Hacking How will we dump DSiWare games?

[Link5084]

Will DSiWare games be dumped hopefully? Is it possible?

 

[Hop2089]

DSi has government class security so we won't be able to dump any DSiware games anytime soon but it might happen sometime in the future.

 

[Vague Rant]

Uh, I'm pretty sure every DSiWare to date has already been dumped.

 

[redact]

Uh, I'm pretty sure every DSiWare to date has already been dumped.

those aren't real dumps, they are just the .bin files copied off the sd card which can only be used on the dsi they came from (like the wii)

 

[Link5084]

Come on, it has to be possible at some point

 

[Whizz]

Where exactly does the DSi store its DSiware games? Is it just the memory or does it have some other memory storage inside?

It is very likely that they will eventually be dumped, like with the Wii VC.

 

[raulpica]

The games dumped 'till now are just the encrypted BINs. They're linked to the DSi they were downloaded on, so they're prolly useless.

Recently, bushing has gave a look to a DSi and confirmed that the DSi has an architecture really similiar to the Wii one.

Then, to see some REAL DSiWare dumps we need:

1) A Homebrew Channel on the DSi or something similiar (

)
2) Filesystem dumper
3) DSi "WAD" Packer

That should be enough

 

[gameguy95]

the dsi can play dsi roms right? then the code to get past the security must be on the dsi somewhere! just find it!

 

[jesterscourt]

the dsi can play dsi roms right? then the code to get past the security must be on the dsi somewhere! just find it!

Yeah, because it's just that easy. ::looks at your post count::

 

[geoflcl]

^^
Hey, man. Post Count is an unfortunate discrimination for us newbies. (Sigh...)

ANYWAY, if the DSi's architecture is similar to the Wii's like bushing said, I'm sure those pesky little homebrewers will be hard at work exploiting the DSi's soon-to-be outdated security. And once they're successful, of course Nintendo's gonna try and throw a software update at us, just so the cycle can repeat all over again.

Or, that's what I think. It's just the way Nintendo works. I can almost see the bug N's programmers right now, hastily trying to gather up a quick-fix for the Acekard 2i.

 

[MegamanDSi]

Where exactly does the DSi store its DSiware games? Is it just the memory or does it have some other memory storage inside?

It is very likely that they will eventually be dumped, like with the Wii VC.

They are stored on to the system because
1. if they stored it on to an SD Card people can and put it on the internet and distribute it.

 

[UltraMagnus]

people said it was impossible to make a flashcard for the DSi, look how quickly they were proved wrong

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if it can be played, it can be cracked

 

[Narin]

people said it was impossible to make a flashcard for the DSi, look how quickly they were proved wrong

.

if it can be played, it can be cracked

It still is impossible to make a flashcard for the "DSi". The flashcards now simply use a real game by fool the DSi into booting up into NDS compatibility mode which restricts it to only the hardware available on a normal DS. Theres no DSi mode flashcards yet thats able to access any of the DSi hardware and features. Also Nintendo could easily release a firmware update that can block these flashcarts as well.

 

[Deleted User]

people said it was impossible to make a flashcard for the DSi, look how quickly they were proved wrong

.

if it can be played, it can be cracked

It still is impossible to make a flashcard for the "DSi". The flashcards now simply use a real game by fool the DSi into booting up into NDS compatibility mode which restricts it to only the hardware available on a normal DS. Theres no DSi mode flashcards yet thats able to access any of the DSi hardware and features. Also Nintendo could easily release a firmware update that can block these flashcarts as well.

I think he meant, people said it was impossible to make a flashcard that works on the DSi.

 

[Link5084]

people said it was impossible to make a flashcard for the DSi, look how quickly they were proved wrong

.

if it can be played, it can be cracked

It still is impossible to make a flashcard for the "DSi". The flashcards now simply use a real game by fool the DSi into booting up into NDS compatibility mode which restricts it to only the hardware available on a normal DS. Theres no DSi mode flashcards yet thats able to access any of the DSi hardware and features. Also Nintendo could easily release a firmware update that can block these flashcarts as well.

In the Wii's case, firmware updates are immune to modchips. So if Team Cyclops releases their DSi flashcart, do you think they'll be smart enough to provide immunity to firmware updates from blocking it?

 

[UltraMagnus]

people said it was impossible to make a flashcard for the DSi, look how quickly they were proved wrong

.

if it can be played, it can be cracked

It still is impossible to make a flashcard for the "DSi". The flashcards now simply use a real game by fool the DSi into booting up into NDS compatibility mode which restricts it to only the hardware available on a normal DS. Theres no DSi mode flashcards yet thats able to access any of the DSi hardware and features. Also Nintendo could easily release a firmware update that can block these flashcarts as well.

I think he meant, people said it was impossible to make a flashcard that works on the DSi.

that is exactly what I meant.

as for the current lack of cards that can boot the DSi in DSi mode, well, I would imagine people are working on that right now. but currently the is very little commercial demand for such a device, given what little use it would be.

 

[Kamika]

the dsi can play dsi roms right? then the code to get past the security must be on the dsi somewhere! just find it!

DSi roms? Don't you mean DS roms since the DSi is just an upgraded DS Lite with bigger screens and all that. It would be unfair to those with a DS Phat/Lite to make new games only work with the DSi.

 

[Link5084]

So will it be easy to dump DSiWare applications? And how will we store this in the SD Card?

 

[ball2012003]

i dont think it will be easy to dump the games
Off topic: when the dsi comes out in the US and Europe someone should just test to see if the working flashcarts for the dsi work
and if they do just dont update your firmware until someone says its okay to do so

 

[Ulieq]

Any update on this? Possible now?