Okay, I admit I probably haven't looked at this stuff in a long time. I know that the E3 flasher is the most famous, and it looked attractive for having a no-solder solution available back then. However, said solution was only valid on a slim... and didn't really find anything that seemed to have the same level of functionality on both a NOR-based PS3 as it would for any of the NAND-based PS3's (i.e. the models that still had some level of native PS2 BC). So, have any of them improved enough to be no-solder on the NAND systems as well? For me, that would be the ideal, but I'd also just like to know if any of them have the same level of functionality with a NAND-based system as they would with a NOR-based system.