Hacking Gateway Files succesfully Decrypted

[2ndApex]

My fear with clones isn't about stealing or pirating from pirates. It's the fact that the Gateway team is the only one who's done anything so far, they're still doing stuff right now (region lock and firmware spoofing), and if they leave or get driven out by cheap copy carts we'll be right back where we started before them.

 

[Wombo Combo]

Just hope it leads to new exploits . But its good to have choices on which are you can buy other than just one card which they can price at what ever they want.

 

[the_randomizer]

what was random was how he just "popped" into #3dsdev, dropped the file and then left, said he would be back with key later He had a ram dump .... Also pretty lame to start a thread saying its been done, but dont back it u with proof, you think 1 thread not having the anonfiles link posted is gonna do anything. Who cares what the OP posted, thats his view, not the view of the board.. It spread from irc within minutes, so good luck with "keeping it under wraps"

Like I said, I'm staying for the ride. It's about time we get 3DS hacking related news.

 

[LurkerA]

It's getting more interesting now....The show time is coming, let's sit down and relax!

 

[TheZander]

Keep your eyes open for the "The Zander Cart"

 

[the_randomizer]

It's getting more interesting now....The show time is coming, let's sit down and relax!

After some thought, this is actually a good thing, as more people will be working on it and eventually, homebrew will be more feasible IMHO


But it will still take quite a while

 

[yifan_lu]

wait,do you mean that this decrypted launcher.dat is not very useful,at least for those who don't have ram dump?why?and is it useful to the clone factory to clone Gateway red card?

It's not useful because it is impossible to use without a RAM dump. All this is is a list of pointers to code inside the RAM and not code that actually runs on the 3DS. It's like having a book coded in numbers and if you don't know what word corresponds to what number, you can't read it. It is not useful for cloning either unless they have a RAM dump.

 

[umdking]

It's not useful because it is impossible to use without a RAM dump. All this is is a list of pointers to code inside the RAM and not code that actually runs on the 3DS. It's like having a book coded in numbers and if you don't know what word corresponds to what number, you can't read it. It is not useful for cloning either unless they have a RAM dump.

Ah,so that's how it is! thanks for answering.

 

[The Real Jdbye]

Not to burst anyone's bubble about the 3DS scene, but the people who would actually be doing the hacking already have the files. This is the Skiddie scene, not the hacking scene. It's likely a part of the Gateway 3DS exploit checks for their card to be able to run (gotta sell the $80 card) which is why retail games won't work when gateway mode is enabled. Someone with a little bit of know how might be able to work it so it reads from the SD card instead of the cartridge port or even release a region free version of the hack so that it just ignores the region of real cartridges.

It can't simply ignore the region, it has to spoof it somehow.
I think this could be useful. It enables more people to have a look at the code, people who might not be good at encryption but could still figure out how the code works.

I really hope so, if a CFW comes from this, as far as I see it, that will be the best possible outcome, it would simply be amazing.

Does any one know if this is the same exploit neo+yellow were using or is this something new?

It's probably the same one since both were patched at the same time. But no one knows for sure except yellows8 and maybe some others.

Yeah piracy really killed the DS. RIP little buddy, ya sold way too little, way too soon ...

Wait what?

This. I can't understand why people make that argument. The DS is the best selling system of all time right below the PS2 and almost beating it.

They read his reasoning, and thought it was ridiculous. What good do you think not posting it did? It's not like it was ever secret. Here, i'll teach you how to find it yourself: http://bit.ly/15wiQxD

This topic is the first result

 

[anhminh]

They say this is the world dog eat dog.
So don't be too naive to think pirates can't pirate the pirate.
And GW will still release they update because that is the only thing guarantee people will keep pay money for them, not other cheaper clone. And if they can't provide any new update, they ship soon will be sink.
Even if they are the first one to go doesn't mean they are the last one can stand.

 

[Foxi4]

People treat Nintendo as if they were some technologically-illiterate fools. They designed their system and they're not 5 - they could've decrypted the files themselves and they were clealy well-aware of the used exploit as it's been patched before the Gateway even hit online stores, I don't see a reason to be upset about this release. The only thing it can lead to is clones and that's not necessarily a bad thing - if customers want to risk lack of support, they can go for the clones. In the meantime, the Gateway crew should continue to improve upon their product to remain competitive. Since when is monopoly a good thing? The more carts the better is what I say.

 

[TemplarGR]

indeed, could kill off the Gateway, and shut down the 3DS scene
great news
considering they havnt released the Region Free or Firmware Spoofing code

What a weak argument...

So the piracy won't kill the 3DS, but somehow we are supposed to care if other solutions make the Gateway obsolete?

Or maybe we shouldn't care that game developers don't get paid, but we care about Gateway making a profit? Please...

Also, we need to reverse engineer the Gateway in order to make a softmod, not clone flashcarts. Who cares about them? No need to pay money to chinese sweat shops anymore...

Gateway aren't the only ones who can code, and obviously firmware spoofing is not that difficult if you have kernel access. It seems most people with no developer experience think that Gateway are something like Gods. Nothing could be further from the truth. Hobbists with the exploits can create wonders, like in the PSP scene...

It is obvious some people don't want a softmod, because they make money from flashcarts. Well folks, it is a matter of time till a 3DS softmod and then you will be history, deal with it.

 

[Boy12]

Keep your eyes open for the "The Zander Cart"

Oh and don't forget the "R4i Ultra 3DS Processor III"card, you will be seeing Gateway knockoffs with a "improved" processor.

 

[Pong20302000]

What a weak argument...

So the piracy won't kill the 3DS, but somehow we are supposed to care if other solutions make the Gateway obsolete?

Also, we need to reverse engineer the Gateway in order to make a softmod, not clone flashcarts. Who cares about them? No need to buy money to chinese sweat shops anymore...

It is obvious some people don't want a softmod, because they make money from flashcarts. Well folks, it is a matter of time till a 3DS softmod and then you will be history, deal with it.

it has nothing to do with me

im on about progress
how many people do you know that are active on the 3DS scene?
Neimod and Yellows8 arnt sharing what they have done

Crown failed

Gateway are the only ones who made a flashcard and are actively supporting it with new features

we don't need to reverse engineer the gateway to make a softmod
the Gateway files only apply to flashcards, so its purely for others to try and cash in with a fake product that will be unsupported
and the gateway team could just drop there progress and thats it, no more progress

 

[TemplarGR]

it has nothing to do with me
Gateway are the only ones who made a flashcard and are actively supporting it with new features

we don't need to reverse engineer the gateway to make a softmod
the Gateway files only apply to flashcards, so its purely for others to try and cash in with a fake product that will be unsupported
and the gateway team could just drop there progress and thats it, no more progress

We need to reverse engineer the gateway in order to find the exploits, since Neimod and Yellows8 don't share. You said it yourself...

With the exploits on our hands, we can get to the firmware and disable its security features. And create a rom loader from the SD card.

Then there is no need to worry about future updates. If and when firmware spoofing ceases to work, we can crack a newer version and update to it...

Like the PS3, 4.1-4.5 are our entry point.

 

[Foxi4]

Neimod and Yellows8 arnt sharing what they have done

Sure, it's not like neimod's tools are publicly available (including the PCB schematics) nor are they both consistently posting updates about the I/O, syscalls, hardware etc. on 3DBrew.

https://github.com/neimod/ctr
http://www.flickr.com/photos/neimod/
http://www.3dbrew.org/wiki/Main_Page

Just because they're not posting "here's an exploit, use it like this dear n00blets" guides doesn't mean that they're not sharing invaluable information.

It's entirely possible that the Gateway wouldn't even exist if not for all the information found on 3DBrew, so don't give us the "they don't share" crap - they just don't want everybody and their dog to pirate and they trust that by showing only the information relevant to hackers or future coders they can at least delay rampant piracy.

 

[Pong20302000]

We need to reverse engineer the gateway in order to find the exploits, since Neimod and Yellows8 don't share. You said it yourself...

With the exploits on our hands, we can get to the firmware and disable its security features. And create a rom loader from the SD card.

Then there is no need to worry about future updates. If and when firmware spoofing ceases to work, we can crack a newer version and update to it...

Like the PS3, 4.1-4.5 are our entry point.

lol exploits haha
there already known, there is nothing else to learn from the gateway

haha your funny, you believe its that simple do you and will all fit into place

you cant just crack it without the key, which people cannot get

PS3 the keys where known due to a sony major mistake using a "Always 4" code, thats they only reason for what happened to the ps3, if it wasnt for that the PS3 scene wouldnt be where it was

and you do realize the gateway team are making a Homebrew loader?

As a development team we are especially excited to announce the start of our long term dream to enable 3DS home-brew. We have long awaited the time to be able to start working on opening up your 3DS to the amazing home-brew talent. This is not a trivial feat to accomplish and it will take time ! In the meanwhile we will of course continue to enhance the GW3DS with rich features.

 

[The Real Jdbye]

lol exploits haha
there already known, there is nothing else to learn from the gateway

haha your funny, you believe its that simple do you and will all fit into place

you cant just crack it without the key, which people cannot get

PS3 the keys where known due to a sony major mistake using a "Always 4" code, thats they only reason for what happened to the ps3, if it wasnt for that the PS3 scene wouldnt be where it was

and you do realize the gateway team are making a Homebrew loader?

Bullshit. No one else knows anything about the exploit apart from some vague hints.

I've heard nothing about a homebrew loader for the Gateway. Source?
All they said was that a GUI was coming. They said nothing about homebrew.

 

[DSoryu]

lol exploits haha
there already known, there is nothing else to learn from the gateway

haha your funny, you believe its that simple do you and will all fit into place

you cant just crack it without the key, which people cannot get

PS3 the keys where known due to a sony major mistake using a "Always 4" code, thats they only reason for what happened to the ps3, if it wasnt for that the PS3 scene wouldnt be where it was

and you do realize the gateway team are making a Homebrew loader?

Oh man, I really feel stupid dumb now for update my 3DS, shit...

 

[Pong20302000]

Bullshit. No one else knows anything about the exploit apart from some vague hints.

I've heard nothing about a homebrew loader for the Gateway. Source?
All they said was that a GUI was coming. They said nothing about homebrew.

its using teh "mset hack" on teh 3DS which is documented on 3DS Brew

maybe you should check there site as its on there front page about the homebrew loader

Oh man, I really feel stupid dumb now for update my 3DS, shit...

just dont update any more ;D
id stay on 6.2.0 at least as nintendo will now most likely remove the "mset hack" with the next update