Hacking Let's get this shit straight.

[alex]

I bought a Supercard DS-One because it was cheaper yes, I know. I hardly get to order online since I'm only 13, and at the time I only had $50, and I only get money on my birthday or on Christmas(actually, I get stuff, games) and that's it. And I hardly am able to get imports so that's what I'm using it for too. The only imports I bought were Jump Ultimate Stars, and Naruto Gekitou Ninja Taisen EX, and it was on $20, and I had hardly any money just to buy that+freeloader. (I was pissed when it wouldn't work, but then came GeckoOS

) Now if I could pay $10 for a new game I would. And buy imports at a store for just maybe $5 or $10 I would. I like having the box and the manual. Nintendo, you forced me to this. If you put stuff for less, I know it costs a lot of money to make a game, but uf you made more consoles, and cheaper games and accessories, then you could make more money because you make more sales. And I got lucky, my brother is getting me a 8GB MicroSDHC for my birthday since he knew I was ordering the Supercard. I don't care for quality, I just want it to do my shit. If it takes two seconds less on the CycloDS, who fucking cares? What can you do in 2 seconds? And give me crap, "Add that up and you wasted a lot of time", shut the hell up, it's separately, so I don't care, now if I had to wait all that time at once, I'd be pissed. But it's a good enough card, it plays games, even comes with some good features, RTS, RTG, an in-game cheat menu. Yay, I get that too. But I just want a sturdy card, it plays my games, it plays my music, videos, and more crap. Homebrew, yes, the homebrew scene is good. If we can get something to play games for free, why not get that at a cheap price too. Who is the retard who will pay more on a CycloDS, when you can still play your ROMs. Save your money. The three main cards on the scene are the Acekard 2/RPG, Supercard DS-One, and the dreaded CycloDS. It's a good card, I'm going to say that, but why pay $50+ on it? I think $30 is better, then I would have bought it. The Acekard RPG may be good too, a 8GB MicroSD HC would be like $35, and a card like $30 or $25 average. That's about $65, which is still better that the CycloDS+8GB.

Thank you for reading my post! And have a nice day, asshole...

j/k

 

[wifi1]

After reading all this, or most of it anyway, I thought I'd chime in to say that I agree with golden in the fact that you are saving a lot of money. Now personally, I got a CycloDS and an R4 for my family. It really depends on the situation. For me, I wanted the features the CycloDS, and hence I got it instead of whining about how expensive it is. My family could care less about SDHC or all the other features the CycloDS offered so as long as it played games, hence the R4. I wouldn't say I am rich, since I didn't pay for the R4, only the CycloDS, but the fact here is, if you want a CycloDS, just get it. It's as simple as that.

Before I got the Cyclo, I probably spent $200 on DS games, most of which I got when they went on sale and stuff over the span of a year and a half. But now, I get to play any game I want which I probably would never have played to begin with since they may not be "Must have" games, games that I would actually save money for and buy. I totally understand that some people don't have money to spend on games, but if you're at that point, you should worry more about feeding yourself and paying the bills than being able to play DS games.

My main point is, if you want it, get it. If not, don't complain. In the long run, it's an investment, a very smart investment which will at the very least cover the extra cost. If you're too poor for a CycloDS, you should think about your priorities and how gaming should fit in it or even get the cheaper flashcard. Honestly, you can still play games, just not DS games. I for one don't own any of the next-gen systems, but that doesn't mean I couldn't play DS games, or older games through emulation as well if I hadn't the money for a Cyclo.

 

[golden]

I bought a Supercard DS-One because it was cheaper yes, I know. I hardly get to order online since I'm only 13, and at the time I only had $50, and I only get money on my birthday or on Christmas(actually, I get stuff, games) and that's it. And I hardly am able to get imports so that's what I'm using it for too. The only imports I bought were Jump Ultimate Stars, and Naruto Gekitou Ninja Taisen EX, and it was on $20, and I had hardly any money just to buy that+freeloader. (I was pissed when it wouldn't work, but then came GeckoOS

) Now if I could pay $10 for a new game I would. And buy imports at a store for just maybe $5 or $10 I would. I like having the box and the manual. Nintendo, you forced me to this. If you put stuff for less, I know it costs a lot of money to make a game, but uf you made more consoles, and cheaper games and accessories, then you could make more money because you make more sales. And I got lucky, my brother is getting me a 8GB MicroSDHC for my birthday since he knew I was ordering the Supercard. I don't care for quality, I just want it to do my shit. If it takes two seconds less on the CycloDS, who fucking cares? What can you do in 2 seconds? And give me crap, "Add that up and you wasted a lot of time", shut the hell up, it's separately, so I don't care, now if I had to wait all that time at once, I'd be pissed. But it's a good enough card, it plays games, even comes with some good features, RTS, RTG, an in-game cheat menu. Yay, I get that too. But I just want a sturdy card, it plays my games, it plays my music, videos, and more crap. Homebrew, yes, the homebrew scene is good. If we can get something to play games for free, why not get that at a cheap price too. Who is the retard who will pay more on a CycloDS, when you can still play your ROMs. Save your money. The three main cards on the scene are the Acekard 2/RPG, Supercard DS-One, and the dreaded CycloDS. It's a good card, I'm going to say that, but why pay $50+ on it? I think $30 is better, then I would have bought it. The Acekard RPG may be good too, a 8GB MicroSD HC would be like $35, and a card like $30 or $25 average. That's about $65, which is still better that the CycloDS+8GB.

Thank you for reading my post! And have a nice day, asshole...

j/k

You sound kind of mad at yourself for some reason. Oh and don't give anyone that crap I bolded. You can't blame anyone but yourself for it. Again, I am not saying it is a bad thing but don't be a coward and say stuff like that.

Wifi1, I agree 99% but where you said "if you are too poor for a cyclo..." how can they be too poor if they could buy the DS for a past time hobby for themselves? I understand there are exceptions but let's talk about the general non exceptioned puplic.

 

[psycoblaster]

So let me get this right. $50 is not a lot for little kids who got that "$130 ds lite" as a gift?
Not everyone has a job or has a steady income of money. And there are many parents who struggle to make ends meet but still buy presents for their children.
If you don't think $50 is a lot, you need to think about the value of money.
Just because you have a lot of it doesn't mean everyone else has.

I used to be stuck on a game a month, thats only $50 for an entire month dude.
Just because the price has gone down doesn't mean everyone can afford it. Even though slot 2 cards were really expensive, all these kids only got into the scene after the massive popularity of slot 1 cards like the r4. A slot 2 card would've been impossible for kids like that.

Even though by buying this flashcard they're saving thousands of dollars, its not money they have at hand right now. You buy games gradually as you finish the last one, not all of them at once.

So if they got a 130$ ds lite as a gift, if they don't get a flashcart, they have to pay this 35$ for a game anyways.
And you think someone will ONLY play 1 single nds game with his DS? well, probably no.
Just think of it in this way -
there are NO differences between buying a flashcart or an official game cartridge.

 

[Toni Plutonij]

The Acekard RPG may be good too, a 8GB MicroSD HC would be like $35, and a card like $30 or $25 average. That's about $65, which is still better that the CycloDS+8GB.

How the heck did you come to that?!
Where can you buy AK RPG for $30 or $25 average.......AK RPG is more expencive than Cyclo!!

 

[touchmyichi]

Let's look at it from this angle.

Say that you are some guy who has a DS and doesn't feel like paying money for games. He is only really interested in games, which after all is the point of the DS. Anyways, he picks up a TTDS (or R4, whatever) , figures it out, and can get all of his games for free playing like they should retail. Honestly, for 20 dollars that's a superb deal and will do almost anything a gamer would want if he wanted simply to play free games without any negative results.

All the higher end flash carts are for those of us who want to go far beyond what the retail game would get us with cheats, better file systems, performance, changes to the game through the cart's menu, frequent updates (I guess this is more important), etc etc. The point is, many are content simply with playing the games provided that they run well and they have full compatibility (something nearly all of these can get you). Don't get me wrong, I think that these extra features of higher end carts are fun and often useful, but they're simply only additional beyond the point of playing the game. We also have to remember how great even the cheap flash carts are on their own right because of their ability to play every game free with pretty convincing performance (remember, this is just in terms in how the game itself runs). If something like the TTDS or R4 was without precedent or knowledge of the cyclods we would all be beside ourselves in glee.

Anyways, what I'm really trying to say is you have to access how important these extra features are to you or if you are content with simply getting your games for free and playing just like commercial games(which I believe obviously, is pretty freaking awesome already). However, I agree that people shouldn't be complaining or searching for carts that would deliver the cyclods advantages for 20 dollars. If you want all these extra features and have the money, simply buy the Cyclods.

So if we really simply this it can be seen as-
DSL (130) + TTDS (24) + 2gb microsd (10- at frys) = 164 (probably shitty guesswork on my part) OR 193 for all the extra features of cyclods if that is important to you.

For many it may be worth it to trim that extra 30ish off. After all, when you start spending that much more money average on luxuries it really starts adding up.

 

[Fo0+]

I don't have much to say except that you don't "save" money on buying stuff even if it means that you don't have to spend money on buying something else afterwards. If you don't buy anything at all, that's saving, but if you buy something it's automatically spending no matter how much it helps with decreasing further purchases. This kind of forward-thinking is strange to me. "You save thousands of dollars!", so you "save" money you've never had and never had any plans on ever spending?

And of course you should check and compare prizes. If you buy something expensive you show the retailers that it's okay to keep a high prize for the products. It's called economy. "Save" the money for other things.
"Oh, I can buy this fancy flashcart for this HUGE amount of money and that's really cool, 'cause I want the best thing there is! And since I'm a pirate I can at least buy the _original_ flashcart instead of a clone (with the exact same functionality and quality) and that means I'm better than everyone else."

The only thing I can agree with is that the extreme whining on the forums is exaggerated.

 

[alex]

The Acekard RPG may be good too, a 8GB MicroSD HC would be like $35, and a card like $30 or $25 average. That's about $65, which is still better that the CycloDS+8GB.

How the heck did you come to that?!
Where can you buy AK RPG for $30 or $25 average.......AK RPG is more expencive than Cyclo!!

No, doesn't the RPG come with 8GB already? So it's like buying a flashcart+a 8GB MicroSD HC.

Acekard RPG= 65 at DealExtreme
CycloDS=55 at someplace...+8GB MicroSD, $35=90

Fixed...
Save money people, money doesn't fall from the sky. Spend it on something else... Like a condom!

 

[xcalibur]

So let me get this right. $50 is not a lot for little kids who got that "$130 ds lite" as a gift?
Not everyone has a job or has a steady income of money. And there are many parents who struggle to make ends meet but still buy presents for their children.
If you don't think $50 is a lot, you need to think about the value of money.
Just because you have a lot of it doesn't mean everyone else has.

I used to be stuck on a game a month, thats only $50 for an entire month dude.
Just because the price has gone down doesn't mean everyone can afford it. Even though slot 2 cards were really expensive, all these kids only got into the scene after the massive popularity of slot 1 cards like the r4. A slot 2 card would've been impossible for kids like that.

Even though by buying this flashcard they're saving thousands of dollars, its not money they have at hand right now. You buy games gradually as you finish the last one, not all of them at once.

So if they got a 130$ ds lite as a gift, if they don't get a flashcart, they have to pay this 35$ for a game anyways.
And you think someone will ONLY play 1 single nds game with his DS? well, probably no.
Just think of it in this way -
there are NO differences between buying a flashcart or an official game cartridge.

But those who are "too poor for a cyclo" don't buy many games to begin with.
For the 4 years I had my DS, I only bought 6 games. THEN I got a flashcard.

 

[alex]

I had mine for less, I had maybe like 12 games! But then I stopped and I'm waiting... for IT!

 

[TossGirl]

I think that it's better to save up your money for a good flash cart more than an "ok" one. That's why I chose to buy a Cyclo DS. When you buy a flash cart you most likely want the best one that your money has to offer and saving your money to get that best cart will be the best deal in the end.

 

[LuOmeoga]

The Acekard RPG may be good too, a 8GB MicroSD HC would be like $35, and a card like $30 or $25 average. That's about $65, which is still better that the CycloDS+8GB.

How the heck did you come to that?!
Where can you buy AK RPG for $30 or $25 average.......AK RPG is more expencive than Cyclo!!

No, doesn't the RPG come with 8GB already? So it's like buying a flashcart+a 8GB MicroSD HC.

Acekard RPG= 65 at DealExtreme
CycloDS=55 at someplace...+8GB MicroSD, $35=90

Fixed...
Save money people, money doesn't fall from the sky. Spend it on something else... Like a condom!

Wow.... o.o
Acekards on board memory is 8 GBITS not GIGABYTE... that's only 1 GB. So no, it's not cheaper.
And condoms are free... go to the doctor's office?

 

[AndreXL]

This topic has given quite some valid points on why one would care about wanting to buy a cheaper flashcart.
Do understand that it might not be logical on your side, that will not stop the one that bought the cheaper alternative.

If it's still hard to understand, simply put, it's the buyer's choice.
The valid points, and even the invalid points ARE the reasons they did that. It happens.
We make decisions. good or bad, we still make them. As long as you learned from it, well and good. If not, sorry about that.

 

[LuOmeoga]

Now my post relevant to this topic:

In my case, yes my parents do have money, but do I see it? I think not. Recently it was my birthday and I got a little money. I don't usually get money and I have no job so I have to budget my money correctly to get what I want and I had to plan what I was going to get to get the best out of what money I had. And yes money is less important that quality but it still counts. Right now you sound like a snotty rich person. I mean money is of importance when you're thinking of what you're buying. Why do you think Wal Mart is the richest business in the world? Because they sell things at a cheap price. And most people who do get flashcarts are kids. How are they supposed to get cash? I mean when you buy you're NDS you usually only get a game or two to start out with because they don't have enough money to buy everything they want. Yes, it is better in the long run but right now people might not have the extra 20 or 30 bucks to get it.

 

[alex]

Man, some people can really be annoying, I'd rather hear some noob go:

izz seez therrz an isoooozzz looaddarr!11

Than listen to this crap. We get it, you want to mess with our mind to do the stupid thing and pay $55 dollars to buy something you can get for $28 and a better build.

 

[sbwolf]

Point 1 - You are right, there is no such thing as an expensive flashcard when you look at the money they will save you. If all flashcards cost £300 they would still be value for money providing you used 10-15 games or more in the flashcards life.

Point 2 - People will always try to find a bargain ... unless you have money to throw away then you try to save money where you can.

Point 3 - Buying a flashcard purely based on cost is both stupid and counterproductive (cheaper cards are usually cheaper for a reason whether it is build quality, software support, compatibility, etc)

Point 4 - GBAtemps reviews are there so people can see what card is best for them without having to ask forum users. People are just lazy and don't want to read through the pros and cons, etc so they would rather ask a complete stranger on a forum instead.

Point 5 - I own a cheap flashcard (Edge) but it wasn't the cheapest (DSTT), based on the reviews on here and other sites I chose the Edge as it's reviews were far better overall. I didn't however buy it based on price. I was looking for an R4 or Cyclo on Amazon but all they had were these 2 so I decided to research them as I know that cheap can be bad sometimes.

Point 6 - I spent well over £150 on my first 2 cards ... a G6 (slot-2) and a S/Card lite (slot-2) so I am amazed by how cheap these cards are now so I'll state again ... There is no such thing as an expensive flashcard.

Point 7 - OP needs to chill

 

[Panzer Tacticer]

I don't know what's more tragic, the OPs original wall of text where he barely makes it legible that he finds it hard to deal with people whining over the price of a flash cart.

Or

People expecting anyone to care that little Johnny can't afford every game in the Nintendo inventory because fate didn't make him both rich and a brat at the same time

Oh no, the little snot can't afford to buy Nintendo DS games willy nilly.

Newsflash, no one has money coming out there ears eh.
I currently have 400 bucks in my wallet, oh yippee or hurray.
No wait, I am expected to give Visa some of that money, and Bell Canada wants some of it too.
And then my wife and son likely plan to continue eating all danged month too.

I guess I really only "sort of" have 400 bucks in my wallet.

The flash cart is suddenly looking better eh.

So what, it's not an excuse to steal is it? No.

But shit, OP has a point. When do we just tell people to stop sounding so f**King cheap?
"Oh they want to charge me an extra 10 bucks for that supposedly better flash cart."
Oh shut the f**k up.
I don't give a shit if you are 5 15 or 50. I don't care if you are someone's kid, or just a cheap bastard at heart.

And golden, would it hurt you to use some f**king paragraphs in your posts? They're free ya know.

 

[Gus122000]

tl;dr but, i want to know what hes talking about so clifnotes ?

 

[DanTheManMS]

tl;dr but, i want to know what hes talking about so clifnotes ?

If you really wanted to know what he was talking about, you'd read the post. Laziness is not an excuse.

 

[Toni Plutonij]

The Acekard RPG may be good too, a 8GB MicroSD HC would be like $35, and a card like $30 or $25 average. That's about $65, which is still better that the CycloDS+8GB.

How the heck did you come to that?!
Where can you buy AK RPG for $30 or $25 average.......AK RPG is more expencive than Cyclo!!

No, doesn't the RPG come with 8GB already? So it's like buying a flashcart+a 8GB MicroSD HC.

Acekard RPG= 65 at DealExtreme
CycloDS=55 at someplace...+8GB MicroSD, $35=90

Fixed...
Save money people, money doesn't fall from the sky. Spend it on something else... Like a condom!

Wow.... o.o
Acekards on board memory is 8 GBITS not GIGABYTE... that's only 1 GB. So no, it's not cheaper.
And condoms are free... go to the doctor's office?

Thanks LuOmeoga!! That's my point.......GB isn't the same as Gb......

Acekard RPG is the most expensive slot 1 cart, so learn a little about stuff you're mentioning lostsoul5673..

QUOTE

Man, some people can really be annoying, I'd rather hear some noob go:

izz seez therrz an isoooozzz looaddarr!11

Than listen to this crap. We get it, you want to mess with our mind to do the stupid thing and pay $55 dollars to buy something you can get for $28 and a better build.

And you missed the point of this topic completely!!
The OP isn't "messing with your mind at all", he's annoyed by people bitchin' how $60 for a flashcart is too much money.....And I completely understand him!

If you (I'm talking generally now) don't want to spend money, OK, but don't make topic about which cart to buy, and when you get a suggestion to buy a Cyclo, AK RPG or M34 Real, don't complain how it's pricey, how it's too expensive and shit like that..
Just buy yourself N5 and shut up then!