Mathieulh decrypts LV0 at FW 3.73

[Rydian]

I've also acquired the keys and won't be posting them. Go ahead and talk about me a lot and feed my huge ego. I've contributed nothing but It's definitely worth a huge discussion.

Giga_Gaia summed it up perfectly.

You have no clue what you're talking about so hard it's not even funny anymore.

Mathieulh has contributed much to the PSP and PS3 scenes. Pay any damned attention and you might know that.

Hell, he even has his own tag on PS3hax due to the frequency with which he's contributed.

Christ.

EDIT: Typo, tab -> tag.

 

[xxNathanxx]

ITT: people discussing things they haven't the slightest clue about. I'm looking at you, kids. Stay out of this kind of discussions unless you know the ins and outs of 'the scene'.

@thegame07: could be he's friendly to you and that he's been friendly the past years, but this kind of attitude towards the scene shows he has no respect for it whatsoever. If you create something brilliant but do not wish to share it with anyone else, don't even mention it. The way he's acting now is "Hey, look at me, I made a huge step forward towards bringing custom firmware to the PS3, but I won't let anyone know how I did it!", which is about as childish as the wars between scene release groups.

Sharing is caring and mathieulh is a poser.

 

[godreborn]

I don't think sony would actually win a lawsuit against anyone who hacked the ps3. after all, they dropped the lawsuit with geohot after he promised to remove all information about ps3 hacking from his website. it sounds like sony, knowing they were going to lose, tried to come up with some way of ending the suit gracefully--typical sony logic! it's not surprising though considering the ignorance of their legal team. they seem to think they can sue others, but u can't be sued back. is sony really that pathetic? is there hand really so weak that they defend themselves with lawsuits rather than patches? r they putting protection in place for when they **** up again since we all know they will?

nothing would please me more than to see sony go down in flames. I honestly can't say I've ever hated a company more. corporate greed may be commonplace, but sony has elevated it to a whole new level. unfortunately, the worst part is the willingness of so many to forgive sony. the psn fiasco, for example, illustrated sony's reluctance to even protect their customers. yet, fanboys tried to find some reason to forgive them...even after the insulting comments of the incompetent fool, Howard Stinger, who said that the psn debacle wasn't even that big of a deal. sony has been forgiven way too many times. and, if people r so willing to forgive, sony has no reason to amend their actions.

 

[Kayot]

My biggest problem with all the exploits is that they're all written for Linux. I can follow the code and explanations up to the point where the poster starts using Linux lingo. I don't understand Linux kernel code or it's base architecture. Because of that I'm simply dismissed as being a noob. The PS3 core scene has always been exclusive. Whenever I ask where do I start learning how to do the things that these 'hackers' do I usually get some obvious response like 'learn how to read' or 'you just get it or not' and my personal favorite 'It takes a long time, so don't bother yourself' that last one usually comes right after the poster mentions that they are trying to encourage development. It's rarely ever constructive. All Math has done for me is demotivate me since I have no idea how to start. His tutorial reads more like a scientific journal entry. The source code isn't documented at all. I'm not even sure how to run it. That's the scene that every one is talking so positively about. In fact it's rare to see source codes for anything written for the PS3.

Also, Waninkoko is something of a hero for me for explaining things in full detail. Even if it is other peoples code, at least he goes out of his way with proper documentation. That's how I learned to program and crack everything from software registration to circumvent CD checks. I'm defiantly not at Razor 1911 level, but I can make my own cracks and keygens.

I would like it if the elite would stop thinking that pirates are all untrained stupid rabble. Circumventing a CD check or online activation is child's play in most cases. A non-standard game console just happens to suck in a different way. I wouldn't even bother with them if there wasn't such a thing as an exclusive.

I'd also like to point out that Math was NEVER going to release the metldr exploit. When I say NEVER I mean NEVER EVER EVER. It wasn't going to happen in a million years. So why everyone is upset that he isn't going to release this one is beyond me. It wasn't because the last one leaked. It's because he wasn't EVER going to release either one. At least now I have something that once I get the basic idea I might be able to do something with it. Not a, 'I'm trying to motivate you.' but a real step into the unknown. Most huge events start with something small and forgettable.

 

[Reploid]

I just wanna play some games without paying for them. Is that too much to ask?

 

[Rydian]

My biggest problem with all the exploits is that they're all written for Linux. I can follow the code and explanations up to the point where the poster starts using Linux lingo. I don't understand Linux kernel code or it's base architecture. Because of that I'm simply dismissed as being a noob. The PS3 core scene has always been exclusive. Whenever I ask where do I start learning how to do the things that these 'hackers' do I usually get some obvious response like 'learn how to read' or 'you just get it or not' and my personal favorite 'It takes a long time, so don't bother yourself' that last one usually comes right after the poster mentions that they are trying to encourage development. It's rarely ever constructive. All Math has done for me is demotivate me since I have no idea how to start. His tutorial reads more like a scientific journal entry. The source code isn't documented at all. I'm not even sure how to run it. That's the scene that every one is talking so positively about. In fact it's rare to see source codes for anything written for the PS3.

One man is not the scene, and the people that make these things are often not the people who make the guides.

For an example from the PSP scene RemoteJoyLite comes with no documentation. I am not the person who wrote RemoteJoyLite, but I did write a detailed guide on using it. That guide took a while and a lot of effort and fiddling around to make, and I had to figure most of it out myself... and it's not even that technical. If I had to show somebody how to write a plugin like that, however... I wouldn't. Anybody that needs to know how to write a specific plugin like that doesn't know enough to begin. They should learn more things in general, and practice making a few plugins before going for something so complex.

If you don't even know how to use the platform the tools run on, you're in no position to be hacking a system with them... this is a simple fact. However, it's damn well fixable! For topics such as Linux, there's already tons of documentation and hacking tools and books out there. If you really want to learn how these hacks work on a deeper level, then pick up a linux distro, find some online materials, and start fucking with it. There's many linux distros out there and people can point you to a variety of them depending on your specs, tech level, and what you want to do. You might want to start with a user-friendly distro like a *ubuntu derivative, then move onto things that have you build your own distro (gento/arch?), then compile some of the tools yourself instead of downloading the binaries, then start looking through the source to see which tools have which jobs in the average distro, and blah blah blah.

I would like it if the elite would stop thinking that pirates are all untrained stupid rabble.

We're responding to the posts in this thread, where people who are completely misinformed are venting their anger.

I'd also like to point out that Math was NEVER going to release the metldr exploit. When I say NEVER I mean NEVER EVER EVER. It wasn't going to happen in a million years. So why everyone is upset that he isn't going to release this one is beyond me. It wasn't because the last one leaked. It's because he wasn't EVER going to release either one. At least now I have something that once I get the basic idea I might be able to do something with it. Not a, 'I'm trying to motivate you.' but a real step into the unknown. Most huge events start with something small and forgettable.

Didn't he say that the leak was the final straw?

 

[VashTS]

i hate this guy so much. really just stay quiet about it if you are going to do this. its obvious everyone is scared of sony so no one will work on cracking it or if they do will keep it to themselves. i hate him. i would do some research on this topic, but sadly i don't have the time for this kind of stuff.

 

[Critica1]

Yet you spew another stupid response like many others here. Great logic.

 

[junkerde]

Mathieulh decrypts nothing and releases nothing more like hahahahaha

 

[spotanjo3]

Please no flaming. Be nice and he might drop a hint.

According to psx-scene's front page.

 

[Gitaroo]

he is fishing for a job at sony, Yoshida at Sony even replied to his tweet. He probably even leaked the exploit himself since Sony has been quite, the leak shows he is not joking around.

 

[Critica1]

I think it's to a point where I rather just kill myself than bother with the stupid notices I get.

 

[Giga_Gaia]

Seriously, if he don't want to release stuffs, he should shut up about it instead of rubbing our faces in it.

Than you people wonder why people hates the little dude so much.

Seems the guy wants to be hated on purpose. Oh but wait, that's basically the definition of an attention whore.

Note: I obviously don't care about what you people think of me at all.

 

[stanleyopar2000]

mentlegen

 

[gameandmatch]

Why hasn't anybody just killed the guy already? A douche like that is merely wasting precious oxygen.

Beside, it's obviously a lie, the guy is nothing but an attention whore. He probably never touched a PS3.

Answer to question 1: Because he found a way to open up the ps3 new firmware. Give me your proof that it is a lie. Just because he doesn't want to post up his work (possibly because of his 'anger' but more likely with lawsuits) doesn't not make one a liar.

Wow people still bashing because people a) have no idea what's going on b) haven't read a single word in some of the other posts c) aren't able play pirated game on the 3.7x firmware. One man's talent turned into a bunch of hatred just because people don't get anything out of the deal. Pathetic.

I couldn't agree with you more. It seems that they don't realize that he has open the door for others to possibly do what he did.

 

[steveo1978]

I've also acquired the keys and won't be posting them. Go ahead and talk about me a lot and feed my huge ego. I've contributed nothing but It's definitely worth a huge discussion.

Giga_Gaia summed it up perfectly.

You have no clue what you're talking about so hard it's not even funny anymore.

Mathieulh has contributed much to the PSP and PS3 scenes. Pay any damned attention and you might know that.

Hell, he even has his own tag on PS3hax due to the frequency with which he's contributed.

Christ.

EDIT: Typo, tab -> tag.

Most people are just pissed that he will not spoon feed them. If most people understood half of what the read, they would not complain or flame as much as they do. Here is an example: That stuff that got leaked not to long ago, the average user as no use for it at all. By it getting leaked shows that other people other then Math had it, but still people attack him for it.

 

[godreborn]

no, I think most people r pissed because math obviously has a god-complex. it's rather naive to believe that he's decrypted lv 0 based on absolutely nothing. he's essentially holding the scene hostage with a plastic gun.

 

[shakirmoledina]

he could have or not we cant tell but the fact tht he says its possible so find out is seriously silly no matter what one may call it.
i just hope something happens because this to me is nothing.

he definitely has done something esp i remember about psp hacking and getting the keys but whats the use of keeping things to yourself. its not like we are learning to hack or that its an education or art... we want to play games (i am being blunt and honest)

 

[Rydian]

Note: I obviously don't [strike]care about what you people think of me at all[/strike] read threads before posting.

Yeah, that's bloody obvious by now, you don't need to keep showing us.

it's rather naive to believe that he's decrypted lv 0 based on absolutely nothing.

It's rather naive of you to post as if you know about a scene you pay no damn attention to.

Mathieulh has contributed much to the PSP and PS3 scenes. Pay any damned attention and you might know that.

Hell, he even has his own tag on PS3hax due to the frequency with which he's contributed.

He's released tons of info and tools for the PSP/PS3 scene before, nobody that actually knows who the fuck he is doubts him.





I mean honestly, half the posts in this thread amount to little more than "Who's that Obama guy you all are talking about?"

 

[Kayot]

One man is not the scene, and the people that make these things are often not the people who make the guides.

It's proper educate to at least comment the source code. Not just for the people who may use it, but for the original author as well. Not commenting the source is a sign of egotism. After programming in c and cpp and reading twenty or so books on it, it's generally agree upon to comment the source. The original author may be able to figure out what they did, but not always. It isn't a matter of skill either. I write tight compact reusable code in the style of object oriented and I say from experience that commenting the code has saved me five to thirty minutes of searching. The only non-code in math's leak is the output strings. A lot of those are vague as well.

That said, math did try to document what he did later in a tweet. It was horrible. It was easier to follow the source code than the garbage he spewed out. I read his 'guide' and then read the main sub. It took a little following, but what he said he did and what the program did were barely compatible. It's obvious that his tweet was an attempt to dissuade people from attempting to use the source. It was like in star trek where they use a complex explanation for something simple.

If I had to show somebody how to write a plugin like that, however... I wouldn't. Anybody that needs to know how to write a specific plugin like that doesn't know enough to begin. They should learn more things in general, and practice making a few plugins before going for something so complex.

That's what I'm talking about. A determined answer with a vague solution. I don't use Linux. I didn't say I can't. I choose not to. A lack of an advantage isn't a weakness. The whole compile your own linux was fun for a while. But in the end I wanted something that was easy to use for day to day life that didn't require a thousand config text files. Sure I can setup wine, but why do that when I don't have the moral issues that seem to plague the more talented?

A plugin is far from complex. The easy way to explain how to make a plugin would be to explain the source. I've made a few plugin's for Macroquest. A plugin is in fact very simple most of the time. It extends something that is already made. In Macroquest's example, all the library's are fully explained and the hooks are in the main program. When I was asked how to make a plugin I didn't have to point too far since all the tools and example documentation are included with the Macroquest source which doesn't come precompiled. Every time I download a plugin for my PSP it's already compiled and usually finding the source is a pain. Then the source isn't documents at all. It's not a challenge, it's plain unfair. Saying that I'm not smart enough is just an excuse the programmers are using to cover up a deficiency.

The sad part is that one time I asked for a guide on how to set the PSP SDK up for Visual Studio 2008. I was told that since I didn't already know, I wasn't smart enough to use it. Let's not forget the douche bags who give me a 'Let me google that for you' link with a search parameter I already tried. It's to the point where I don't ask a question unless it's become a serious issue. Then I don't expect intelligent answers. When I get a good answer on the first response I almost faint.

Didn't he say that the leak was the final straw?

If it's the final straw why did he feel the need to rush the next step? I figure his strategy was to release it the moment another group released something that was the same as it. I wouldn't feel motivated if someone kept jumping in front of me every time I made progress. I don't play racing games because of the rubber band effect. It's self defeating to challenge someone who will swoop in and claim victory at the last second. He can do that regardless of his ethics because to his persoanl opinion the hack was going to happen anyway. Geohot did the same dam thing. Fail Overflow was about to release his exploit to the world so he jumped in and released his crippled version as fast as he could to claim credit. The irony is that Fail Overflow wasn't going to release such a complete tool so Geo ended up jumping the shark.

I don't care if the PS3 is ever fully hacked. All the good games are released on the PC as well. In ten years there will be a PS3 emulator and my real system will sit inside the same crate with my PS2, PS1, N64, Dreamcast, GBA, SNES, etc. All this drama will be for naught and people like Math will be nothing but an odd memory for the older gaming generations. Now if someone would make a good Xbox 1 emulator I could put that thing away too.