1. Subzero100

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    One reason why i never installed this is because there really was no reason to, and when i found out that Microsoft installed spyware on it permanently changed my mind. I've seen alot of custom windows downloads everywhere, so does it mean it's safe to use?
     
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  2. CPG

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    use windows 7

    trust me
     
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    Hello. 1111smiley_emoticons_seb_zylinder.gif


    Yes,absolute.
    Like

    - Windows 3.11
    - Windows 95
    - Windows NT
    - Windows 98
    - Windows ME
    - Windows 2000
    - Windows XP
    - Windows Vista
    - Windows 7
    - Windows 8

    Every Windows Version deserves the Right to be described as absolutely trustworthy and,of course,sa(f)e to use.:)

    Good Day. 1111smiley_emoticons_seb_zylinder.gif
     
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    Windows 7 doesn't get security updates afaik.
    I would recommend you to use Linux specifically:
    - Linux Manjaro
    - Linux Ubuntu, you can search others too.
    It may seem Linux is nerd-ish and hard to use but it's not. There are pre-installed app stores that you can find most of the things that you are searching that are even better than App(le) Store and Microsoft Store
     
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    microsoft exaggerates how bad no security updates is, so if he had to, i would say he should use windows 7.

    But if we're recommending linux distros then...
    Pop OS
    Manjaro
    ArcoLinux
    Linux Mint
     
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    if you keep windows 7 and 8 up to date it has the same """spyware""" btw
     
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    There are ways to disable telemetry, such as o&o shutup10, W7/8 had it added as well.

    The biggest issues I have with W10 is that sometimes it just breaks, like the other week, did a normal reboot and it just refused to login.

    So I'd suggest having a scheduled backup of the system partition if possible, only reason I didn't restore was that I had intended on clean installing anyway.

    It can be an issue though, to the point that MS has had to release patches for certain exploits because so many people were being affected.

    Before considering switching to Linux, I'd suggest trying them in a VM first to see if it does what you want it to.

    Even between distros there can be compatibility issues.
     
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    Ignore anyone that tells you to "just use Windows 7" and other such garbage, because Windows 7 had most of the data collection systems backported years ago. If you're using any update Windows 7 version from like 2015 or so, congratulations, you have the same spyware and you're just a moron.

    IMO, install Windows 10 LTSB. This removes most of the data collection services like Cortana, Edge, and most of the Metro apps, and is still able to receive security updates.

    Otherwise, just use Linux.
     
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    man, finally someone with common sense realizing that 7 is no safer than windows 10
     
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    Yes, testing distros in VM is a great option.
    Even if you disable some settings in Windows it will still get your data from another service (i.e. MS Office, Edge, etc...)
    Since Linux is open-source exploits are patched fastly too.
     
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    if you don't use Windows 10 LTSB, you can run "privatezilla" to disable a large part of the telemetry.
    I f you don't really need windows (to play "only windows " game or use a specific software), sure you'll find safe happiness with a linux distribution ;-)
     
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    In diagnostics & feedback you can just set to required diagnostic data. Then it will only send data necessary to get windows updates.

    The whole telemetry thing has been way overblown. I would rather trust Microsoft than some randoms off the internet that provide a hacked version of windows or an exe that will make my copy of windows "safe".

    LTSB is kinda pointless too. Although I would never use Home, as Pro has too many necessary features.
     
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  14. The Real Jdbye

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    No one should be using Windows 7 anymore.
    If you are worried, use something like Spybot Anti-Beacon (what I use)
    Microsoft has publicized exactly what data they collect from telemetry. It's a long list, but there's nothing there that should have you worried.
    Even so, not being able to turn it off is just something I don't like, and that's why I use Spybot Anti-Beacon.
     
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    i see people cant even answer a simple question, and im not installing spyware on my pc just to play 1 game.
     
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    In addition to that now you can play most of the single-player games with Steam on Linux and some multiplayer games with Windows 10 KVM. So, I really don't see a reason to stay in Windows except if you need Adobe or another program that isn't compatible with Linux and necessary for you or your job.
     
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    Still on windows 7 - It simply works.
     
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    I eventually caved and got windows 10 because of better app scaling for high dpi monitors, the microsoft store for one single game, and "better" hdr and 4k support. If you want/need some of those things you might consider upgrading but if you're running a 1080p setup and don't play Bedrock Minecraft I would say stay on 7.

    The amount of times I've had to enter this shit called Group Policy Editor just to have something work is absolutely insane. Features in the "security" section of Win10 mess up a lot of piracy shit for me also. That's not even mentioning updates which are somewhat disableable, that is until they aren't and then all of your settings get reverted and it's quite a hassle as far as daily upkeep for just a simple desktop os.
     
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    I've been running Windows 10 for five years, I have no idea what this "daily upkeep" is. I don't recall any settings getting reverted, let alone all of my settings.

    If you leave your computer running processes overnight then I would suggest using Windows 10 Pro and disabling automatic updates https://www.windowscentral.com/how-stop-updates-installing-automatically-windows-10

    The only other annoyance is if you have slow internet as Windows will download updates in the background and will happily attempt to max out your downstream, which is annoying if you are trying to watch netflix. You can set a maximum speed in Settings now.

    I've hated Linux (and all Unix) since the 90's. I don't see a reason to run Linux unless you have software that hasn't been ported to Windows, or you are forced to use Linux for your job.
     
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    There is one big reason to run Linux: Open Source.
    This makes so that the exploits get patched more quickly since there are multiple developers checking it and makes you sure that the apps and the OS doesn't spy on you.
    - There are additional features like, Live and Proper Kernel/ System updates that let's you use your PC while updating and doesn't break your PC.
    - There are more customizability options.
    - After some time app installations can even become easier than Windows or Macintosh.
    - Great compatibility for Windows apps/ games and option to run Bare Metal VM(KVM) so fi you really need an application or game that is only on Windows or Linux you can use that VM without having huge performance drops.
    - It's free.
     
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