Hardware Mig Switch on Switch 2

[Prof0nWear]

Did you try it on anything other than 1.2.0?

No.

 

[xps2]

Hello xps! Are the Zelda Switch 2 Enhanced Editions compatible?

Does it turn a SW2 version with only install the masters update or you have to buy the package on the eshop?

Thank you mate!!

what do you mean ?

Zelda Switch 2 Enhanced Editions game is ver 1.7.0 out the box no need update 1.8.1

you can play it on system 20.11 or 20.1.5

 

[dovahkiing]

Some of us have used MiG dumper dumps and are not banned. Please, read all the comments. fw 1.19 doesn't seem to be a factor, using MiG dumper made dumps doesn't seem to be a factor. Having used the original cartridge before the MiG Flash cartridge MAY be a factor, seems to be for some of us.

I don't have the dumper, but I'm curious: Do dumps of the same cartridge between the MiG dumper tool and the MiG Homebrew app have the same hash?

 

[Locutus73]

I don't have the dumper, but I'm curious: Do dumps of the same cartridge between the MiG dumper tool and the MiG Homebrew app have the same hash?

Nope, the usb dumper produces trimmed dumps, the MIG homebrew produces untrimmed ones.

 

[dovahkiing]

Nope, the usb dumper produces trimmed dumps, the MIG homebrew produces untrimmed ones.

Thanks that was my understanding. In that case, I am not so sure the dump mechanism can be ruled out as a potential detection flag thus far.

Generally speaking, I suspect Nintendo is intentionally *not* banning everyone they can detect (or have detected), specifically to obfuscate their detection methodology.

 

[Locutus73]

Thanks that was my understanding. In that case, I am not so sure the dump mechanism can be ruled out as a potential detection flag thus far.

Up to MIG firmware 1.1.9 we knew a technique to distinguish MIG carts with trimmed dumps from original carts (but not with untrimmed dumps). This technique worked on Switch 1 consoles but
* it seems N never used that on Switch 1
* it seems N detected MIG carts with untrimmed dumps on Switch 2

Now, with firmware 1.2.0 MIG carts seem to behave in the same way both with trimmed and untrimmed dumps and
* we know a technique to detect that (so any MIG regardless of the dump) on Switch 1
* N seems to not use that on the Switch 1 or on the new Switch 2

So who knows? What is N looking for?
Regardless if I know how to detect a MIG on a Switch 1 I don’t assume N being stupider than me…

 

[Sitansirou]

what do you mean ?

Zelda Switch 2 Enhanced Editions game is ver 1.7.0 out the box no need update 1.8.1

you can play it on system 20.11 or 20.1.5

Oh fine, so I only need to install the upgrade from the eshop?

 

[eggwolio]

I put an original cart of Mario 3D All-Stars in my new, unbanned Switch 2 and did the update. I was able to update the game on banned console via a local update from one Switch 2 to another.

 

[xps2]

Sitansirou

i assume you already setup a internet connect to the switch 2
Put in the game card let game show up on the screen
Pick the game you want to update
I mean navigate to the game you want to update
tab on the + right Controller or joy con
You will see a menu pop up
Select software update
Select Via the internet
Checking for update
Let it do it thing
If there is an update
You will see downloading
Once you have complete

 

[FernandoRocker]

My guess is that Nintendo is paused the bans intentionally for a reason.

Once Nintendo detects the MIG, they will wait a couple of months for the ban; that way the persons using the MIG can't return the console to stores.

Post automatically merged: Jun 28, 2025

My guess is that Nintendo is paused the bans intentionally for a reason.

Once Nintendo detects the MIG, they will wait a couple of months for the ban; that way the persons using the MIG can't return the console to stores.

 

[mad_dog]

My guess is that Nintendo is paused the bans intentionally for a reason.

Once Nintendo detects the MIG, they will wait a couple of months for the ban; that way the persons using the MIG can't return the console to stores.

Post automatically merged: Jun 28, 2025

My guess is that Nintendo is paused the bans intentionally for a reason.

Once Nintendo detects the MIG, they will wait a couple of months for the ban; that way the persons using the MIG can't return the console to stores.

would they ?
that's to be a dirty move on their side...
also, if a hack is found in the mean time, the afterward ban would have no effect (in CFW scenario), right ?
I'd be BigN, I'd ban as much people as I could, as soon as I could, as you never know what could happen 'tomorrow'

 

[Marc_LFD]

would they ?
that's to be a dirty move on their side...
also, if a hack is found in the mean time, the afterward ban would have no effect (in CFW scenario), right ?
I'd be BigN, I'd ban as much people as I could, as soon as I could, as you never know what could happen 'tomorrow'

M$ used to have ban waves for hacked 360 consoles, but they don't really have to worry about piracy on current Xboxes (because of GamePass and the Dev Mode). My point is, Nintendo may be aiming to do something similar.

 

[Moe87]

If this is true, doesn't it mean a banned switch 2 can't play any switch 2 original games?

Just can't play games that is game-key cards because there is no way to communicate with eShop server (CDN) that is necessarily to download it.

You can still play full games on cartridge like Cyberpunk 2077, Mario Kart World, Rune Factory: Guardians of Azuma and Donkey Kong Bananza, but you won't get game update.

It looks like other members explained more depth than I did.

Oh yeah, Switch firmware update is come from different server and it has been since OG Switch.

 

[dolpf]

From the Russian forum:

Information about new bans on Switch 2 has appeared:
Error 2124-4517 - ban for the eShop.
Error 2181-4017 - ban for game updates.
Quote from a personal message from a rutracker user:
«I am writing to you about Switch 2 - perhaps this will help you or others. I bought NS2 on the day of the premiere, and it is excellent. On June 7th, I transferred my user data and save data from my legitimate NS1 (which I only used Migflash on offline) to NS2 via system transfer. I even bought some new games for NS2 (Mario Kart World rulez!). But on June 22nd my NS2 was banned A few clarifications that may help to establish the real reason for the ban:
1. I never used Migflash on NS2, because I knew before the NS2 premiere that Nintendo would implement security measures to protect NS2 from Migflash (there is too much $$$$$$$ at stake), and it would be stupid of me to pirate the game in the first month after the premiere. On my legal NS1, I used both my legal dumps and full dumps from a torrent.
2. My both consoles (NS1 Migflash offline + new NS2) were linked to my Nintendo account (which I think was my mistake), and with the release of new firmware for NS1 and NS2, they probably tracked my use of Migflash on NS1 and banned only NS2 (NS1 is still not banned!).
3. Errors with codes 2124-4517 and 2181-4017 indicate that this is a temporary ban (according to Nintendo's website), but according to other sources on the internet, it is a permanent ban. I created two tickets to Nintendo's support to 100% confirm that I was banned, and also asked to specify the reason for the ban according to the rules of conduct. But it seems that Nintendo does not care, since no response in 4 days.
I would be glad if you could spread on the forums information about my sad experience to warn users!»
To summarize the message, let's draw a conclusion that Nintendo can ban Switch 2 for using the same account with Switch 1, which used Mig. However, Switch 1 will remain unbanned.
In July 2024, Nintendo already issued temporary bans (with the same error codes) for Mig , but in the end, these bans turned out to be permanent..

 

[dovahkiing]

From the Russian forum:

I'm very skeptical Nintendo is issuing console bans on NS2 for detected flash cart use on a linked NS1. Not really buying this.

 

[Inaki]

My guess is that Nintendo is paused the bans intentionally for a reason.

Once Nintendo detects the MIG, they will wait a couple of months for the ban; that way the persons using the MIG can't return the console to stores.

Post automatically merged: Jun 28, 2025

My guess is that Nintendo is paused the bans intentionally for a reason.

Once Nintendo detects the MIG, they will wait a couple of months for the ban; that way the persons using the MIG can't return the console to stores.

Come on, you can buy another Switch 2, swap the tablet and return the whole packet, not that this wasn't a thing before.

 

[mathew77]

Come on, you can buy another Switch 2, swap the tablet and return the whole packet, not that this wasn't a thing before.

In my country all the stories carefully checks the S/Ns of the consoles before giving a return, so no way.

 

[dolpf]

I'm very skeptical Nintendo is issuing console bans on NS2 for detected flash cart use on a linked NS1. Not really buying this.

But for me, this is in the spirit of Nintendo.
For a year and a half, Nintendo could not defeat MIG (they did not stop their production and sales). Yes, they were able to detect MIGs with firmware 1.1.9, but they began to ban not only those who used illegal dumps, but even those who did not pirate.
Then MIG updated the firmware to 1.2.0 and Nintendo again could not detect them. But in order to continue to intimidate users, Nintendo went further, along the path of tracking log files on Switch 1, linked by one account with Switch 2. And they began to ban for this, hiding behind temporary bans (i.e. giving users false hope to be unbanned), which in fact are permanent.

 

[Marc_LFD]

I'm very skeptical Nintendo is issuing console bans on NS2 for detected flash cart use on a linked NS1. Not really buying this.

Okay, go ahead and try it yourself then let us know.

 

[Gbasam64]

Okay, go ahead and try it yourself then let us know.

I support this, seeing it believing, but we would also love to be proven wrong so win-win.