How To Downgrade From 11.3 (Speculation)

Discussion in '3DS - Flashcards & Custom Firmwares' started by MaxAbou, Feb 8, 2017.

  1. MaxAbou
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    Hi guys I'm Max

    Now im kind of new to this whole 3ds haacking thing so if I say anything inaccurate or just plain stupid, feel free to call me out on it, just dont be too harsh

    also excuse any spelling mistakes as I have a doctors appointemnt in 5 minutes and Im typing on my phone while changing my clothes

    So everyone is saying that you cant downgrade on 11.3 but couldnt someone upload a bunch of 11.2 nands (New 3DS USA, New 3DS EU, etc. etc.) and people would just get decrypt 9 or hourglass 9 and restore that nand, then do the whole cfw process from the restored 11.2 nand?
     
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    So many bricks lol
     
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    Nands are console specific, so this is impossible.
     
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    NAND backups are console specific. Restoring a NAND backup from a 3DS that isn't yours will brick the 3DS.
     
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    oh, maybe a nand from a clean factory reset 3DS? or does every DS have a cerain Nand ID thing.
     
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    Every ds.
     
  7. MaxAbou
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    if only it was that easy ;(
     
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    Max our savior
     
  9. linuxares

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    There is in theory one working hack for all of this, it's called Sighax. Please wait for it.
     
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    Hope that comes soon, because people are going to be asking "How to downgrade from 11.3" soon...
     
  11. linuxares

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    it's already happning...
     
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    *sigh*

    Well, at least installing a9lh has been so streamlined now. No more fussing with emunands and no more pain in the ass installs.
     
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    This thread made me lmao hysterically
     
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    It's already addressed that this would be impossible, but I just want to further point out that if you had access to Decrypt9 then you would have zero need of downgrading in the first place.
     
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    On 11.2, fasthax and safehax are launched so we can use Decrypt9.
     
  16. squall14716

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    NANDs are console specific, period. There is no getting around that.

    Sighax, when implemented and released, would allow hardmod and likely the old DSiWare app+save injection + system transfer method of "downgrading" (in this case, it wouldn't be a downgrade, it's be installing sighax) again. Otherwise, there needs to be another arm11 kernel exploit, as well as another arm9 exploit. Neither of those grow on trees.
     
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    Unfortunately, if it were that easy, we would've gotten that working a long time ago. But we have to back up a little bit. If you have D9/HG9 running, you have arm9 access, and don't *need* to downgrade so that you can get arm9 to preform a ctrnand transfer, etc.

    There are two ways to get access to nand w/o arm9 access, and those are dsiwarehax or a nand mod. For a long time, we could downgrade firmware partially using a known plaintext attack, letting us exploit stuff on older firmwares. The only reason this worked was because of a single version number requirement that wasn't actively updated... and finally updated with 11.3. You can't boot an 11.3 system with an 11.2 firm, but you could boot a 11.2 system with a 10.7 or so firm, letting us use old exploits.

    Honestly, I've been waiting for this. I mean, come on. All it took was for a couple of bytes to be updated, and then firm downgrade wouldn't be applicable anymore. *siiiigh*

    But it's finally happened. Don't update if you want anything homebrew related. Ever. That's probably the first rule of homebrew: don't update your system unless you know it's safe.
     
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    Dude if it was that easy, downgrading would be easy as fuck.
     
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    It'd just be creating bricks to use for Trump's wall.
     
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