Now doesn't that make you feel better? The tumblrinas won tonight, now they can play their meme game soundly, and everything is all right.
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Aight, real talk. There is definitely some salt going on from both sides. What I am seeing is of course disagreeing with the decision because, well, the game is popular, and I understand, however maybe that isn't the best reason to disagree or not like something since it is popular to not like something because it is popular. Personally, I disagree with this for a different reason.
While I do think Undertale is a good game, GOTY it is not. Now, this may be too much to swallow for Undertale fans, but what we have is the indie game of the month, that relies to heavily on the atmosphere and tone of Earthbound\MOTHER, "retro graphics," use of lame anime and spaghetti jokes when there aren't actual amusing things going on, and the "MUH MONSTERS ARE PEOPLE TOO!" shtick. Also, doing a pacifist run in a game is not new. You can do that in many games like Deus Ex (although you have to kill certain characters in the game, however you can do so indirectly through certain dialogue options) and Thief 2, and even some traditional RPGs as well, most of them being of the Western and Computer variety. If you think about it, for all of those reasons it just is not enough to be one of the best games of all time or even just GOTY.
But I can say this, maybe more people should give the game a try, Toby Fox and his team should work on a game that totally shatters Undertale, especially in its graphics, atmosphere and mood (make it original rather than relying on something many other indie devs are going to use as the standard!) and its portrayal of morality, and more salt must flow.
Personally, as of right now, I am feeling The Witcher 3 is my GOTY, and Undertale gets a strong 6 to middling 7 out of 10.
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Aight, real talk. There is definitely some salt going on from both sides. What I am seeing is of course disagreeing with the decision because, well, the game is popular, and I understand, however maybe that isn't the best reason to disagree or not like something since it is popular to not like something because it is popular. Personally, I disagree with this for a different reason.
While I do think Undertale is a good game, GOTY it is not. Now, this may be too much to swallow for Undertale fans, but what we have is the indie game of the month, that relies to heavily on the atmosphere and tone of Earthbound\MOTHER, "retro graphics," use of lame anime and spaghetti jokes when there aren't actual amusing things going on, and the "MUH MONSTERS ARE PEOPLE TOO!" shtick. Also, doing a pacifist run in a game is not new. You can do that in many games like Deus Ex (although you have to kill certain characters in the game, however you can do so indirectly through certain dialogue options) and Thief 2, and even some traditional RPGs as well, most of them being of the Western and Computer variety. If you think about it, for all of those reasons it just is not enough to be one of the best games of all time or even just GOTY.
But I can say this, maybe more people should give the game a try, Toby Fox and his team should work on a game that totally shatters Undertale, especially in its graphics, atmosphere and mood (make it original rather than relying on something many other indie devs are going to use as the standard!) and its portrayal of morality, and more salt must flow.
Personally, as of right now, I am feeling The Witcher 3 is my GOTY, and Undertale gets a strong 6 to middling 7 out of 10.
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@TheCrimsonIdol While I agree mostly with your statement it needs to be paragraphed properly. Otherwise it becomes a wall of text which is tl;dr.
Pretty much everybody who has stated they don't think it was a good choice seems to have played the game to some extent. Hell, alot of them aren't even saying the game is bad, just that it doesn't meet the qualifications for game of the year. I personally don't like the game much, and think it has some obnoxious issues, but I'll give it some credit and say that it did some things good. It just doesn't do enough to represent an entire year of games, especially one that had so many great titles come out.
After playing this game for some time, since before playing it i was like "Fuck, this game won't leave me alone, I want to simply finish my business here", Well, the game is fun, that much is true for me, the battle moments sometimes felt repetitive but eh, there were some cases where it was actually kinda creative, so i'll give it extra points for that.
This short, corny and cheesy RPG didn't really impressed me, like, yeah, the dialogue was good, but the humor sometimes felt forced, the puzzles were the most forgettable part of the game, for me at least, and the motivations of some characters were truly simple yet questionable for a background standpoint of the matter.
This short game isn't probably living on the top anything i'll have for games during the rest of my life, nor it was that interesting for me, this game truly means what it is "Earthbound + Internet" in the best and most successful example you can give in a videogame format, so that's what i think about this game for that matter, in a nutshell: Corny Dialogue, Cheesy Story with some laugh or meh in there, and an excellent outstanding soundtrack.
Regarding GOTY, Idk tbh, I didn't played Metal Gear Solid V neither Bloodborne or the Witcher 3, so i don't have a opinion for those in the GOTY section, just for the production value and the effort put into those games they should be above this game naturally, but we are in the era where most people are getting tired of AAA games and they want more indie games with dat art pixel graphics.
The past generation of gaming (specifically, the 7th generation) was overflooded with FPS games, and if that wasn't bad enough, the 8th generation followed it with more DLC cost prices, even more shooters, and more short games that make a quick and fast cash money, the most famous example would be Star Wars Battlefront (2015) which did awful for, almost everything but graphics, or the Order 1886 which was basically untapped potential for a short game again.
I can understand why so many people would get tired of the politics regarding triple A games, and as such, they go for games like Undertale, who aims to the same audience but with actual finished content, like Shovel Knight, and so they thrive and find for whatever indie game is getting out during this year and all that will follow up.
That doesn't mean games like Witcher 3 or Fallout 4 are bad, no, the total contrary, is just that the majority of people would think of those games as "The AAA games that must be a cash off in DLC with short content and almost non existent replayability", naturally, this is not true, but this is what represents the perception of most people in the videogame market.
For now, all i can say is that both the standards for the people working on the triple AAA should rise up in quality as well the Indie games one, I know those industries can do some amazing shit if they wanted, but who have the last words in the end is the money and the gamers voice, and i can say without any bit of doubt that pleasing today gamers is a hard thing.
This short, corny and cheesy RPG didn't really impressed me, like, yeah, the dialogue was good, but the humor sometimes felt forced, the puzzles were the most forgettable part of the game, for me at least, and the motivations of some characters were truly simple yet questionable for a background standpoint of the matter.
This short game isn't probably living on the top anything i'll have for games during the rest of my life, nor it was that interesting for me, this game truly means what it is "Earthbound + Internet" in the best and most successful example you can give in a videogame format, so that's what i think about this game for that matter, in a nutshell: Corny Dialogue, Cheesy Story with some laugh or meh in there, and an excellent outstanding soundtrack.
Regarding GOTY, Idk tbh, I didn't played Metal Gear Solid V neither Bloodborne or the Witcher 3, so i don't have a opinion for those in the GOTY section, just for the production value and the effort put into those games they should be above this game naturally, but we are in the era where most people are getting tired of AAA games and they want more indie games with dat art pixel graphics.
The past generation of gaming (specifically, the 7th generation) was overflooded with FPS games, and if that wasn't bad enough, the 8th generation followed it with more DLC cost prices, even more shooters, and more short games that make a quick and fast cash money, the most famous example would be Star Wars Battlefront (2015) which did awful for, almost everything but graphics, or the Order 1886 which was basically untapped potential for a short game again.
I can understand why so many people would get tired of the politics regarding triple A games, and as such, they go for games like Undertale, who aims to the same audience but with actual finished content, like Shovel Knight, and so they thrive and find for whatever indie game is getting out during this year and all that will follow up.
That doesn't mean games like Witcher 3 or Fallout 4 are bad, no, the total contrary, is just that the majority of people would think of those games as "The AAA games that must be a cash off in DLC with short content and almost non existent replayability", naturally, this is not true, but this is what represents the perception of most people in the videogame market.
For now, all i can say is that both the standards for the people working on the triple AAA should rise up in quality as well the Indie games one, I know those industries can do some amazing shit if they wanted, but who have the last words in the end is the money and the gamers voice, and i can say without any bit of doubt that pleasing today gamers is a hard thing.
Umm.... Did you get the True (Pacifist) Ending? The first (neutral) run feels "empty" especially if you killed monsters.
Nope, but I saw all the playtroughs on youtube. And from what I've seen and played, I really like the game. I just didn't feel like playing trough all of it again.
If you never killed anyone in your first playthrough you can achieve True Pacifist simply by loading your last save and then meeting the requirements. No need to reset and playthrough.
I know. In fact I did the date with Alphys and got to the True Lab. It got really boring for me. Maybe another time.
Oh OK. That kinda means the gameplay might not be for you. Oh well. It happens. =/
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