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[Jakob95]

They were given the land...

Come on.

If I stole a car from someone, and gave it to you. Does that mean that you now own the car? No.

You can't give away something that is not yours to give.

I think you mean this. You stole a car back from the thief.

 

[KingdomBlade]

Ok let me give you an example. Would you want to live in a house that has an open door and everyone outside is your enemy that could come in to the house and kill you. Or would you want to live in a house that has a closed door so they can't enter.

Just answer my questions before even starting with houses. Dude people are dying in Gaza from Israeli airstrikes and you're talking about doors? Just refer to my posts and answer them before you make such statements, because they seem pointless.

*Chuckles at guy who doesn't know the meaning of example and how a metaphor works.*

*moves aside* Continue.

 

[insidexdeath]

Ok let me give you an example. Would you want to live in a house that has an open door and everyone outside is your enemy that could come in to the house and kill you. Or would you want to live in a house that has a closed door so they can't enter.

Just answer my questions before even starting with houses. Dude people are dying in Gaza from Israeli airstrikes and you're talking about doors? Just refer to my posts and answer them before you make such statements, because they seem pointless.

THEY are not dying because of random airstrikes. Israel is only trying to defend it self from these terrorists. You know what you know you are wrong yet you still are trying to defend these terrorists because that is what you want, you are striving for that. Just as how the Germans were brainwashed to listen to Hitler.

Are you KIDDING ME? Our temple was were that Mosque stands. The Romans broke our temple and then once the Muslims conquered Jerusalem they built the mosque.

Oh ya defending itself by killing children yes? I never heard that children could be terrorists. The thing is any attack to Israel gets blamed on Gaza (Hamas) and the thing is it's not always them which is being unfair. Your temple "WAS" this past and it's like thousands of years ago which doesn't count as your land STILL. They never conquered Jerusalem they actually freed their land, because if you read history properly, you would know that it was conquered by Israelis and then freed by the Muslims afterwards. You probably read it in Israel as they freed their land.

 

[Valwin]

the land is Israels anyone that think otherwise is not ready history the won the land by the rules of war

 

[Schizoanalysis]

Arguing with a religious zealot is like arguing with a brick wall.


You can live in your land of delusion... but sooner or later it will come crumbling down around you like a house of cards.

 

[Hakoda]

I'll be back to this thread (if it still exists) in a couple hours and debate how Israel is indeed colonizing land that doesn't belong to them. Using the Old Testament as a manifest for conquering the Holy Land does not count as a justified document; you can't quantify its authority in today's world. Stop saying the Arabs aren't willing to compromise, that's fucking bullshit.

 

[The Catboy]

Its not theirs in any way since Israel has won that war, that land belongs to Israel now.

So, if you win a war you can take what you like?

Well, then... all Palestine have to do is start a war with Israel, win it, and then the land is theirs again!

Problem solved.

Israel deserves that land. It was theirs long before Palestine.

Actually not all of it. They had few parts of Palestine and now they're on parts that doesn't belong to them that includes Eastern Jerusalem which has the mosque that belongs to Muslims. If I remember correctly, they never had Golan Heights in Syria either which they're colonizing right now.

That land belonged to Israel as well and was taken from them. Personally I not in favor of helping Palestine.

 

[Valwin]

I'll be back to this thread (if it still exists) in a couple of hours and debate how Israel is indeed colonizing land that doesn't belong to them. Using the Old Testament as a manifest for conquering the Holy Land does not count as a justified document; you can't quantify its authority in today's world. Stop saying the Arabs are not willing to compromise, that's fucking bullshit.

they are not doing such things the land they have they won it fair and square by the rule of war

 

[insidexdeath]

the land is Israels anyone that think otherwise is not ready history the won the land by the rules of war

Ok then by the rules of war, I'm going to attack your house and if I win it's going to be mine.

 

[Jakob95]

Ok let me give you an example. Would you want to live in a house that has an open door and everyone outside is your enemy that could come in to the house and kill you. Or would you want to live in a house that has a closed door so they can't enter.

Just answer my questions before even starting with houses. Dude people are dying in Gaza from Israeli airstrikes and you're talking about doors? Just refer to my posts and answer them before you make such statements, because they seem pointless.

THEY are not dying because of random airstrikes. Israel is only trying to defend it self from these terrorists. You know what you know you are wrong yet you still are trying to defend these terrorists because that is what you want, you are striving for that. Just as how the Germans were brainwashed to listen to Hitler.

Are you KIDDING ME? Our temple was were that Mosque stands. The Romans broke our temple and then once the Muslims conquered Jerusalem they built the mosque.

Oh ya defending itself by killing children yes? I never heard that children could be terrorists. The thing is any attack to Israel gets blamed on Gaza (Hamas) and the thing is it's not always them which is being unfair. Your temple "WAS" this past and it's like thousands of years ago which doesn't count as your land STILL. They never conquered Jerusalem they actually freed their land, because if you read history properly, you would know that it was conquered by Israelis and then freed by the Muslims afterwards. You probably read it in Israel as they freed their land.

Give a gun to your child and tell him to go shoot at a Israeli civilian. This happens all the time in Israel. I count these people as animals.

 

[Schizoanalysis]

they won it fair and square by the rule of war

Whose rules of war?

You are clinging to straws.

You may as well say that they won it far and square by the rules of Monopoly. That is just as justifiable as your argument.

 

[Jakob95]

I'll be back to this thread (if it still exists) in a couple hours and debate how Israel is indeed colonizing land that doesn't belong to them. Using the Old Testament as a manifest for conquering the Holy Land does not count as a justified document; you can't quantify its authority in today's world. Stop saying the Arabs aren't willing to compromise, that's fucking bullshit.
You are kidding me right? So you are saying that the Old Testament is fake and there was never an Israel that belonged to the Jews? Then how do you explain a person like me. My ancestors were from Israel and got kicked out of the land and we had to move to Uzbekistan after, without any torah or anything. Yet we still knew words from hebrew and mixed it with the farsi language and made our own kind of dialect. It was only lately in the 1800s when my race got the Torah when a rabbi from Ukraine I think came and gave the Jews the torah. We knew we were Jewish yet we didn't know anything about the religion since it got lost..

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QUOTE(Valwin @ Sep 24 2011, 11:25 AM) they won it fair and square by the rule of war

Whose rules of war?

You are clinging to straws.

You may as well say that they won it far and square by the rules of Monopoly. That is just as justifiable as your argument.

Learn how the world and goverment works my friend. They attacked first how many times do I have to say this. If they never attacked I bet they would still have the land that doesn't belong to them.

 

[Thanatos Telos]

NO i wont help Israel all they do isshooting rockets at Palestine anyone here that is againt terrorims shuld not help them

Fixed it.

 

[mthrnite]

I count these people as animals.

Careful there. Keep it civil or thread closed. Got it?
Argue politics as much as you want, that's fine.. start calling people animals and you're crossing the line.

As long as you're civil to each other, no probs.

 

[Valwin]

the land is Israels anyone that think otherwise is not ready history the won the land by the rules of war

Ok then by the rules of war, I'm going to attack your house and if I win it's going to be mine.

pretty much in that time t was like that but with nations they were able hold those lands at the time the borders froze so blame the dumb arabs that started the war in which Israel kick so much ass also why don't you talk about how the left over land was also taken by Jordan and egypt Jordan annexe the west bank and egypt annexe the Gaza district and neither arabs states let the Palestinians have their independence

 

[Jakob95]

Its just so annoying how all they want is to hurt the Jewish people. Why can't we Jews have our own land. These Palestinians could go into ANY muslim land they want and live there. We Jews can not do that as we have always been killed, insulted, and were outcasts. We always had to live in ghettos. Look how well we developed Israel into this beautiful rich country without any corruption to the people(or as much as any Muslim country has). We know how to rule these lands with democracy.

EDIT: I wouldn't even count America to be a safe place for us Jews to live in.

 

[luckwii]

I'll be back to this thread (if it still exists) in a couple hours and debate how Israel is indeed colonizing land that doesn't belong to them. Using the Old Testament as a manifest for conquering the Holy Land does not count as a justified document; you can't quantify its authority in today's world. Stop saying the Arabs aren't willing to compromise, that's fucking bullshit.

That is the biggest line of

The Arabs are not anywhere near ready to compromise. They are even at war with each other over different extreme views of Islam. They have never given an inch unless to get people like you to think they are compromising. And yet the compromise was only to position for more attack.

Don't get me wrong, I am not anti Arab or Muslim. But I do see things as they are without the smokescreen. And I do see the rise of antisemitism. I can't believe the rest of you don't. Shameful, absolutely shameful.

I am done here. I am getting too pissed off. We are talking about the right for a race of people to survive here. And a con to end it.

 

[Schizoanalysis]

Learn how the world and goverment works my friend. T

So now you are trying to tell me that I have no grip on reality?

Step out of your fantasy world, and you may have more credibility as you say that.

 

[insidexdeath]

Ok let me give you an example. Would you want to live in a house that has an open door and everyone outside is your enemy that could come in to the house and kill you. Or would you want to live in a house that has a closed door so they can't enter.

Just answer my questions before even starting with houses. Dude people are dying in Gaza from Israeli airstrikes and you're talking about doors? Just refer to my posts and answer them before you make such statements, because they seem pointless.

THEY are not dying because of random airstrikes. Israel is only trying to defend it self from these terrorists. You know what you know you are wrong yet you still are trying to defend these terrorists because that is what you want, you are striving for that. Just as how the Germans were brainwashed to listen to Hitler.

Are you KIDDING ME? Our temple was were that Mosque stands. The Romans broke our temple and then once the Muslims conquered Jerusalem they built the mosque.

Oh ya defending itself by killing children yes? I never heard that children could be terrorists. The thing is any attack to Israel gets blamed on Gaza (Hamas) and the thing is it's not always them which is being unfair. Your temple "WAS" this past and it's like thousands of years ago which doesn't count as your land STILL. They never conquered Jerusalem they actually freed their land, because if you read history properly, you would know that it was conquered by Israelis and then freed by the Muslims afterwards. You probably read it in Israel as they freed their land.

Give a gun to your child and tell him to go shoot at a Israeli civilian. This happens all the time in Israel. I count these people as animals.

Wow now you're calling the poor innocent children animals? If you think that gives the right to Israel to airstrike children then you must be insane.

 

[Jakob95]

Ok let me give you an example. Would you want to live in a house that has an open door and everyone outside is your enemy that could come in to the house and kill you. Or would you want to live in a house that has a closed door so they can't enter.

Just answer my questions before even starting with houses. Dude people are dying in Gaza from Israeli airstrikes and you're talking about doors? Just refer to my posts and answer them before you make such statements, because they seem pointless.

THEY are not dying because of random airstrikes. Israel is only trying to defend it self from these terrorists. You know what you know you are wrong yet you still are trying to defend these terrorists because that is what you want, you are striving for that. Just as how the Germans were brainwashed to listen to Hitler.

Are you KIDDING ME? Our temple was were that Mosque stands. The Romans broke our temple and then once the Muslims conquered Jerusalem they built the mosque.

Oh ya defending itself by killing children yes? I never heard that children could be terrorists. The thing is any attack to Israel gets blamed on Gaza (Hamas) and the thing is it's not always them which is being unfair. Your temple "WAS" this past and it's like thousands of years ago which doesn't count as your land STILL. They never conquered Jerusalem they actually freed their land, because if you read history properly, you would know that it was conquered by Israelis and then freed by the Muslims afterwards. You probably read it in Israel as they freed their land.

Give a gun to your child and tell him to go shoot at a Israeli civilian. This happens all the time in Israel. I count these people as animals.

Wow now you're calling the poor innocent children animals? If you think that gives the right to Israel to airstrike children then you must be insane.

I do find people that give there children weapons to kill innocent people as animals. And yet again Israel didn't airstrike children.