Homebrew Minecraft DS (in 3D !)

[lucasade]

Anyway, started working on that menu tonight, here's how it looks so far :

That's with full day/night cycle, clouds, stars etc. And you can't really see it on this screenshot, but while the top screen is in daytime, the bottom screen is in night time etc.

Thats awsome

what about using the menu buttons from like page 21? They will work well with that background.
Also, are both of the screens separate rendered?!

Amazing stuph, if they are.

QUOTE(Scathraax @ Aug 5 2011, 06:56 AM) I've only had about a half hour total with the demo, before and after work today.

Did manage to find the goofy collision/super jump glitch that's been mentioned, and once managed to crash everything when I tried to place a torch next to an open space at the end of the map in a cave I was in.. But I didn't have time to get any pictures of the error codes.

I've reset my stats and map files, to get a fresh start tomorrow when I get a chance to play. Plan on building for hours, and wandering about screwing around.

I shall report back, and send you my stats ASAP.


[edit] Also, why can we rotate the camera all the way around? I got all sorts of confused when the ground was up, and the sky was down on screen.

You should try finding a path between two distant places via the caves

Thats what I'm doing, alothough it crashed last night. Good job I saved 30 seconds beforehand

As for rotation..do you mean you can rotate the camera 360 degrees as if you were leaning around a corner in like Call Of Duty??

 

[Cyan]

If the map compress fine, I just thought maybe you could compress it?
I remember PocketNes development, Loopy used LZ77 for Sram file de/compression. He said it didn't require a lot of RAM/CPU to compress, and decompression could be done on the fly (well for GBA it was fast enough to be unnoticed, but it was only few kb file).
Maybe it's not a good idea with 32+MB map file

I don't know if you can directly read/save into the LZ77 format instead of re-compressing all the file each time.
It's maybe not a viable solution for big file (and may be corrupted more easily?) but I remembered pocktnes feature and wanted to share it

 

[Bmcs]

 

[smealum]

I've only had about a half hour total with the demo, before and after work today.

Did manage to find the goofy collision/super jump glitch that's been mentioned, and once managed to crash everything when I tried to place a torch next to an open space at the end of the map in a cave I was in.. But I didn't have time to get any pictures of the error codes.

I've reset my stats and map files, to get a fresh start tomorrow when I get a chance to play. Plan on building for hours, and wandering about screwing around.

I shall report back, and send you my stats ASAP.


[edit] Also, why can we rotate the camera all the way around? I got all sorts of confused when the ground was up, and the sky was down on screen.

Yeah, don't worry about the error code since I know this bug, I know what causes it so no problem there.

And yeah, it's possible to make 360 rotations right now, haven't put any limits in place yet.

Man Smealum I really want to donate, but I do not have a credit card! Sorry

No problem, don't worry about it.

Also, are both of the screens separate rendered?!

Amazing stuph, if they are.

Yeah, those are two unrelated scenes being rendered in real time.

QUOTE(Cyan @ Aug 5 2011, 10:44 AM)

If the map compress fine, I just thought maybe you could compress it?
I remember PocketNes development, Loopy used LZ77 for Sram file de/compression. He said it didn't require a lot of RAM/CPU to compress, and decompression could be done on the fly (well for GBA it was fast enough to be unnoticed, but it was only few kb file).
Maybe it's not a good idea with 32+MB map file

I don't know if you can directly read/save into the LZ77 format instead of re-compressing all the file each time.
It's maybe not a viable solution for big file (and may be corrupted more easily?) but I remembered pocktnes feature and wanted to share it

Well you know, I actually thought about that when I saw how small compression made my map files. Unfortunately, the way things work right now, I *need* maps to be that big for streaming to be fast enough; the way I do things can't work otherwise.
One solution though would be to decompress the file before playing and recompress it after playing... But I'm pretty sure the DS would take a while to compress a 32MB file, let alone 128MB. :/

@Bmcs : that's pretty nice, I like those buttons (are those from the gui.png in eldpack ?). Not sure the DScraft *needs* to be moved though, but anyway this is just a work in progress, so who cares.

Anyway, fixed a few things, starting with collisions; it's now impossible see through blocks by getting too close to them

More importantly though, I just started working on making water dynamic and... well, I'm still not sure whether it's feasible. I do have something working already, but I have to do some more testing to be sure whether or not I can get this going without it suffering from any slowdowns.
I still made a screenshot of a waterfall I made to test it though :

 

[Bmcs]

@Bmcs : that's pretty nice, I like those buttons (are those from the gui.png in eldpack ?). Not sure the DScraft *needs* to be moved though, but anyway this is just a work in progress, so who cares.

Yes, they are from eldpack...

I moved the DScraft because i though it stays better in that place, but, well, i give a lot of importance to the aesthetics of things, so, everything i do is because in my mind it stays better that way

As long as i don't bother anyone...i will continue to give out my ideas...

Oh, and that waterfall...

 

[lucasade]

I've only had about a half hour total with the demo, before and after work today.

Did manage to find the goofy collision/super jump glitch that's been mentioned, and once managed to crash everything when I tried to place a torch next to an open space at the end of the map in a cave I was in.. But I didn't have time to get any pictures of the error codes.

I've reset my stats and map files, to get a fresh start tomorrow when I get a chance to play. Plan on building for hours, and wandering about screwing around.

I shall report back, and send you my stats ASAP.


[edit] Also, why can we rotate the camera all the way around? I got all sorts of confused when the ground was up, and the sky was down on screen.

Yeah, don't worry about the error code since I know this bug, I know what causes it so no problem there.

And yeah, it's possible to make 360 rotations right now, haven't put any limits in place yet.

Man Smealum I really want to donate, but I do not have a credit card! Sorry

No problem, don't worry about it.

Also, are both of the screens separate rendered?!

Amazing stuph, if they are.
Yeah, those are two unrelated scenes being rendered in real time.

If the map compress fine, I just thought maybe you could compress it?
I remember PocketNes development, Loopy used LZ77 for Sram file de/compression. He said it didn't require a lot of RAM/CPU to compress, and decompression could be done on the fly (well for GBA it was fast enough to be unnoticed, but it was only few kb file).
Maybe it's not a good idea with 32+MB map file

I don't know if you can directly read/save into the LZ77 format instead of re-compressing all the file each time.
It's maybe not a viable solution for big file (and may be corrupted more easily?) but I remembered pocktnes feature and wanted to share it

Well you know, I actually thought about that when I saw how small compression made my map files. Unfortunately, the way things work right now, I *need* maps to be that big for streaming to be fast enough; the way I do things can't work otherwise.
One solution though would be to decompress the file before playing and recompress it after playing... But I'm pretty sure the DS would take a while to compress a 32MB file, let alone 128MB. :/

@Bmcs : that's pretty nice, I like those buttons (are those from the gui.png in eldpack ?). Not sure the DScraft *needs* to be moved though, but anyway this is just a work in progress, so who cares.

Anyway, fixed a few things, starting with collisions; it's now impossible see through blocks by getting too close to them

More importantly though, I just started working on making water dynamic and... well, I'm still not sure whether it's feasible. I do have something working already, but I have to do some more testing to be sure whether or not I can get this going without it suffering from any slowdowns.
I still made a screenshot of a waterfall I made to test it though :

Yay and Awwww about the collision things. YaY Its fixed, awwww i cant cheat when finding caves

Yay all the way about the dynamic water. How did you end up doing it? I'm just interested

Have you any ideas of things that we will be able to change in the options menu?

QUOTE(Bmcs @ Aug 5 2011, 10:23 AM)

QUOTE(smealum @ Aug 5 2011, 10:12 AM)

@Bmcs : that's pretty nice, I like those buttons (are those from the gui.png in eldpack ?). Not sure the DScraft *needs* to be moved though, but anyway this is just a work in progress, so who cares.

Yes, they are from eldpack...

I moved the DScraft because i though it stays better in that place, but, well, i give a lot of importance to the aesthetics of things, so, everything i do is because in my mind it stays better that way

As long as i don't bother anyone...i will continue to give out my ideas...

Oh, and that waterfall...

Looking good, and maybe if 'DSCraft' was actually a cloud, that did move, it would work better. Then every time it leaves the screen, the clouds coming in form to it again, so it never really disappears. But then again...text is fine

BTW: Were those guru meditation error codes helpful smealum? It hasn't happened since. Maybe it was the fact I had at least 50~75 torches placed.

 

[IDaNL]

what do you think:

 

[boombox]

Can we download this yet?

 

[IDaNL]

Can we download this yet?

nope, only beta testers have it

 

[lucasade]

what do you think:

Lol, that would do great as player model

Those are cool. If I go to create something awsome, it will probably be something architectural, like a house or bridge or car. I might try it later.

 

[corenting]

I played a bit with demo and i sent you a PM smealum.
It looks very good,and the only bug i had was the super-jump one...
So keep up the good work !

When i wrote the PM i didn't see that the bug were we could see throught blocks was fixed, so forget that

 

[IDaNL]

what do you think:

Lol, that would do great as player model

Those are cool. If I go to create something awsome, it will probably be something architectural, like a house or bridge or car. I might try it later.

thanks, but it is very big. 4X8X34

 

[CannonFoddr]

I'm sorry, I don't need anymore testers, hope you understand.

Dam - & there's me hoping to do a video of this to show the current state of it

@ smealum: Still - just a suggestion though... how about on first post you mention which cards it's been tested on so far,
Anyone who has a different card could put their names forward as a BETA tester and when you're ready to release a 'proper' version, you could PM them to try it out on those cards

Also how about a bug list also on the first post, saves people who ARE testing it repeating the same bugs that have been found already

 

[lucasade]

what do you think:

Lol, that would do great as player model

Those are cool. If I go to create something awsome, it will probably be something architectural, like a house or bridge or car. I might try it later.

thanks, but it is very big. 4X8X34

I know, I was being sarcastic.
QUOTE(CannonFoddr @ Aug 5 2011, 12:28 PM) QUOTE(smealum @ Aug 5 2011, 05:17 AM)

I'm sorry, I don't need anymore testers, hope you understand.

Dam - & there's me hoping to do a video of this to show the current state of it

@ smealum: Still - just a suggestion though... how about on first post you mention which cards it's been tested on so far,
Anyone who has a different card could put their names forward as a BETA tester and when you're ready to release a 'proper' version, you could PM them to try it out on those cards

Also how about a bug list also on the first post, saves people who ARE testing it repeating the same bugs that have been found already

I was thinking about ideas of bugtracking too. The best way to do it for free and for now, would be to create a wiki page of bugs that all testers can edit/add to. And also a list of cards tested in same place. Watcha think, smealum?

EDIT: OH! We could use the Workspace! I will set it up on my account for ALL Beta testers in the CC of the download message (and smealum

)

 

[Bmcs]

I knew i had a big question to make that no one had made.

Smealum, what about sound? Sound of walking in the different areas....sound of braking blocks....sound of placing blocks....etc....

Is that important? No, it's not....

But lets just call it, a "plus" to the game IF it's possible to do....


EDIT: Here i go again, playing with some textures

And this one looks damn good..

(i'm just testing some textures to see how the game reacts)

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[scott1982]

This really caught my interest, I love Minecraft and will definitely be testing this out.

 

[Ray =D]

I knew i had a big question to make that no one had made.

Smealum, what about sound? Sound of walking in the different areas....sound of braking blocks....sound of placing blocks....etc....

Is that important? No, it's not....

But lets just call it, a "plus" to the game IF it's possible to do....


EDIT: Here i go again, playing with some textures

And this one looks damn good..

How can you allways edit the textures??

 

[junkerde]

if u no add wifi support, i no support U!

 

[Bmcs]

I knew i had a big question to make that no one had made.

Smealum, what about sound? Sound of walking in the different areas....sound of braking blocks....sound of placing blocks....etc....

Is that important? No, it's not....

But lets just call it, a "plus" to the game IF it's possible to do....


EDIT: Here i go again, playing with some textures

And this one looks damn good..

How can you allways edit the textures??

Well, let's just say that i have my ways of doing that....but i'm not sure if i should explain how, at least for now...

Don't get me wrong, but, i use my methods just because i'm a curious person, and there's a lot of people who could use them for other reasons...

Let's not forget that this is smealum's project...

 

[Jamstruth]

if u no add wifi support, i no support U!

if u no realise how hard that is, U r fool.

Seriously. Its hard enough to code a SINGLE player game like this from the ground up. You notice most Homebrew is 2D? That is because its a LOT easier a challenge to be taken on by one guy in his spare time. Notch has as whole team working on Minecraft now. You really want Smealum to code a server program for PC and some way for multiplayer survival mode to work in the confines of DS RAM and hardware? All on his own? Really?! Get out.