Hacking Linked NANDS

[solress]

it doesn't matter where you find it

 

[Purple Mudkip]

Me neither

Download Luma
Extract "3ds" folder and Luma.dat to SD root
Boot Luma through HBL.
Success

Idk where you got reinand from..

Me neither lol, ok i guess i'll try Luma.
However that requires unlinking my nands first right?
I mean i don't wanna lose 9.2 on sys and i find tedious deleting emunand since i have a lot of games in there, if i delete emu i can replace it with a backup right?

 

[kingaz]

Purple Mudkip, stop. Just, stop. You need to know a whole lot more about how this works before you start fucking things up, especially since you didn't set it up.

I can't help you right now, but here's what you need to do:

1) Go to the n00b questions stickied topic and ask for help there. There is a lot of bad advice here (thank you solress, although your last few posts have been okay) so the help thread should be better.

2) Go to reddit.com/r/3dshacks . There are some very useful stickies and a help thread there as well.

3) You need to understand every term being thrown around: firmware, NAND, etc. Right now, you are flying blind.

 

[solress]

Purple Mudkip, stop. Just, stop. You need to know a whole lot more about how this works before you start fucking things up, especially since you didn't set it up.

I can't help you right now, but here's what you need to do:

1) Go to the n00b questions stickied topic and ask for help there. There is a lot of bad advice here (thank you solress, although your last few posts have been okay) so the help thread should be better.

2) Go to reddit.com/r/3dshacks . There are some very useful stickies and a help thread there as well.

3) You need to understand every term being thrown around: firmware, NAND, etc. Right now, you are flying blind.

Agreed, I don't think we'd ever advance like this

 

[Purple Mudkip]

I guess i'll leave it the way it is.

 

[kingaz]

I guess i'll leave it the way it is.

I'll get back after work and try to point you in the right direction.

This is complicated. There's a lot of stuff, a lot of ways to screw up, and a lot of bad info, especially on GBAtemp.

We were all n00bs once, so hang in there.

 

[nickwhit]

Me neither

Me neither lol, ok i guess i'll try Luma.
However that requires unlinking my nands first right?
I mean i don't wanna lose 9.2 on sys and i find tedious deleting emunand since i have a lot of games in there, if i delete emu i can replace it with a backup right?

No it does not require that. Luma will run just as rxTools does/did.. no differently really.
There is a way to unlink without formatting emu... but I cant remember it now, plus im pretty sure it messes up NNID.

 

[solress]

You're better of formatting sysNAND as it will keep the emuNAND original NNID

 

[Purple Mudkip]

Let's keep it simple, does this unlink my nands properly while allowing me not to lose my eshop access but only in my emunand?

 

[nickwhit]

Let's keep it simple, does this unlink my nands properly while allowing me not to lose my eshop access but only in my emunand?

It should. Yes.

 

[Purple Mudkip]

It should. Yes.

and it also deletes my NNID so i can't go to e-shop without emunand, is this correct?

 

[nickwhit]

and it also deletes my NNID so i can't go to e-shop without emunand, is this correct?

If your NANDs are unlinked, which is the point of the guide, they cannot share a NNID.
So make sure emuNAND has the one you intend on using.. if youre gonna be using emuNAND.

Meaning: You could still access eshop on sysNAND, itd just have to use a different NNID than emuNAND.

 

[kingaz]

and it also deletes my NNID so i can't go to e-shop without emunand, is this correct?

(Hi, I'm back).

All you need to do to unlink is to get a program called "TinyFormat" (available as a homebrew app or a CIA), and use that to format the NAND you care about the least.

Here's what you do:

1) Use EmuNAND9 to make a backup of the NAND you are about to format (I recommend formatting sysNAND, since you're basically going to be using emuNAND). YOU CANNOT JUST MAKE A BACKUP BY COPYING YOUR SD CARD. Once you have your backup (which gets saved to the SD card), save it to a safe place. Multiple safe places. Put it on your Google Drive.

The NAND is the internal memory of the 3DS. sysNAND is the real NAND. emuNAND (or redNAND) is a fake version of NAND; we can use an exploit to trick the 3DS into reading an emuNAND/redNAND off of the SD card, which lets us pull all sorts of shit.

2) Use TinyFormat to format.

This way, your NANDs are unlinked, but your NNID doesn't get deactivated, which happens if your NANDs share an NNID but one NAND gets formatted via System Settings.

 

[Purple Mudkip]

(Hi, I'm back).

All you need to do to unlink is to get a program called "TinyFormat" (available as a homebrew app or a CIA), and use that to format the NAND you care about the least.

Here's what you do:

1) Use EmuNAND9 to make a backup of the NAND you are about to format (I recommend formatting sysNAND, since you're basically going to be using emuNAND). YOU CANNOT JUST MAKE A BACKUP BY COPYING YOUR SD CARD. Once you have your backup (which gets saved to the SD card), save it to a safe place. Multiple safe places. Put it on your Google Drive.

The NAND is the internal memory of the 3DS. sysNAND is the real NAND. emuNAND (or redNAND) is a fake version of NAND; we can use an exploit to trick the 3DS into reading an emuNAND/redNAND off of the SD card, which lets us pull all sorts of shit.

2) Use TinyFormat to format.

This way, your NANDs are unlinked, but your NNID doesn't get deactivated, which happens if your NANDs share an NNID but one NAND gets formatted via System Settings.

Hi.
Perfect, that's the explanation i needed thank you very much.
One last question, what do i do with the backup when i'm done? sorry if it sounds silly but i want to be 100% sure.

 

[kingaz]

Hi.
Perfect, that's the explanation i needed thank you very much.
One last question, what do i do with the backup when i'm done? sorry if it sounds silly but i want to be 100% sure.

The backup, which will probably be named something like NAND.bin or sysNAND.bin (you can use the D-pad to change this in EmuNAND9), should be copied to your computer. You should then upload this to cloud storage, or put it on multiple drives, just keep it safe. That way, if something goes wrong, you can restore your sysNAND. (Although if you accidentally update WITHOUT having arm9loaderhax, you'll need a hard mod to restore your sysNAND, but whatever).

Question: have you ever used EmuNAND9 before?

 

[nickwhit]

Hi.
Perfect, that's the explanation i needed thank you very much.
One last question, what do i do with the backup when i'm done? sorry if it sounds silly but i want to be 100% sure.

Restore the back up. Lol almost the same way you backed it up. Same program and everything.
That is.. if you want or need to. You could reinstall everything. Its up to you.

Edit: only restore the backup if youre backing up emunand.. not sysnand. If you choose to backup sysnand, well.. thats essentially useless without a9lh or mod.

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The backup, which will probably be named something like NAND.bin or sysNAND.bin (you can use the D-pad to change this in EmuNAND9), should be copied to your computer. You should then upload this to cloud storage, or put it on multiple drives, just keep it safe. That way, if something goes wrong, you can restore your sysNAND. (Although if you accidentally update WITHOUT having arm9loaderhax, you'll need a hard mod to restore your sysNAND, but whatever).

Question: have you ever used EmuNAND9 before?

User isnt backing up sysNAND and isnt on an A9LH setup.

Edit: just saw the suggestion of formatting sys instead of emu.. disregard. Though user doesnt have a9lh.. so keeping the backup is almost useless without hardmod.

 

[Purple Mudkip]

A9LH only has risk when installing, then it's safe. but i has to be installed with Luma, is this correct?
Because if there is too much risk of upgrading(and since i don't have the instruments to weld) i'd rather take the risk(and the time) of installing A9LH and save myself headches if the update goes wrong.

 

[kingaz]

Restore the back up. Lol almost the same way you backed it up. Same program and everything.
That is.. if you want or need to. You could reinstall everything. Its up to you.

Edit: only restore the backup if youre backing up emunand.. not sysnand. If you choose to backup sysnand, well.. thats essentially useless without a9lh or mod.

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User isnt backing up sysNAND and isnt on an A9LH setup.

Edit: just saw the suggestion of formatting sys instead of emu.. disregard. Though user doesnt have a9lh.. so keeping the backup is almost useless without hardmod.

You can still restore sysNAND without a hardmod using regular CFW. You don't need A9LH for that; you just need to be on 9.2 or lower firmware.

A9LH only has risk when installing, then it's safe. but i has to be installed with Luma, is this correct?
Because if there is too much risk of upgrading(and since i don't have the instruments to weld) i'd rather take the risk(and the time) of installing A9LH and save myself headches if the update goes wrong.

The riskiest part of an A9LH install at this point is a softbrick when downgrading sysNAND to 9.2. You do not have this problem (unless you updated your sysNAND between your first post and now).

The only risk you have is if you do something stupid.

https://github.com/Plailect/Guide/wiki/Part-4-(Getting-the-OTP)

If you start from here and follow the instructions to the freaking letter, you will not have any problems. It's a pain, but yes, once it's installed, as long as you keep your sysNAND backups safe (back up wherever the guide says to back up, and I'd even recommend backing up before downloading a firmware update), you're pretty much golden.

Finally, you don't have to use Luma3DS. I believe Cakes technically works, and someone is making an A9LH fork of rxtools. But Luma3DS has everyone acting like missionaries because it's far and away the most user-friendly and feature complete of the public CFWs out there right now.

 

[nickwhit]

You can still restore sysNAND without a hardmod using regular CFW. You don't need A9LH for that; you just need to be on 9.2 or lower firmware.



The riskiest part of an A9LH install at this point is a softbrick when downgrading sysNAND to 9.2. You do not have this problem (unless you updated your sysNAND between your first post and now).

The only risk you have is if you do something stupid.

https://github.com/Plailect/Guide/wiki/Part-4-(Getting-the-OTP)

If you start from here and follow the instructions to the freaking letter, you will not have any problems. It's a pain, but yes, once it's installed, as long as you keep your sysNAND backups safe (back up wherever the guide says to back up, and I'd even recommend backing up before downloading a firmware update), you're pretty much golden.

Right but if you fuck up your sysNAND and require a backup.. wouldnt you have a brick, considering you cant access emu/CFW, and without a9lh you dont have the tools before boot. I could be wrong.. its been so long since I used menuhax. But I thought it relied on sysNAND being functional.

 

[Purple Mudkip]

You can still restore sysNAND without a hardmod using regular CFW. You don't need A9LH for that; you just need to be on 9.2 or lower firmware.

The only risk you have is if you do something stupid.

If you start from here and follow the instructions to the freaking letter, you will not have any problems. It's a pain, but yes, once it's installed, as long as you keep your sysNAND backups safe (back up wherever the guide says to back up, and I'd even recommend backing up before downloading a firmware update), you're pretty much golden.

Finally, you don't have to use Luma3DS. I believe Cakes technically works, and someone is making an A9LH fork of rxtools. But Luma3DS has everyone acting like missionaries because it's far and away the most user-friendly and feature complete of the public CFWs out there right now.

That's great, i will switch to A9LH.
About the Luma3DS, have you tried it? if it is easy to install i'm willing to change since the support for Luma is bigger than it is for the new RxTools project and for what i've toold, it requires less space in the SD.
Thanks again for the info.