Hacking Gateway Files succesfully Decrypted

[yifan_lu]

Although you can't make a homebrew loader with just ROP, if GW indeed has a kernel exploit, it's a matter of finding out how signature checks are made, using ROP to patch it, and allow you to install homebrew. A homebrew loader is absolutely possible if they have kernel access.

 

[ichichfly]

Of course the initial thing has to be small as it has to fit within the DS settings, but I thought Launcher.dat can be any size and it will execute it? Besides, to someone who knows what he is doing, 1MB of ROP calls can probably accomplish a whole lot (at least, I thought launcher.dat was 1MB?)

I only found about 1424 Byte ROP in the decrypted launcher.dat the rest is most likely not ROP or encrypted.

 

[Boy12]

Although you can't make a homebrew loader with just ROP, if GW indeed has a kernel exploit, it's a matter of finding out how signature checks are made, using ROP to patch it, and allow you to install homebrew. A homebrew loader is absolutely possible if they have kernel access.

Do you think this also will require a flash card?
I personally do think so.

 

[Enchilada]

Not sure if this is good news or bad news.

 

[how_do_i_do_that]

Not sure if this is good news or bad news.

If you found 80 bucks for the gateway too much, you will likely find getting a gateway clone from the R4 clone makers for way less than 80 more affordable.

What will likely bite every gateway clone buyer in the ass is that a new 3DS firmware will likely mean buying another gateway clone to replace the non-upgradable clone they just bought.

 

[Relf]

Do you think this also will require a flash card?
I personally do think so.

It might possibly only require a flash card to install which I suppose would be good enough.

 

[the_randomizer]

Not sure if this is good news or bad news.

It can be good because more people have access to the information, furthering the progress of hacking.

 

[Thorhian]

It can be good because more people have access to the information, furthering the progress of hacking.

It also means hold on to your firmware, boys and girls, this maybe patched VERY soon. You know, can anyone tell me how "easy" this is to patch via a firmware update? Also, I have always kinda thought about this route as a way to exploit the system, I guess I predicted correctly.

 

[rsdroopy]

If GW is indeed a kernel exploit, then the hardware is not needed at all. A Rom loader on the SD card is all you need. GW team put it on the hardware because it is the only way they can make some money. I bet the exploit will be found out very soon and homebrew and ROM loader will follow. No one will buy the GW card anymore.

 

[Arras]

If you found 80 bucks for the gateway too much, you will likely find getting a gateway clone from the R4 clone makers for way less than 80 more affordable.

What will likely bite every gateway clone buyer in the ass is that a new 3DS firmware will likely mean buying another gateway clone to replace the non-upgradable clone they just bought.

The thing is that a 3DS firmware update is extremely likely to permanently block the GW as well, they even said this themselves.

 

[VLinh]

Plus you got to factor in the part of games potentially using NAND dumps now like with Animal Crossing, so this could hinder some roms for quite some time until its exploited.

But to be honest, you gotta give it up to the GW3DS team for actually making it possible to play 3DS roms since alot of people were waiting for this.

 

[yifan_lu]

Do you think this also will require a flash card?
I personally do think so.

Well, technically you don't, but I'm betting GW will make it so it is required anyways.

 

[Lestworth]

I think its kinda funny with the negative attitude towards the GW. Typically clone carts get 0 updates after its release, and people are already looking to buy clones so early in the hack scene for the 3ds? Smart?

It really depends on the people who make the clone, and are willing to update it. Take the risk, buy a clone, and never play a new game on the 3ds until you update to a more recent clone cart, or get a 1st party cart, with updates that can potentially reach to the end of the 3ds.

For me i like long term answers rather then short term, gimme gimme gimme gimme.

 

[The Real Jdbye]

its using teh "mset hack" on teh 3DS which is documented on 3DS Brew

maybe you should check there site as its on there front page about the homebrew loader



just dont update any more ;D
id stay on 6.2.0 at least as nintendo will now most likely remove the "mset hack" with the next update

The only thing on their site that mentions homebrew is this:

- Can it play Homebrew?
No.

And I do not think they would spend that much effort on something that isn't a big benefit in the end.
They would have to code an entire SDK for homebrew, which would mean they would have to find out how every little part of the 3DS works so they can write libraries to interface with software and hardware.
Also they would have to code their own sandbox so people couldn't make homebrew with full kernel access and potentially find out enough to create a proper CFW.

 

[the_randomizer]

The only thing on their site that mentions homebrew is this:

And I do not think they would spend that much effort on something that isn't a big benefit in the end.
They would have to code an entire SDK for homebrew, which would mean they would have to find out how every little part of the 3DS works so they can write libraries to interface with software and hardware.
Also they would have to code their own sandbox so people couldn't make homebrew with full kernel access and potentially find out enough to create a proper CFW.

Refuted. Look closer next time. Clearly says they're working on homebrew as we speak, the FAQ only implies it can't be done for the time being. Obviously an SDK needs to be coded for programs to be made, but that doesn't mean it can't be done. So yeah, don't discount the possibly only because you read that part of the FAQ, because it clearly says on the main page that it's being worked on as well.

Spoiler

The thing is that a 3DS firmware update is extremely likely to permanently block the GW as well, they even said this themselves.

Simple. Don't update the firmware and disable WiFi.

 

[Guimac09]

Still waiting for the 5.1 compatibility update ;_;

 

[the_randomizer]

Still waiting for the 5.1 compatibility update ;_;

It's been confirmed that they're working on it, will take a while I'm sure

 

[Guimac09]

It's been confirmed that they're working on it, will take a while I'm sure

Do hope they can get some progress on it quickly, they already managed region unlocking which I thought wouldn't happen for a good time. Gotta play that senran kagura man hehe

 

[Arizato]

Do hope they can get some progress on it quickly, they already managed region unlocking which I thought wouldn't happen for a good time. Gotta play that senran kagura man hehe

Senran Kagura was confirmed for the west a few days ago.

 

[The Real Jdbye]

Refuted. Look closer next time. Clearly says they're working on homebrew as we speak, the FAQ only implies it can't be done for the time being. Obviously an SDK needs to be coded for programs to be made, but that doesn't mean it can't be done. So yeah, don't discount the possibly only because you read that part of the FAQ, because it clearly says on the main page that it's being worked on as well.

Spoiler

Simple. Don't update the firmware and disable WiFi.

Ah they spelled it with a dash so ctrl+f didn't work. Well that's great news, didn't expect that. As said though they will have to code a sandbox, but for everyone else's sake let's hope they don't so we can blow this thing wide open