NDSSFC/CATSFC revival

Yeah, I have a recording that I posted if you wanted to compare the two spectrograms from the emulators (posted it in my last post). Nobuo Uematsu made quite the soundtrack, and both this and Chrono Trigger pushed the limits of the Snes sound processor. But I listened to your recording as well and it sounds better than the last one you recorded, but again, I don't know how the timing can be corrected. In case you missed it for some reason, here it is http://www.mediafire.com/?au1559upqvlsylg

I have a real Snes at my parent's house and if I can a way to hook it up to a PC, I can test FF6 and Chrono Trigger.

Let me know how it goes

 

Hunh... CATSFC is slower this time around.



It's not just the end, you can see from the louder parts too. There's definitely some slowdown, speedup, and catchup in the various recordings I've done.

FF3 leftright comparison
http://www.mediafire.com/?u0uoz0k5dplpcc5

 

So right now, we shouldn't test more audio files? Any suggestions on how we should continue contributing in some way?


Edit: Oops, just got ninja'd by Rydian

 

Well I could plug my computer's headphone jack into it's own mic jack if that counts?

But yeah, I haven't had a working SNES in far too long to be able to do this.

 

I have a working Snes (I think, or at least a working Super Famicom), along with Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy 3/6, but what do I need to connect it to my PC and record it with Audacity? Did we just hit a stalemate as far as testing and are essentially SOL?

 

I don't actually know what sort of outputs the SNES has anymore... If it's just RCA you'd need a capture card, if it has headphone output you could just get one of these and do what I did with the DS.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10218&cs_id=1021816&p_id=9765&seq=1&format=2
3.5mm (1/8th inch) stereo male-to-male audio cable.

 

The Snes uses RCA/S-video cables (composite) for it's audio/video output. Capture card huh? Crap, don't have one of those, I think. Looks like we're SOL then. So much for me wanting to help Nebuleon. Guess it was in vain.

Edit: Ninja'd by Nebuleon.

Then that means those tests were in vain, as I've no capture card but an Snes, so I can't record from those games. Guess my help with the recording wasn't helpful.

Bollocks.

 

would A 3Ds recording be digital as it's simulated ds

 

Dammit, guess I can't help after all if we can't do meaningful comparison/ABX testing between emulators

 

Well the testing shows that the sound emulation...
1 - Has improved in accuracy.
2 - Does Stereo just fine.
3 - Matches the displayed frames.

Personally, 3 is the important bit as far as I'm concerned. Some of the sounds could be 0.3 seconds behind when the SNES would play them, but I didn't even notice until comparing the waveforms because they match what's being displayed on the DS at the time.

 

Game runs amazing in 1.30, as do all the other games compared to any of the other previous versions.
A minor summary since I think I've tried every (at least notable) SNES emulators on the DS.

CATSFC 1.01 (When it was taken over by Shad for a while) - Normal games ran with minor lag, about 5%-10% slower compared to BAGSFC. But it was superior to BAGSFC when it came to performance hungry games such as Mario RPG / StarFox etc. This was the first time Mario RPG was actually playable on the DS to some extent.

BAGSFC - Ran normal games very good. Not perfect, but to a very playable state. Games such as Starfox / Mario RPG. Was pretty much unplayable.

CATSFC+ (When taken over by you, so I'll add a little +) - Is in an amazing state atm. It runs normal games to an extent where some are even playable with 0 frameskip and not ever having to go over 1 frameskip unless special cases like Starfox.
Additionally, the performance hungry games like Mario RPG / Starfox runs amazing compared to CATSFC 1.01 (which at that point I thought 'this is probably as good as it will ever get on the DS') and your previous versions.

SNEmul - When it comes to speed (in normal games), this is the only one that actually in some rare cases performs better. But due to random compatibility and having to play around with layers. CATSFC+ is by far superior to it overall.

Hope you enjoyed the reading and the summary.

As for something completely different. This is another case of the display area I've mentioned before.
I decided to give Super Mario Bros 1 (Through Super Mario All-Stars) a go for the nostalgia trip and here's how Middle aspect ratio looks like (screenshot through the emulator):



There's one hole in this screen and you will notice it after eventually checking the screen properly. But on the DS and while you're actually playing. It is by far more difficult to notice.
So at this point I can either play with Bottom screen aspect ratio and pretty much cut a big portion of the top screen or play in full screen mode and have performance cut by about 30%.

It's not a big deal as this rarely happens, but for example in that case. I would kill to be able to lower the screen like 3 pixels so I could actually see it properly

Keep up the good work as always!

 

Now then, seems my tests were useless, NDSSSFC will never have the accuracy of the Windows port....time for me to make like a hockey player and get the puck out.


Good day.

 

I wish my audio tests weren't in vain....

 

Well, I wasn't sure is all.

 

Awesome work, this keeps getting better and better. I hope there will be some more speed improvements in the future! I wouldn't get my hopes up about getting the NDSGBA source though, Supercard has ignored every request for it so far. (Even though it legally should be released, seeing as it uses GPL code)