Hacking How will we dump DSiWare games?

Hop2089

Cute>Hot
Member
Joined
Jan 31, 2008
Messages
3,808
Trophies
0
Age
35
Website
Visit site
XP
732
Country
United States
DSi has government class security so we won't be able to dump any DSiware games anytime soon but it might happen sometime in the future.
 

redact

‮҉
Member
Joined
Dec 2, 2007
Messages
3,161
Trophies
0
Location
-
XP
654
Country
Mauritania
Vague Rant said:
Uh, I'm pretty sure every DSiWare to date has already been dumped.

those aren't real dumps, they are just the .bin files copied off the sd card which can only be used on the dsi they came from (like the wii)
 

Whizz

When things don't go right, go left.
Member
Joined
Nov 20, 2007
Messages
628
Trophies
0
Location
Turn around...
Website
Visit site
XP
202
Country
Netherlands
Where exactly does the DSi store its DSiware games? Is it just the memory or does it have some other memory storage inside?

It is very likely that they will eventually be dumped, like with the Wii VC.
 

raulpica

With your drill, thrust to the sky!
Former Staff
Joined
Oct 23, 2007
Messages
11,056
Trophies
0
Location
PowerLevel: 9001
XP
5,713
Country
Italy
The games dumped 'till now are just the encrypted BINs. They're linked to the DSi they were downloaded on, so they're prolly useless.

Recently, bushing has gave a look to a DSi and confirmed that the DSi has an architecture really similiar to the Wii one.

Then, to see some REAL DSiWare dumps we need:

1) A Homebrew Channel on the DSi or something similiar (
tongue.gif
)
2) Filesystem dumper
3) DSi "WAD" Packer

That should be enough
tongue.gif
 

geoflcl

Permanent GBAtemp Newbie
Member
Joined
Jan 18, 2009
Messages
1,375
Trophies
0
Age
28
Website
loganderb.in
XP
501
Country
United States
^^
Hey, man. Post Count is an unfortunate discrimination for us newbies. (Sigh...)

ANYWAY, if the DSi's architecture is similar to the Wii's like bushing said, I'm sure those pesky little homebrewers will be hard at work exploiting the DSi's soon-to-be outdated security. And once they're successful, of course Nintendo's gonna try and throw a software update at us, just so the cycle can repeat all over again.

Or, that's what I think. It's just the way Nintendo works. I can almost see the bug N's programmers right now, hastily trying to gather up a quick-fix for the Acekard 2i.
tongue.gif
 

MegamanDSi

Active Member
Newcomer
Joined
Jan 26, 2009
Messages
41
Trophies
0
XP
78
Country
Canada
Whizz said:
Where exactly does the DSi store its DSiware games? Is it just the memory or does it have some other memory storage inside?

It is very likely that they will eventually be dumped, like with the Wii VC.

They are stored on to the system because
1. if they stored it on to an SD Card people can and put it on the internet and distribute it.
 

Narin

The Cheat Master, kupo!
Former Staff
Joined
Feb 19, 2008
Messages
2,629
Trophies
0
Age
37
Website
cheats.gbatemp.net
XP
1,059
Country
United States
UltraMagnus said:
people said it was impossible to make a flashcard for the DSi, look how quickly they were proved wrong
rolleyes.gif
.

if it can be played, it can be cracked

It still is impossible to make a flashcard for the "DSi". The flashcards now simply use a real game by fool the DSi into booting up into NDS compatibility mode which restricts it to only the hardware available on a normal DS. Theres no DSi mode flashcards yet thats able to access any of the DSi hardware and features. Also Nintendo could easily release a firmware update that can block these flashcarts as well.
 
D

Deleted User

Guest
Narin said:
UltraMagnus said:
people said it was impossible to make a flashcard for the DSi, look how quickly they were proved wrong
rolleyes.gif
.

if it can be played, it can be cracked

It still is impossible to make a flashcard for the "DSi". The flashcards now simply use a real game by fool the DSi into booting up into NDS compatibility mode which restricts it to only the hardware available on a normal DS. Theres no DSi mode flashcards yet thats able to access any of the DSi hardware and features. Also Nintendo could easily release a firmware update that can block these flashcarts as well.

I think he meant, people said it was impossible to make a flashcard that works on the DSi.
 

Link5084

Sword & Shield at your service
OP
Member
Joined
Aug 6, 2008
Messages
1,367
Trophies
0
Website
Visit site
XP
678
Country
United States
Narin said:
UltraMagnus said:
people said it was impossible to make a flashcard for the DSi, look how quickly they were proved wrong
rolleyes.gif
.

if it can be played, it can be cracked

It still is impossible to make a flashcard for the "DSi". The flashcards now simply use a real game by fool the DSi into booting up into NDS compatibility mode which restricts it to only the hardware available on a normal DS. Theres no DSi mode flashcards yet thats able to access any of the DSi hardware and features. Also Nintendo could easily release a firmware update that can block these flashcarts as well.

In the Wii's case, firmware updates are immune to modchips. So if Team Cyclops releases their DSi flashcart, do you think they'll be smart enough to provide immunity to firmware updates from blocking it?
 

UltraMagnus

hic sunt dracones
Member
Joined
Aug 2, 2007
Messages
1,964
Trophies
0
Age
33
Location
Portsmouth
Website
Visit site
XP
200
Country
warmijwilfaain said:
Narin said:
UltraMagnus said:
people said it was impossible to make a flashcard for the DSi, look how quickly they were proved wrong
rolleyes.gif
.

if it can be played, it can be cracked

It still is impossible to make a flashcard for the "DSi". The flashcards now simply use a real game by fool the DSi into booting up into NDS compatibility mode which restricts it to only the hardware available on a normal DS. Theres no DSi mode flashcards yet thats able to access any of the DSi hardware and features. Also Nintendo could easily release a firmware update that can block these flashcarts as well.

I think he meant, people said it was impossible to make a flashcard that works on the DSi.

that is exactly what I meant.

as for the current lack of cards that can boot the DSi in DSi mode, well, I would imagine people are working on that right now. but currently the is very little commercial demand for such a device, given what little use it would be.
 

Kamika

Well-Known Member
Member
Joined
Feb 13, 2009
Messages
156
Trophies
0
Age
41
Website
Visit site
XP
166
Country
Netherlands
gameguy95 said:
the dsi can play dsi roms right? then the code to get past the security must be on the dsi somewhere! just find it!
wacko.gif

DSi roms? Don't you mean DS roms since the DSi is just an upgraded DS Lite with bigger screens and all that. It would be unfair to those with a DS Phat/Lite to make new games only work with the DSi.
 
B

ball2012003

Guest
i dont think it will be easy to dump the games
Off topic: when the dsi comes out in the US and Europe someone should just test to see if the working flashcarts for the dsi work
and if they do just dont update your firmware until someone says its okay to do so
 
General chit-chat
Help Users
  • No one is chatting at the moment.
    AncientBoi @ AncientBoi: shhhhh [goes back to sleep]