Neimod has full kernel control from an unmodified 3DS

[pasc]

This is entirely true, piracy is bound to happen.
But I imagine how neimod feels, in the pursuit of seeking to run unsigned code, is that he wants to take actions to prevent piracy from happening.
Maybe it's a moral viewpoint or some other personal reason, but the 3DS has a good life ahead of it right now and progress can always wait until a bit later in the 3DS's lifespan. For it to face serious piracy issues now would not be good for the system.

Where a few might pursue running some homebrew, where many developers may lose sales to piracy, it would be selfish of the homebrew scene, do you know what I mean?

Yet I found it funny how the DS had FAR LESS cancelled games than the GBA even thought piracy was around...

 

[Deleted-188346]

How about somebody makes a thread called "Piracy: Yes or no?" and we can just funnel these arguments there.
Quite frankly, I would like to hear about Neimods actual progress.

 

[jalaneme]

what a load of rubbish, so they find "someting" and say they will never release it which prooves that they have jack sheet hacked, what a bunch of attention seekers. watch this topic die quickly like always.

 

[Pong20302000]

How about somebody makes a thread called "Piracy: Yes or no?" and we can just funnel these arguments there.
Quite frankly, I would like to hear about Neimods actual progress.

doesn't matter what others think
neimod is in it for the homebrew, hes not doing it for piracy
so no matter if 1 millions noobs go "I'm a tightwad and want hacks"
its for the homebrew community so they have a system where they can make 3D homebrew games and that people can play around with developing little games
if people so badly want hacks get that 2000 donated so the chip can be decapped and then they can look into an emulator

 

[Deleted-188346]

doesn't matter what others think
neimod is in it for the homebrew, hes not doing it for piracy
so no matter if 1 millions noobs go "I'm a tightwad and want hacks"
its for the homebrew community so they have a system where they can make 3D homebrew games and that people can play around with developing little games
if people so badly want hacks get that 2000 donated so the chip can be decapped and then they can look into an emulator

Of course Neimod won't care about what others think about piracy, and there is nothing wrong with that. He's in a position where he can make his own personal choice about how his work is used.

I just want to hear about the hack, and not inane arguments about piracy and its effects.

Oh, and the PSP. Why is the PSP being mentioned? How more off topic could this possibly get? Next thing we'll be talking about how toilet paper has remained the same throughout history.

 

[pwsincd]

Not being knowledgeable enough to know but, if the kernel hack allows full access of the system, wouldn't the fact that the 3DS has a SD slot kinda negate the use of flashcards (eventually)?

I know that suggestion is in keeping with all other "people getting ahead of themselves posts" but it seems like the obvious route to take for homebrew.

 

[McHaggis]

Need to get my 3DS in for repair before the hack is released, or after the hack is released but before Nintendo have a chance to patch it and update my console to the latest firmware.

 

[Rizsparky]

Not being knowledgeable enough to know but, if the kernel hack allows full access of the system, wouldn't the fact that the 3DS has a SD slot kinda negate the use of flashcards (eventually)?

I know that suggestion is in keeping with all other "people getting ahead of themselves posts" but it seems like the obvious route to take for homebrew.

Yeah, something similar to SD card usage on the Wii

 

[Coto]

Yes, take the advice of the man who can't spell wannabe and delete all of your work this instant, neimod. This guy's clearly an expert on the ethics of console hacking.

I'm not giving any advice, just an opinion. If you feel emotional about it, go do something better than crying about my english, which is far for perfect.
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I respect neimod, but the 3DS should stay unhacked for now.

 

[ferofax]

inb4 wellthatescalatedquickly.jpg
Also, a "piracy free" exploit is nigh impossible. Someone, somewhere, will find a way to enable piracy if homebrew is enabled. This is a given.

DSi would like to say hi. Nobody found a way to pirate DSiware. At least, nobody cared to. Which is good in my book, 'cause I'm also an elitist bastard, lol.

 

[FAST6191]

The (unfounded) bitterness in this thread from all points in the spectrum is at once delicious and cringe inducing.

Still- Datel and similar such companies- those people are actually reasonably well liked among a lot of the "proper" hacker community as they employ a bunch of them in various capacities, do actual research (though occasionally they do owe more than a passing nod to various homebrew communities) and put out tools that most small groups of hackers both find useful and would be extremely hard pressed to replicate (they faked optical media on several occasions which is no trivial feat). Certainly some of their actions may cause eyebrows to be raised on occasion but you would be hard pressed to find anyone the would be hacker community is inclined to take note of that calls them a truly negative force.

SD card launching. Bus speeds aside any medium by which data can be transferred is certainly a viable proposition. Whether it is ultimately useful is an entirely different matter and I can well see homebrew working a treat from one but commercial games needing to be so very heavily patched as to make the effort not really worth it (though I agree similar things were said about the "hundreds of binary hash checks" DS AP method and we all know how that turned out).

Edit: re bog roll staying the same over the years. Ignoring parts of the world that do not use it I can certainly make a case of it changing somewhat without going into the scratchy/layered world by pointing at the stuff I can only describe as resembling greaseproof paper in paper hand towel form, in a similar box no less, that I was greeted with in my youth in trips to the houses of various elderly relatives.

 

[Qtis]

Interesting development. I'd get it just for the fact that I wouldn't need another 3DS for possible imports. Oh well..

 

[Qtis]

DSi would like to say hi. Nobody found a way to pirate DSiware. At least, nobody cared to. Which is good in my book, 'cause I'm also an elitist bastard, lol.

I think the fact that the DSi didn't have any real exclusives that didn't work in DS mode added more to the effort of not needing a DSi exploit. Also DSiware was pretty much a huge black hole with only a couple of close to decent titles.

 

[pokefloote]

Neimod only says that "elitist bastard" stuff because a lot of people call him that for no reason, he's poking fun at himself. With every hack rumor, someone says "they don't want to release it, they're keeping it for themselves. how selfish." so he's joking about that now.

So shut up about it unless you guys enjoy self fulfilling prophecies.

 

[frown]

Perhaps with kernel access available on the 3DS, an exploit for DSi mode could be found.
I mean, if anyone still cares about having DSi access in the light of having 3DS access.

 

[jalaneme]

Need to get my 3DS in for repair before the hack is released, or after the hack is released but before Nintendo have a chance to patch it and update my console to the latest firmware.

that is IF anything gets released at all and it seems unlikely.

 

[McHaggis]

that is IF anything gets released at all and it seems unlikely.

With a kernel exploit a release is looking more likely. Yes, it will be fixed but you can't hold onto an exploit forever just because it's fixable.

 

[tysonrss]

Yet I found it funny how the DS had FAR LESS cancelled games than the GBA even thought piracy was around...

3DS has plenty of cancelled titles. Which is sad.

 

[Luckkill4u]

With a kernel exploit a release is looking more likely. Yes, it will be fixed but you can't hold onto an exploit forever just because it's fixable.

A release would give the ability to other hackers to have a better understanding of the 3DS. It could cause more exploits in the future so a fixable exploit isn't the worst problem yet. Hell nobody knows if this exploit is possible without vast amounts of hardware. Well unless you have a custom ram dumping setup laying around.

 

[DiscostewSM]

If they were able to just get region locking disabled and unsigned homebrew code working, then that would make my day. I'd prefer piracy to remain out of the loop for at least a couple more years.