GBAtemp ponders E3 2013 -- Microsoft

[Mantis41]

At the current rate $499 = £320(ish), a far more realistic price, ridiculous that it gets pushed up so far.

Same with the Euro as well, it seems the US gets the better price by far.

Confused me as well until I had it explained to me.

convert US$499 to GBP = £320.
Then you have 20% UK sales tax added to all items pre-sale which is 320 + 64 = £384.
So it should be priced around £385 in the UK. So it is being pushed up by about £50 in the UK.

Edit: correct me if I am wrong but there will be about an additional $30 of tax on the US item at the register. So the US buy price is around £340. So they have pushed up the UK price effectively about £20 to £25 pounds comparatively speaking.

 

[grossaffe]

Edit: correct me if I am wrong but there will be about an additional $30 of tax on the US item at the register. So the US buy price is around £340. So they have pushed up the UK price effectively about £20 to £25 pounds comparatively speaking.

If you live in a state that Amazon doesn't have a presence in, you can avoid the tax issue in the US (loophole dealing with interstate commerce)

 

[Mantis41]

If you live in a state that Amazon doesn't have a presence in, you can avoid the tax issue in the US (loophole dealing with interstate commerce)

I guess the US actually receive corporate tax unlike the UK who rely on revenue from it's citizens.

edit: sorry if that was off topic.

 

[Eerpow]

Really great game showings honestly, Spark looked really good (probably my personal favorite of the show). Nothing that that looked REALLY bad though, maybe Forza but that's not bad, just not my cup of tea. But I'd be willing to play every game showed.

Price was still shit though, $500 is blehhhhh. I was guessing they might do a damn cheap price but require Xbox Live subscription. Like they did that with the current Xbox 360's in a weird bundle type thing.

So yeah I enjoyed the conference.

However total cockblock, everyone I was chatting with thought the Halo trailer was Destiny.

Spark is coming to PC too.

So was the new Max game exclusive? That had me interested apart from Killer Instinct. Sunset Overdrive and Quantum Break could be good games, but I haven't really seen enough from those to really form an opinion.

But yeah everyone is flipping over the admittedly ridiculous EU price £430 ($667)! Plus subscription fee? ouch! Not to mention how many of these games are dependent on cloud calculations to look good, a feature that most likely need a good stable internet connection to function. The software lineup looks promising but the system and MS business decisions behind it are just awful so far.

 

[grossaffe]

I guess the US actually receive corporate tax unlike the UK who rely on revenue from it's citizens.

edit: sorry if that was off topic.

We have a federal income tax on citizens, and then the states and local governments implement other taxes as the see fit such as sales taxes. Some states like Delaware do not have a sales tax. Of course there are other taxes as well, but those are the ones that a citizen is most aware of.

Our tax code is pretty complicated with tax deductions, direct taxes, loopholes here and there... but that's another discussion for another time and another place.

 

[Mantis41]

We have a federal income tax on citizens, and then the states and local governments implement other taxes as the see fit such as sales taxes. Some states like Delaware do not have a sales tax. Of course there are other taxes as well, but those are the ones that a citizen is most aware of.

Our tax code is pretty complicated with tax deductions, direct taxes, loopholes here and there... but that's another discussion for another time and another place.

I was just pondering how the US survives with relatively low tax rates. You then hear multiple news stories about large corporations not paying a cent of UK corporation tax. It seems the UK are happy to milk the majority of the revenue from it's citizens while they are watching the majority of revenue from corporate profits go offshore.

 

[grossaffe]

I was just pondering how the US survives with relatively low tax rates. You then hear multiple news stories about large corporations not paying a cent of UK corporation tax. It seems the UK are happy to milk the majority of the revenue from it's citizens.

We also have a smaller government than the UK. Our politicians are trying to change that, but personally I'd like to shrink it even more.

 

[Eerpow]

MS current strategy is most likely the following, roughly put "paying a bunch of devs to do exclusives for them, exclusive games resulting in good enough sales to make that money back with the high pricepoint of the system". I can see it work to some degree, but sure, it's a risk. It's better than Nintendo's strategy of rushing the system before Christmas not fully investing in 3rd party relationship costs until who knows when.
Will be interesting to see what Sony's planned strategies are this morning.

 

[Gahars]

So they're proving their commitment to indie devs by... removing self-publishing and putting out another version of Minecraft?

YeahOKSureJenniferLawrence.gif

 

[Devin]

Ryse here I come!

I'm actually interested in most of the games they showed. Minus Forza 5, and Spark. Thought it was a great conference, and I'm looking forward to seeing what Sony brings to the table.

 

[DinohScene]

I'm actually interested in most of the games they showed. Minus Forza 5, and Spark. Thought it was a great conference, and I'm looking forward to seeing what Sony brings to the table.

Most of them are games that are being squeezed to get the last bit of profit out of them.
Shame tho.

 

[Ethevion]

Forza, Metal Gear, KI, Halo, and Spark. Wow, I want those so bad.

 

[RedCoreZero]

Confirmed, it's going to be worse than the Vitanic.

 

[KingVamp]

Close up.