Homophobia Is Apparently Associated With Homosexual Arousal

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iluvfupaburgers said:
yeah, i actually do see it as a decision. other animal species dont do this. if it were some sort of dissorder, we would see it in other animals. but the fact is that this has only been seen in 2 species. humans and dolphins. why, because sex means something else than just reproduction, its also pleasure aswell. you took the decision that you like men, not conciously, but you did. and many factors of this decision have been because of your life. maybe because of living in such a close minded environment took you to being gay.
OH really?
Let me make a nice list then of animals that have been found to have homosexuals.
Cats, dogs, rats, horses, lions, ducts, monkeys, elephants, chinchillas, pigs, and whales to name a few.
Now these are just a few off the topic of my head.
Homosexuality is as much a choice as you are being heterosexual.
 

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iluvfupaburgers said:
and im the ignorant for thinking that homosexuality is a sickness?? hmm, yeah, im the ignorant here

If you refer to homosexuality as a sickness, there is something wrong with you. It isn't a disorder, a disease, or even a problem. Although homosexual people do defy the basic ideal of continuing the human race, in an overpopulated world, it is becoming less and less of a problem. Outside of defying that, there is nothing physically or mentally wrong with them. From a medical standpoint, you are also screaming ignorance. I would like you to find one, respectable, medical professional that would refer to homosexuality as a sickness.
 

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I have never understood this choice argument. How it is even relevant? Even if it is a choice, what difference would that make? Are people not allowed to make choices about what they do with their own body?

Though, if it is a choice, we should all choose to be gay and put a stop to overpopulation.
 

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Nathan Drake said:
iluvfupaburgers said:
and im the ignorant for thinking that homosexuality is a sickness?? hmm, yeah, im the ignorant here

If you refer to homosexuality as a sickness, there is something wrong with you. It isn't a disorder, a disease, or even a problem. Although homosexual people do defy the basic ideal of continuing the human race, in an overpopulated world, it is becoming less and less of a problem. Outside of defying that, there is nothing physically or mentally wrong with them. From a medical standpoint, you are also screaming ignorance. I would like you to find one, respectable, medical professional that would refer to homosexuality as a sickness.
i was talking about lilsypha, comparing homosexuality to down syndrome. im not saying homosexuality is a sickness, rather than a choice in life, a lifestyle
 

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iluvfupaburgers said:
Nathan Drake said:
iluvfupaburgers said:
and im the ignorant for thinking that homosexuality is a sickness?? hmm, yeah, im the ignorant here

If you refer to homosexuality as a sickness, there is something wrong with you. It isn't a disorder, a disease, or even a problem. Although homosexual people do defy the basic ideal of continuing the human race, in an overpopulated world, it is becoming less and less of a problem. Outside of defying that, there is nothing physically or mentally wrong with them. From a medical standpoint, you are also screaming ignorance. I would like you to find one, respectable, medical professional that would refer to homosexuality as a sickness.
i was talking about lilsypha, comparing homosexuality to down syndrome. im not saying homosexuality is a sickness, rather than a choice in life, a lifestyle
That still doesn't change your ignorance.
But quick question, you chose to be straight?
 

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iluvfupaburgers said:
yeah, i actually do see it as a decision. other animal species dont do this. if it were some sort of dissorder, we would see it in other animals. but the fact is that this has only been seen in 2 species. humans and dolphins. why, because sex means something else than just reproduction, its also pleasure aswell. you took the decision that you like men, not conciously, but you did. and many factors of this decision have been because of your life. maybe because of living in such a close minded environment took you to being gay.
Yes, gay animals exists.
 

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Ergh. We did research for several papers about whether you're born gay or if it's a choice, and we could never come to ANY kind of agreement - we couldn't even agree to disagree. I like debating, but that one was just....more confusing than anything else.

I have a gay older step sister, and she said it was a choice for her - she made definitive choice...but I also have a gay cousin, and he says he's always been gay...

I always thought it was all based on personal experiences and personal preference, but even those two conflict with each other.

I just don't know. Maybe we're all born gay, and we decide to be straight?
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iluvfupaburgers said:
i was talking about lilsypha, comparing homosexuality to down syndrome. im not saying homosexuality is a sickness, rather than a choice in life, a lifestyle

i am sorry but if u want shit from another guys anus on your dick u r sick. debate is over. close thread
 

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I didn't expect this topic to blow up like it did (been asleep most of the day so missed it). It's good to see that for the most part it was discussed rationally and differing opinions were taken into account respectfully. It shows that as a society we're evolving and casting of previous religious values inherited over generations. There were idiot trolls obviously but any time any discussion is brought up on an internet forum they're bound to appear. It's a shame the discussion can't continue because I believe the best way towards understanding is through research, discussion and debate but I wholeheartedly agree with VA's decision and would have closed the thread myself after reading some of the replies in it.

I'll throw in my tuppence worth though (mod powers rock!). Personally I think homosexuality is genetic, and no - not an illness. It's no less a common genetic trait than heterosexuality. There are people for whom it's a choice, but from my limited experience (as in not having met every single gay person on the planet) for the most part it hasn't been a choice for the people I've met. They're attracted to who they're attracted to because that's who they're attracted to. There's empirical evidence that points towards it being physiological, although there isn't 100% proof obviously.

I don't think all homophobia is caused solely because of closeted homosexuality, I think religious and educational variables can be part of it as well.
 
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