Edit:

Here's title_lists.py:

Code:

title_lists = {
    'my_title_list.bin': (
        (0x0004013820000002, 0x5b2d), (0x0004003000009802, 0x6000), (0x0004003020009d02, 0x1c10), (0x0004013000001502, 0x2401), (0x0004013000002402, 0x2400),
        (0x0004013000002802, 0x2000), (0x0004013000002902, 0x3406), (0x0004013000002c02, 0x3401), (0x0004013000002e02, 0x2000), (0x0004013000002f02, 0x2006),
        (0x0004013000003202, 0x2800), (0x0004013000003302, 0x3001), (0x0004013000003402, 0x3402), (0x0004013000003502, 0x1c00), (0x0004013000001d02, 0x2800),
        (0x0004013000003702, 0x1804), (0x0004013000003802, 0x2006), (0x0004013000008002, 0x4c02), (0x0004013020001602, 0x2c01), (0x0004013020001c02, 0x3006),
        (0x0004013020001e02, 0x1401), (0x0004013000001702, 0x3806), (0x0004013020002202, 0x2c00), (0x0004013020004202, 0x0804), (0x0004013020004002, 0x1c00),
        (0x000400300000d102, 0x0c05), (0x000400300000d602, 0x4000), (0x000400300000f602, 0x0c00), (0x000400300000c502, 0x1801), (0x000400300000be02, 0x1000),
        (0x000400300000d302, 0x1000), (0x000400102002d000, 0x0022), (0x000400100002c100, 0x0c00), (0x0004001000022a00, 0x180b), (0x0004001000022000, 0x2404),
        (0x0004001000022900, 0x5401), (0x0004001b00018002, 0x1400), (0x0004009b00012102, 0x3401), (0x0004009b00013102, 0x1c00), (0x000400db00010302, 0x2000),
        (0x000400db00010502, 0x4800), (0x000400db00017102, 0x2870), (0x000400db20016102, 0x0200), (0x000400300000b902, 0x0407),
        (0x0004013820000202, 0x12d0), (0x0004013820000003, 0x3ed1), (0x0004013020008003, 0x3401), (0x0004013020003303, 0x1c01), (0x0004013020003203, 0x2001),
        (0x0004013020003103, 0x1401), (0x0004013020002f03, 0x1c01), (0x0004013020002e03, 0x1c01), (0x0004013020002d03, 0x2801), (0x0004013020002c03, 0x2401),
        (0x0004013020002903, 0x2801), (0x0004013020002703, 0x1401), (0x0004013020002403, 0x2001), (0x0004013020002303, 0x1001), (0x0004013020002203, 0x2801),
        (0x0004013020002103, 0x0c01), (0x0004013020001f03, 0x2401), (0x0004013020001e03, 0x1001), (0x0004013020001d03, 0x2001), (0x0004013020001c03, 0x2401),
        (0x0004013020001b03, 0x0c01), (0x0004013020001a03, 0x1801), (0x0004013020001803, 0x1c01), (0x0004013020001703, 0x2c01), (0x0004013020001503, 0x1c01),
        (0x0004009b00015102, 0x0800), (0x0004009b00014302, 0x0400), (0x0004009b00014202, 0x0400), (0x0004009b00014102, 0x0400), (0x0004009b00014002, 0x0000),
        (0x0004009b00011d02, 0x0000), (0x0004009b00011c02, 0x0000), (0x0004009b00011b02, 0x0000), (0x0004009b00011802, 0x0000), (0x0004009b00011702, 0x0000),
        (0x0004009b00011502, 0x0000), (0x0004009b00011302, 0x0000), (0x0004009b00011202, 0x0000), (0x0004009b00010602, 0x0400), (0x0004009b00010402, 0x1402),
        (0x0004009b00010202, 0x0000), (0x000400302000d003, 0x0000), (0x000400302000c503, 0x0400), (0x0004003020008a03, 0x1c01), (0x000400300000d402, 0x0800),
        (0x000400300000d002, 0x1000), (0x000400300000cd02, 0x0c01), (0x000400300000ba02, 0x0006), (0x000400300000a002, 0x1001), (0x0004003000009f02, 0x1800),
        (0x0004003000009c02, 0x1000), (0x0004003000009b02, 0x1400), (0x0004003000009902, 0x0801), (0x0004001b00018202, 0x0802), (0x0004001b00018102, 0x0401),
        (0x0004001b00010802, 0x0800), (0x0004001b00010702, 0x1000), (0x0004001b00010002, 0x0000), (0x000400102002d600, 0x0002), (0x000400102002d400, 0x0002),
        (0x000400102002d200, 0x0001), (0x0004001020025100, 0x0004), (0x0004001020022d00, 0x0801), (0x0004001020022300, 0x0001), (0x0004001000022f00, 0x0802),
        (0x0004001000022e00, 0x0410), (0x0004001000022b00, 0x040a), (0x0004001000022800, 0x1402), (0x0004001000022700, 0x0807), (0x0004001000022500, 0x0c10),
        (0x0004001000022400, 0x1001), (0x0004001000022200, 0x0810), (0x0004001000022100, 0x0c01), (0x0004800f484e4c41, 0x0000), (0x0004800f484e4841, 0x2c00),
        (0x00048005484e4441, 0x0400), (0x0004800542383841, 0x0800), (0x0004013820000102, 0x26d0), (0x0004013020004102, 0x0400), (0x0004013020002302, 0x1000),
        (0x0004013020001f02, 0x2000), (0x0004013000003102, 0x1400), (0x0004013000002d02, 0x2800), (0x0004013000002b02, 0x1c01), (0x0004013000002a02, 0x0800),
        (0x0004013000002702, 0x1400), (0x0004013000002602, 0x2800), (0x0004013000002102, 0x0800), (0x0004013000002002, 0x0800), (0x0004013000001b02, 0x0c01),
        (0x0004013000001a02, 0x1801), (0x0004013000001802, 0x1c00), (0x0004003000008a02, 0x1c00),
    ),
}

driverdis · Apr 6, 2016

pustal said:
The only files I see it created is that one I posted (installedtitles.log) and title_lists.py and it doesn't look like that at all.

when you run the homebrew, do this
Press (A) to check titles
Press (X) to output titles to file
this should generate check.log

pustal · Apr 6, 2016

driverdis said:
when you run the homebrew, do this
Press (A) to check titles
Press (X) to output titles to file
this should generate check.log

It is not doing it :S

When I press (A) should I not see some output on the screen as well? If I press (A) it shows nothing, then press (X) and still have the same files.

driverdis · Apr 6, 2016

pustal said:
It is not doing it :S

When I press (A) should I not see some output on the screen as well?

did you copy all the files needed to run it?
it should have several bin files along with the smdh and 3dsx files in the folder.

pustal · Apr 6, 2016

Think so, copied all again, so result. Here's the list:

driverdis · Apr 6, 2016

pustal said:
Think so, copied all again, so result. Here's the list:

when you press A, it should say "checking installed files"
then shows you a list with [MISMATCHED VERSIONS] on the top.
EDIT:
I am stupid, this will not work for you as you are not on 9.2
I will see if any bin files exist for a 3ds on 10.7

pustal · Apr 6, 2016

driverdis said:
that i

when you press A, it should say "checking installed files"
then shows you a list with [MISMATCHED VERSIONS] on the top.

*same result.

When I press (A), for a split second I see a black screen and no output, and then the options again.

--------------------- MERGED ---------------------------

driverdis said:
EDIT:
I am stupid, this will not work for you as you are not on 9.2
I will see if any bin files exist for a 3ds on 10.7

Oh, makes sense. Alright, thank you.

driverdis · Apr 6, 2016

pustal said:
*same result.

When I press (A), for a split second I see a black screen and no output, and then the options again.

It seems I can generate a bin file for you to use as long as I know which console region, old or new 3ds model, and the firmware version you are running this checker tool on

pustal · Apr 6, 2016

driverdis said:
It seems I can generate a bin file for you to use as long as I know which console region, old or new 3ds model, and the firmware version you are running this checker tool on

New 3DS XL, European version, 10.7.0-32E

pustal · Apr 6, 2016

driverdis said:
It seems I can generate a bin file for you to use as long as I know which console region, old or new 3ds model, and the firmware version you are running this checker tool on

I've been checking, and I think I found a pattern. The applications that give me this problem are US or JP, European don't. Still odd, considering that on my Old 3DS it updates / go online without a problem whatever the region is. Aside from the different console versions, the other differences are:

New 3DS: RedNAND made after a downgrade with clock system set 1/1/1970, only used with Cakes FW before, now AuReiNAND

Old 3DS: EmuNAND from system version 9.2 never downgraded, used with rxTools 3.0 before, now also AuReiNand.

driverdis · Apr 6, 2016

pustal said:
I've been checking, and I think I found a pattern. The applications that give me this problem are US or JP, European don't. Still odd, considering that on my Old 3DS it updates / go online without a problem whatever the region is. Aside from the different console versions, the other differences are:

Code:

New 3DS

does your firmware version end in E, U, or J

Olmectron · Apr 6, 2016

pustal said:
I've been checking, and I think I found a pattern. The applications that give me this problem are US or JP, European don't. Still odd, considering that on my Old 3DS it updates / go online without a problem whatever the region is. Aside from the different console versions, the other differences are:

Code:

New 3DS

So, are USA or JPN games those which prompt you to update them?

That's completely a COMMON and EXPECTED behavior. Since you cannot download an American update from an European console.

If you're talking about the eShop prompting for update when starting it, that would the issue.

Edit: Oh, and if the games are those prompting the updates, those are updates for the games, not update for the console firmware.

pustal · Apr 6, 2016

driverdis said:
does your firmware version end in E, U, or J

E

Olmectron said:
So, are USA or JPN games those which prompt you to update them?

That's completely a COMMON and EXPECTED behavior. Since you cannot download an American update from an European console.

If you're talking about the eShop prompting for update when starting it, that would the issue.

Edit: Oh, and if the games are those prompting the updates, those are updates for the games, not update for the console firmware.

Edit: Tried delete the updates and re-update a game on sysNAND, also happen on the Old 3DS, I see now. I did update back on rxTools on emuNAND, they must have added something to that CFW, no?

Olmectron said:
Edit: Oh, and if the games are those prompting the updates, those are updates for the games, not update for the console firmware.

Yes, it prompts me to update the game and when it tries to, then it asks me for a system update.

Olmectron · Apr 6, 2016

pustal said:
E

How come it update on my Old 3DS then?

Yes, it prompts me to update the game and when it tries to, then it asks me for a system update.

That's a strange issue.

However, if you say that happens only with American and Japanese games while your console is European, simply don't try to update them through the eShop. It will never work, even if the eShop didn't prompt for an update when getting the game update, the game update would simply fail. If you want to update out of region games, you should install the CIA files of their updates.

You say European games doesn't have the issue, so they do update as expected, right? So, everything should go fine with your console.

Edit: Now, if the eShop prompts for a new firmware update, even when you're trying to update an European game, that's a real issue.

pustal · Apr 6, 2016

Olmectron said:
That's a strange issue.

However, if you say that happens only with American and Japanese games while your console is European, simply don't try to update them through the eShop. It will never work, even if the eShop didn't prompt for an update when getting the game update, the game update would simply fail. If you want to update out of region games, you should install the CIA files of their updates.

You say European games doesn't have the issue, so they do update as expected, right? So, everything should go fine with your console.

Yes, seems fine. Didn't edited last comment on time: Tried delete the updates and re-update a game on sysNAND, also happen on the Old 3DS, I see now. It did update back on rxTools on emuNAND, they must have added something to that CFW, no?

Olmectron · Apr 6, 2016

pustal said:
Yes, seems fine. Didn't edited last comment on time: Tried delete the updates and re-update a game on sysNAND, also happen on the Old 3DS, I see now. It did update back on rxTools on emuNAND, they must have added something to that CFW, no?

Sorry? I didn't understand your question about rxTools. However, anything CFW related shouldn't have any effect on updates (only if the CFW is out dated, it wouldn't load emunand).

No matter if you're on SysNAND or EmuNAND or RedNAND. This is always true on both O3DS and N3DS:

You can't install out of region game updates directly from your console's eShop, no matter if the games are region-free patched, nor if they work online. You will need to find the updates as CIA files for installing them.

You can install game updates directly from your console's eShop for games of your own region.

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