New 3ds Gateway or CFW

Discussion in '3DS - Flashcards & Custom Firmwares' started by rusty_train, Nov 13, 2015.

  1. rusty_train

    rusty_train GBAtemp Regular

    Mar 25, 2013

    i currently using the Gateway but i seen some of these CFW, so i was wondering, should i stick with gateway, or should i use CFW?

    what are the advantages/disadvantages?
  2. andzalot55

    andzalot55 I'm very delicious. mmmm.

    Nov 14, 2014
    Mc Donalds.
    I recommend CFW; more specifically rxTools cause coldboot.
  3. Reisyukaku

    Reisyukaku Onii-sama~

    Feb 11, 2014
    United States
    GW pros:
    can play games off flash cart
    GW cons:
    costs money

    CFW pros:
    no DRM
    CFW cons:
    none can use GW red card

    otherwise they are about the same. I'd say for N3DS, use anything but rxtools because its coded poorly. your only other options are cakes and reinand.
    All CFW can cold boot lol
    Last edited by Reisyukaku, Nov 13, 2015
  4. zoogie

    zoogie playing around in the dsiware

    Nov 30, 2014
    Micronesia, Federated States of
    Probably the best reason for GW is ease of setup and use. It's noob friendly.
    Best case for CFW is free free free - the pirate way. :P
  5. daxtsu

    daxtsu GBAtemp Guru

    Jun 9, 2007
    Here's one more pro for Gateway: You can use the latest eShop CIA and Free Multi Patcher (along with installing the newest nver CIA), so you don't need to use HANS to get on the eShop. CFW is still stuck with the old eShop at the moment, thus needing HANS.
  6. tony_2018

    tony_2018 GBAtemp Psycho!

    Jan 3, 2014
    United States
    These questions will never end....
  7. ground

    ground GBAtemp Advanced Fan

    Mar 22, 2007
    i would prefer a CFW over gateway. Mostly because the available cfw's are open source and gateway is not ;)
  8. WiiUBricker

    WiiUBricker Insert Custom Title

    Sep 19, 2009
    Neither statements like yours....
  9. Hayleia

    Hayleia GBAtemp Maniac

    Feb 26, 2015
    I was using the Gateway for a long time but switched to CFW (rxTools) because It suited my needs a lot better since I use retail cartridges a lot more often than whatever "hacks" you can find. Which means that :
    1. it is annoying to swap cartridges everytime when I want to boot my 3DS (doesn't apply to pirates who only play games in .3ds format on their red cart)
    2. it is annoying for me to get game updates when GW doesn't support the latest firmware (doesn't apply to pirates who can just download and install a cia on GW mode, but I can't do that in Classic mode, and CFW only have one "GW+Classic" mode so I can do it on rxTools)
    3. cartridge savegames are compatible with everything, like SaveDataFiler, non-hacked 3DS, etc (but if you use Classic mode on GW on your Old 3DS downgraded to 4.5 for MSET, your cartridge savegames will only be usable on another GW'd 3DS on 4.5 in Classic mode, not on a non-hacked 3DS, not on a CFW'd 3DS on 9.2, not with SaveDataFiler, not with anything else, but you can probably disregard this since you are on a New 3DS so I don't know about the compatibility)
    And for advantages that apply to everyone, not just me :
    1. coldboot, no need to boot once then go to Settings→etc, which also means that if someone boots your 3DS, they have a lot less chance to update your sysNAND (since they automatically land in emuNAND)
    2. homebrew is a lot better supported since once you setup menuhax, you can choose between sysNAND, CFW and HBL (and other things if you want) at boot using any boot manager you like, while with GW, you only have GW (which allows Cubic Ninja in .3ds format, true, but that means you kind of have to boot your 3DS three times only to run Minicraft...)
    Just don't foget to install a cia manager on your emuNAND before switching to a CFW. Actually you don't really care, you can do it after switching too, but it's just better to do it before so you don't have to do it after :P

    I don't see what prevents you from installing the latest eShop, nVer and Free Multi Patcher on a CFW too once you installed a cia manager on your emuNAND...
    Last edited by Hayleia, Nov 13, 2015
  10. Aroth

    Aroth GBAtemp Addict

    Apr 14, 2015
    United States
    If you try installing the latest eShop on the N3DS while still on 9.5 emunand and using anything OTHER than GW, the title will not boot because it is expecting to see 10.0, not 9.5. It actually just sits on the back screen with the red 3DS logo.

    GW doesnt have this problem because of the way it handles spoofing the firmware to play newer titles on lower firmwares. Not sure what they are doing, but whatever it is, it's something that CFW devs haven't figured out or at least been able to get working reliably enough to add it.

    NVer installs just fine and is, in fact, the only solution for signing into NNID on CFW with the N3DS atm. I supposed installing both NVer and CVer would allow the latest eShop version to boot, allowing CFW users to just use FMP, but tbh the fewer oddball title versions you have to install the better.
    nccom and Hayleia like this.
  11. Hayleia

    Hayleia GBAtemp Maniac

    Feb 26, 2015
    Ok, thanks for the explanation. I guess it's hard for me to follow all non-homebrew hacks if I stay on the legal path...
  12. xabier

    xabier GBAtemp Regular

    Dec 10, 2006
    On n3ds gateway is a good add on to cfw, you can access eshop( dowloading tiger cia) and out of region games and dlc work properly as opposed to cfw on n3ds.

    My n3ds is setup with rxtools coldboot, for specific occasions i use gateway (eshop and out of region games with patches)
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