JXD S7800? Seems like a pretty obscure device.

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    If this is the wrong section, I apologize...So I just recently heard of this Android tablet, it boasts a quad-core 1.8 GHz CPU (one model version anyway), a 7" 1280 x 800 IPS screen, 2 GB of RAM, dual analog sticks, a d-pad, shoulder buttons, it looks like it would be one helluva table for emulation and other types of gaming, and it's reasonably priced too, going for $178 on Amazon. They even showcase PSX and N64 emulation on here http://boards.dingoonity.org/jxd-devices/jxd-s7800-quad-core-will-be-released!/ looks to emulate very, very well.

    Except for Snes emulation, the sound was way off and spotty, are there Snes9x ports that are actually based off of 1.53 and not 1.43/1.51, after Blargg's S-SMP code was implemented? I've yet to see an Android port of Snes9x with such a feature. Anyways, what I'm trying to find out is, would this be a better route to go than getting a PSP for homebrew? I only ask since this thing seems to be quite capable and has the advantage of full speed N64 emulation, even HDMI out from what I've seen.
     
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    I had the JXD S7300. It was the model that came out right before the S7800A and S7800B. The only major complaints I had about that tablet was the analogs. The Left analog was actually assigned along with the directional pad, so it wasn't true analog (or something to that effect), then there was the fact that the analogs them selves were not sticks but were more like disc pads. I'm not a huge fan of analog (except the Gamecube's), but I certainly did not like the disc pad thing the 7300 had going on.

    My minor complaints were related to the type of plastic they used for the casing. Seriously, it's a silly thing to complain about. It's solid, holds up fine, but it's the texture that makes it feel like the sort of plastic toys in those vending machines in the front of stores are made of. Again though, like I said the casing is solid, and the screen is certainly not cheap as it is very responsive!
    The other minor complaint was the location of the L2 and R2 Trigger Buttons. It would have been nicer if they'd designed this a bit more like the Wii U pad, putting the L2 and R2 triggers under the pad rather than besides L1 and R2. Though a lot of people do not mind this, and if it does begin to bother you, you can always plug in a wired PS2 or XBOX 360 controller and use that instead (with required software and configuration).
    Oh yes, and the official 7300 firmware seemed limited, so I used alternative firmware and that shrank my internal memory from 8Gb to 1.5Gb, which is why I sent it back to the manufacturer.

    Now instead of a refurbished S7300, I am getting the S7800b instead (I had to negotiate). From what I am seeing the only thing that has not been improved is the plastic, and the analog positions, as for the software, CPU, RAM, Analogs, and anything else that held the S7300 back, they look as if they have been corrected, and this reflects in ever review and demonstration video I have watched on Youtube. The other cool thing I noticed is that the analogs look more like the yellow analog on the Gamecube controller. I'm eager to see how they feel under my thumbs!

    Oh, and I also heard one complaint, and that was that there was no gripping material under the device, though I figured that something of the sort could be purchased cheaply offline and applied, sort of like grip tape for a skateboard, but softer. Also I hear these are a pain in the ass for people with small hands.

    In regards to TV input, it's great, plus this should have the horse power to play hi-resolution videos.

    Mine should be in within a week or two, I'm sure I'll be on here raving or moaning about it. Though I'm thinking with it's advanced Dreamcast, PSP, and DOS emulator, I should be in heaven. Then to consider all the productivity applications the Android has. I know I'm definitely going to want to give Fruity Loops a spin!
     
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    OH yes, and in regards to SNES. There is also RetroArch for Android.
     
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    Really, good, because the Snes emulator the video review used sucked big time, sounds as bad as Zsnes. I forgot there was an Android port :P Then there's PPSSPP which has gotten very good over the past year :D I'll watch more videos, just to see it in action as it looks like a good device for surfing the net, watching videos and emulation :D The plastic casing does sound kinda shady though, oh well.

    Then there's the A and the B model, does it matter which of the two I get? And I do admit to being somewhat wary as there aren't very many interviews for said device.
     
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    I've been hard pressed finding many written reviews, the majority of what I've seen has been on Youtube, and again, all of them were primarily positive, though one guy like me didn't care for the L2 and R2 placement, and another said his internet on it was as slow as dial up, though I'm sure that was a personal issue because the 7300 flew on the internet when I had it, so I'd imagine the 7800 is no different.

    As for A and B. The B boasts more RAM and CPU, though I'm not sure if anything else.

    http://www.jxd.hk/products.asp?id=639&selectclassid=009006


    Another feature I forgot to mention is streaming from your PC to your tablet. I guess your right analog automatically takes control of the mouse, and from the one review I saw that covered this feature, he said the gaming experience was good. So I guess this might be the poor man's Shield also.

    EDIT: Now that I'm having a better look at it, the analogs don't look so much like the Gamecube ones. None the less it's better than those discs. I wonder if the analogs could be replaced though? I've heard of people doing that on other devices.
     
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    Cool! ..just noticed on the n64 video that the analogs work as real analogs (not only up, down, left, right ..as old JXD used to work) ..this could actually be a good investment..
     
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    This indeed looks tempting, and I was originally thinking about a PSP while back, but after seeing what this machine can do, I'm not like "screw that" and am seriously thinking about getting one of these. Now, with the firmware and Android version being at 4.2.2, is there anything I should worry about, and for emulators, you download the packaged installers like you would in Windows, correct? I'm not very knowledgeable on Android OS :P




    Mupen64 Plus is a good emulator, and the controls look solid, also looks like full speed too :D
     
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    I have one it works actually really well the controls are much better then the s7300's were and the performance is a little better.
    I mainly use retroarch and it works really well for 8-16bit and arcade systems and handhelds.
    DS PSX emulation are perfect but n64 dreamcast and psp are still wip and are always getting better.
     
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    I'll be darned, glad to know that it isn't a super cheaply-made device, which was one of my fears as I didn't know much about this device, and the price seems to be a lot cheaper http://dealsprime.com/tablet-pc/bra...console-rk3188-1-8ghz-7-ips-1280-800-8gb.html only $144 or so. How's the battery life, does it suck, is it decent at all?

    I believe PPSSPP is for Android as well, though I'm not sure if it's matched to the PC port.
     
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    Yes ppsspp is the psp emulator and has similar compatibility as the pc version but until optimization will need frameskip om many games.
    As for battery life can usually pull 4-6 hours of gaming so better then my 3ds xl so cant really complain.
     
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    Dayum, not bad, not bad at all, this really is very tempting, and I'm glad that PSX as well as 8/16-bit emulation is that good. Skype, Chrome, so many cool things to do on there :D
     
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    My knowledge with Android is somewhat limited as well. I'm not up to date on any issues (if any) in regards to software written for newer or older versions of the Android OS. All I can say is that I only recall a couple of programs giving me any real issues when I had the 7300. I'd pretty much have to wait for my S7800 comes in to be able to tell you for sure.

    As for how to install the software. You can use the Google store, then there are certain sites that host their own APK files which you can install using an APK installer. Then of course there are always those alternative means to acquire certain APK's that can "officially" only be obtained via the Google Store, and install them via and APK installer instead...
    ...which is what I prefer, that way I don't have to be near the internet all the time just to install things.

    As for Android as an OS. Some people hate it, others love it. As for me, every tablet based OS I have ever used seemed pretty much the same to me. They are pretty much look and function in more or less the same way. Though the main difference between say the iPod and an Android device is polish vs access.

    The iPod is closed. You are blocked from doing what you want as you would with Windows, Linux, Haiku, Amiga OS, and on and on and on. Where as Android is slightly less polished (not by much any more), but is open to allow you to do pretty much what ever you want to do. And if you can't do it, then there are always groups out there putting together their own alternative firmwares for various devices to make them more accessible. Though again, it looks as if the S7800's software is not nearly as restricted as the 7300's.

    Oh and in regards to emulators. There are free and commercial ones available on the Google Store which sometimes blow away the free ones that you often get with devices like this.

    Epsxe is even available for Android! :)

    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.epsxe.ePSXe


     
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    I thought ePSXe was free, guess not lol. Oh well :D Glad to know it's gotten better and more stable, but I still feel kinda wary with Chinese-made electronics, still, seems like an otherwise very solid device, and $145 ain't bad for the price!
     
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    I can't recall if ePSXe was a free download or not, my screen only says installed which is odd because I'm in Linux, not on a tablet. :)
    I do recall paying for a few emulators, though I don't recall many of them being more than $1 - $5.

     
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    Oh yeah, forgot you could install Linux on that sucker, but I'll keep watching videos and make a decision. It has everything good about portability. I can't say the same about a CR-48 lol :D
     
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    Huh? Well Foxi4 was telling me earlier about how mobile devices are becoming incredibly powerful. I guess obscurity isn't as important as power... it also sounds to me like a good number of people on this website buy mobile devices like this to play their PSP/etc. homebrew/games on emulators.
     
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    No doubt, screw the CR-48!
    When my S7800b arrives, I'll be very open if I find things about it that I see as a deal breaker. I'm quite leery with Chinese goods my self. The 7300 was almost there but not quite, so I'm feeling that with this one, they should have arrived. Looks like they took advice from the various complaints they received from users.
     
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    Your avatar reminds me, the first game I want to test streaming with this device is Half-Life and Opposing Force! :)
     
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    Yeah, he wasn't kidding, this slaughters the PSP and a lot of other mobile devices when it comes to versatility :D



    Yeah, I don't know if spending the money at this moment would be judicious, and yet at the same time, to have something portable that can do so much would be freakin awesome B-)