Marcan Clarifies

[chyyran]

I think there still is an argument to be made for preservation here, hacking open the WiiU simply for the sake of exploring the system for emulation. An open, publicly available archive, interpreter of a machine that in the future may no longer be available. Even though most people, admittedly including me use emulators for piracy, it is still a useful tool that maps out the internal workings of a machine. A hundred years from now, the actual, physical machine may be lost to history, but I bet my ass some form of emulator will remain somewhere, allowing our descendants to study deeply how our entertainment machines work, and, perhaps touching on the subject of piracy, allowing our descendants to experience the games we played. The ISOs of the WiiU games by then would have been in public domain, but if no tool is available to play them, they'll be useless.

While I agree that developing for these is becoming more rapidly accessible, it's not accessible enough. As well, whenever a console comes out, warez will become an inevitability. Its unlikely that the WiiUKey is a hoax, but if that comes out, the chances of exploring the internals of the system with that peripheral is low, and truly only contributes to piracy. While opening up the WiiU may enable piracy, it also enables, as I've said, historical archival of the system internals and games, a free ecosystem, however small for the console, and perhaps much more.

While it may go against their morals, in my opinion, the pros continue to outweigh the cons if piracy is treated as a con. Information is meant to be openly available to everyone, and even though that may not be the case in real life, its still a good ideal to strive towards in all aspects, including the WiiU.

 

[pwsincd]

he's one of the 31 so called privvy people , he speaks for all I guess. Or does he hold all the cards ? I guess the rest are busy devving last gen homebrew , maybe we can play gc backups with wiimotes soon , gotta be more interesting working on that.
Maybe we should have irc logs of all "The Wonderful 31" commenting.

 

[Dork]

"I hope the Wii U gets hacked soon, I want to play my pirated games homebrew!"

*marcan states hacking the Wii U is boring and that open source is better*

"Hah, consoles are dieing, down with homebrew, anyone who disagrees with me is an entitled manchild!"

GBAtemp confirmed for one huge hive-mind.

 

[dauphin327]

I contacted Wasabi team who made Wasabi360, and they told me they might have been creating a ode for the Wii U. WiiKey have competition?

 

[WiiUBricker]

marcan_troll is probably enjoying analog audio alongside HDMI.

 

[the_randomizer]

marcan_troll is probably enjoying analog audio alongside HDMI.

Not surprised, move along, nothing to see here. I find that name to rather appropriate, all things considered.

Open consoles being "better" than closed consoles is an opinion, not a fact.

 

[mysticwaterfall]

You can agree with marcan's opinions or not, but they are his to have. If you really want him to release something, insulting the man and making the thread a flamefest certainly is not going to achieve that goal. If anything, it just proves his point.

 

[the_randomizer]

You can agree with marcan's opinions or not, but they are his to have. If you really want him to release something, insulting the man and making the thread a flamefest certainly is not going to achieve that goal. If anything, it just proves his point.

What would you suggest we do? We're not happy about it, yes, and we need to respect opinions, but what can we, as a community, do to help soften his stance a bit?

 

[DiscostewSM]

Might just be me, but reading the selection of quotes on the OP reminded me of GameFAQs forums.

 

[the_randomizer]

Might just be me, but reading the selection of quotes on the OP reminded me of GameFAQs forums.

Ouch

 

[WiiUBricker]

You can agree with marcans opinions or not, but they are his to have.

Well, I want all my opinions posted at the front page too

 

[the_randomizer]

Well, I want all my opinions posted at the front page too

Ooh, ooh, can I have mine up there as well?

 

[Foxi4]

Well, I want all my opinions posted at the front page too

Ooh, ooh, can I have mine up there as well?

As soon as you become world-renowned scene hackers, yes.

 

[the_randomizer]

As soon as you become world-renowned scene hackers, yes.

Okay, I'll look up those C/C+ manuals. I've been meaning to look at those anyway.

 

[Foxi4]

Okay, I'll look up those C/C+ manuals. I've been meaning to look at those anyway.

See you in 20 years time.

 

[the_randomizer]

See you in 20 years time.

Sounds good

 

[Sterling]

It's hard to find more appropriate examples though - you'd have to find a flashcart that does only homebrew and compare it to a flashcart that does both homebrew and backups.

OWAIT, iPLA-- nevermind, iPlayer is dead.

I still have an iPlayer. It does what it needs to do and sits in an unused box near my bed as I can't sleep without it.

My take on homebrew enabled systems is that piracy is a side effect and not the main draw. I like being able to run back-ups, but the fact that my system can be an all in one box and do everything is much more appealing than the free games.

 

[Foxi4]

My take on homebrew enabled systems is that piracy is a side effect and not the main draw. I like being able to run back-ups, but the fact that my system can be an all in one box and do everything is much more appealing than the free games.

...this is probably a good time to start looking into smartphones.

 

[the_randomizer]

I still have an iPlayer. It does what it needs to do and sits in an unused box near my bed as I can't sleep without it.

My take on homebrew enabled systems is that piracy is a side effect and not the main draw. I like being able to run back-ups, but the fact that my system can be an all in one box and do everything is much more appealing than the free games.

Unfortunately, not everyone will see homebrew that way, some are hard set on thinking that homebrew is strictly for piracy and not legit reasons.

 

[DinohScene]

My take on homebrew enabled systems is that piracy is a side effect and not the main draw. I like being able to run back-ups, but the fact that my system can be an all in one box and do everything is much more appealing than the free games.

Exactly that for me to.
I play pirated games yes.
However I also backup me own games (as odd as it may sound) I have every game I legitimately own on me RGH.
And I take me RGH to me mates.
It's convenient.

And yeh, I also like to do more then just play games and having forced advertisements and worthless "apps" shoved in me face all day.
Since the 360 hardly has any homebrew, it still has some neato things like setting your own bootscreen, custom dashboards, NAND backup tools, game modding (Debug menu in Dead Island) etc.