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rockstar99 said:
guys i dint start this topic it was somewhere in the last page of the dstt forums i clicked it to read it but there was not even one post so i asked why are some threads not visible to be this topic was not started by me
It's because the server moved or sth and a lot of random posts got deleted. (or something like that)
 

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CannonFoddr said:
Also - whereas 'Bri' seems biased towards the AK2 (I say biased since most posts like this one, 'Bri' mentions the AK2 more often than others IMHO), I rather support the DSTT(i) with Moonshell2+Ysmenu combo (I will admit that I do like the AK2i interface though)

I have always admitted that I am biased towards the Acekard 2, and that others may have differing opinions about the "best" flash cart. However, the reason I mentioned the Acekard 2 here is because it costs only about $5 more than the DSTT but is far and away superior to the DSTT. So the Acekard 2 was mentioned because it's a better alternative to the DSTT in a similar price range, not because I'm biased towards the Acekard 2 (which I don't deny).

Since I'm so biased towards the Acekard 2, it should be pointed out that if you really like the Moonshell 2 + YSMenu combination, the Acekard 2 will run both of those as well. But I doubt you'd really want to since the AKAIO menu for the Acekard is one of the nicest menus for any flash cart at any price.

QUOTEIt really is down to preference whether you can call the DSTT bad or not.

In my opinion, there is little question that the DSTT is not as good as other flash carts (it's the only one I know of that doesn't support the most basic features such as navigating folders or alphabetizing games). The only advantage of the DSTT that I can think of is that it costs about $5 less.

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I havent recieved my AK2i yet. But I can tell, from the flashcarts I have right now (Supercard DS One, EZ-Vi, DSTT, Edge), the DSTT has the worst build quality + they havent updated their firmware for a while, so I dont really see any difference between DSTT and R4DS..
 

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Kamui said:
I havent recieved my AK2i yet. But I can tell, from the flashcarts I have right now (Supercard DS One, EZ-Vi, DSTT, Edge), the DSTT has the worst build quality + they havent updated their firmware for a while, so I dont really see any difference between DSTT and R4DS..
WTF dude? Just look at the official review. They say the DSTT has some of the best build quality of any flasher.
 

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Well "MY SAMPLE" fell apart just after I opened the box.
Everytime I take it out of my DS, it just falls apart, I have to push it hardly to keep the cart in one piece..

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oh and by the way, the DSTT build design has changed various times from batch to batch. Plastic springloader etc. etc.
 

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Kamui said:
Well "MY SAMPLE" fell apart just after I opened the box.
Everytime I take it out of my DS, it just falls apart, I have to push it hardly to keep the cart in one piece..
i've had actual DS games that were broken new out of the box. with chinese manufacturing you never really know dude.
 

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So you see the point.
I wont take out infos from the review and copy paste it here. I am telling from MY EXPERIENCE and about the SAMPLE I HAVE!
You do realize that the review is 1.5 years old?
 

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Overlord Natie said:
rockstar99 said:
guys i dint start this topic it was somewhere in the last page of the dstt forums i clicked it to read it but there was not even one post so i asked why are some threads not visible to be this topic was not started by me
It's because the server moved or sth and a lot of random posts got deleted. (or something like that)
yes to speed up the site, the first (random number) posts were moved to the archive. Its on all boards, not just DSTT
 

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Advice Dog said:
WTF dude? Just look at the official review. They say the DSTT has some of the best build quality of any flasher.

Newer models of the DSTT snap together rather than being glued shut. That makes them easier to open, but may lower the sturdiness of the flash cart.

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I don't see why people say the DSTT is bad.. It does it's job and it works. Unless you don't do your research, and ending up with a fake DSTT; still your fault.
 

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"Bad" is relative (the R4 is BAD), but people say the DSTT is bad because it doesn't have the most basic features that nearly all other flash carts have. For $5 more you can have a flash cart that alphabetizes games, navigates folders, runs GBA games directly from the menu, has multiple save slots, isn't laggy, is updated regularly, has nearly 100% compatibility, etc, etc.

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Why does the thread starter say "test84" but the person at the first post is rockstar99?

I apologize for being off-topic. I will not ask anymore.

I think it will be okay if people use an alternative firmware. DSision2 is out there and the maker might add commercial rom loading. MENUdo is about to come out. Moonshell 2 is great too. or YSMenu. Tons of decent alternatives that have frequent updates. I will never touch TTMenu again.
 

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KingdomBlade said:
I think it will be okay if people use an alternative firmware. DSision2 is out there and the maker might add commercial rom loading. MENUdo is about to come out. Moonshell 2 is great too. or YSMenu. Tons of decent alternatives that have frequent updates. I will never touch TTMenu again.

As far as I know, those are all menus and the ones that can load commercial ROMs rely on the official loader from TTMenu. That means that any updates will only affect the menu and not ROM compatibility.

QUOTE(k3vin369 @ Jun 24 2009, 07:02 PM) Same here, you can just buy this card for like $6.00, then replace the normal menu. tada! amazing-ness.

Or for $11 you can buy another flash cart with a great menu (that can, incidentally, still run all of those menus mentioned if you really wanted to).

-Bri
 

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Advice Dog said:
WTF dude? Just look at the official review. They say the DSTT has some of the best build quality of any flasher.
The DSTT has (probably) the lowest build quality of ANY flashcart ever.


QUOTE(Bri @ Jun 25 2009, 12:19 PM) Or for $11 you can buy another flash cart with a great menu (that can, incidentally, still run all of those menus mentioned if you really wanted to).
I'm not a huge fan of the DSTT, but if all you want is a cheap cart to play roms then why would you want to spend double to do the same thing? You say why spend $6 when you can spend $11 for little improvement, well why spend $11 when you can spend $20 and get some other cart.
 

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Bri said:
As far as I know, those are all menus and the ones that can load commercial ROMs rely on the official loader from TTMenu. That means that any updates will only affect the menu and not ROM compatibility.
Not necessary Bri
As you know I've got a DSTT(i)
- Recently I tried the DSTT Firmware (v1.17) & it wouldn't work with Starfy ROM, however using the Moonshell2+Ysmenu Combo, it worked with NO problems !!

Yes - I agree that updates to the 'file selectors' / 'Menus' should have no affect on compatibility, yet can you explain why the official TTDS firmware couldn't run the ROM yet the 3rd party combo did ?

After all - YSmenu uses "ttdldi.dat" (for Homebrew I guess) & "ttpatch.dat" (For ROMS ??) from the official firmware to run them

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testic-cancer said:
I'm not a huge fan of the DSTT, but if all you want is a cheap cart to play roms then why would you want to spend double to do the same thing? You say why spend $6 when you can spend $11 for little improvement, well why spend $11 when you can spend $20 and get some other cart.

Your questionable math skills notwithstanding, whether it's worth paying $5 more for another flash cart would depend on whether you think being able to sort games alphabetically, being able to navigate folders, being able to load GBA games directly from the menu, multiple save slots, an attractive and responsive menu, updating the firmware and cheats via WiFi, near-perfect compatibility, frequent updates, etc. are worth $5. In my opinion, most users will find that the DSTT has too many drawbacks compared to other flash carts despite a slightly lower price tag.

QUOTE(CannonFoddr @ Jun 25 2009, 06:55 AM) Yes - I agree that updates to the 'file selectors' / 'Menus' should have no affect on compatibility, yet can you explain why the official TTDS firmware couldn't run the ROM yet the 3rd party combo did ?

Updating infolib.dat and savlib.dat can also improve compatibility without changing the loader (I don't know about the particular game you mentioned). So it's possible that YSMenu has similar increased compatibility compared to the official menu even though they use the same loader. However, there will be some games that require a loader update in order for them to work, and those won't work with YSMenu or any other menu system that's based on the official loader.

-Bri
 

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Even games that require a firmware update you can just get em patched 99% of the time. The only games I can truly not play with this card are probably games about horses and other shovelware nobody really wants anyway. Most semi-popular games that you'd want to play at all are always patched eventually.
 

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Bri said:
Your questionable math skills notwithstanding,
How are the "maths skils" questionable? going from a $6 cart to a $11 cart is virtually a doubling of cost. For very little benefit.


QUOTE said:
whether it's worth paying $5 more for another flash cart would depend on whether you think being able to sort games alphabetically, being able to navigate folders, being able to load GBA games directly from the menu, multiple save slots, an attractive and responsive menu, updating the firmware and cheats via WiFi, near-perfect compatibility, frequent updates, etc. are worth $5.
Which is exactly what I said. If you think spending double the cost is worth it for those features, then go ahead. For someone who just wants a cheap way to play games then the DSTT is mostly fine.


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In my opinion, most users will find that the DSTT has too many drawbacks compared to other flash carts despite a slightly lower price tag.
"slightly lower" = almost half the price to the next cheapest.

Again, not the cart for me but I know plenty of people who are happy with them, despite seeing the "advanced features" that some of the flashcarts I own have.
 

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testic-cancer said:
How are the "maths skils" questionable? going from a $6 cart to a $11 cart is virtually a doubling of cost. For very little benefit.

"Virtually" doubling, maybe. Doubling, no. Very little benefit? I'd have to disagree.

QUOTE said:
Which is exactly what I said. If you think spending double the cost is worth it for those features, then go ahead. For someone who just wants a cheap way to play games then the DSTT is mostly fine.

I didn't disagree with you. I just don't think there are very many people who would say that saving $5 is worth the major drawbacks of the DSTT compared to other alternatives.

QUOTE said:
"slightly lower" = almost half the price to the next cheapest.

Slightly lower = $5. Roughly the cost of a fast food meal here in the U.S.

QUOTE
Again, not the cart for me but I know plenty of people who are happy with them, despite seeing the "advanced features" that some of the flashcarts I own have.

Again, I don't disagree that some people might feel that saving $5 is worth having a laggy menu that doesn't alphabetize games, navigate folders, receive menu updates, or have any of the other myriad features that are standard with nearly every other flash cart. I simply believe that those people are probably in the minority.

-Bri
 

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