Hacking Friend List freezes

[Halvorsen]

I just updated my emunand to 10.5 from 9.2. Whenever I access the Friend List, it hangs. Does formatting emunand help? Will I have to recreate the dbs files?
New 3DS, Cakes.

 

[Halvorsen]

Bump.
Also, closing the system in sleep mode freezes at a black screen.

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Formatted, and it works.
Thanks for your help!!
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[DarkFlare69]

I don't have a fix or anything, but just adding, friends list freezes for me too, except I'm using rxTools. Works fine in Gateway mode though.

 

[Agent Moose]

I'm pretty sure it's because your emunand and sysnand are linked. I can go onto mine just perfectly fine with rxtools.

 

[GalladeGuy]

I'm pretty sure it's because your emunand and sysnand are linked. I can go onto mine just perfectly fine with rxtools.

Mine are linked, but the friend list functions perfectly fine on my 10.5 RXtools.

 

[cvskid]

Read in another thread that all you have to do is wait for it to unfreeze once you go into it.

 

[Halvorsen]

Read in another thread that all you have to do is wait for it to unfreeze once you go into it.

Not for me. Had it going for 15 minutes.
And no, they were unlinked.

 

[ric.]

Is your SD card a Class 4 or something? I've had horrendously slow emuNAND speed on a 16gb class 4 Kingston SD card. Had to wait like 10 minutes for the system to wake up from sleep mode.

 

[Halvorsen]

It doesn't happen on my other Class 4 Card. And when I formatted, it worked.

 

[Deleted User]

Nobody should be using class 4 cards for emuNAND... Class 10 cards aren't that much more expensive. Heck, depending on the brand, they're cheaper. I got a Class 10 Kingston 64GB microSD card with SD and USB adapters for $30. I used a class 4 for emunand at first and I contemplated ending my life.
But if it works, I won't stop you.

 

[Halvorsen]

Nobody should be using class 4 cards for emuNAND... Class 10 cards aren't that much more expensive. Heck, depending on the brand, they're cheaper. I got a Class 10 Kingston 64GB microSD card with SD and USB adapters for $30. I used a class 4 for emunand at first and I contemplated ending my life.
But if it works, I won't stop you.

It's not like I haven't been trying lately.

 

[ric.]

Nobody should be using class 4 cards for emuNAND... Class 10 cards aren't that much more expensive. Heck, depending on the brand, they're cheaper. I got a Class 10 Kingston 64GB microSD card with SD and USB adapters for $30. I used a class 4 for emunand at first and I contemplated ending my life.
But if it works, I won't stop you.

This.
For regular usage and homebrew, class 4 is fine, but emuNAND is absolutely unbearable at those speeds. Class 10 is HIGHLY recommended. Sure, a C4 will technically *work*, but you'll be stuck waiting for everything to load.

 

[Halvorsen]

This.
For regular usage and homebrew, class 4 is fine, but emuNAND is absolutely unbearable at those speeds. Class 10 is HIGHLY recommended. Sure, a C4 will technically *work*, but you'll be stuck waiting for everything to load.

My stuff isn't slow at all...
Literally everything loads instantly. Tests were even shown that with the 3DS, Class speed doesn't matter.
Either way, the only speed difference a Class 10 would bring for loading times are milliseconds.

 

[Deleted User]

My stuff isn't slow at all...
Literally everything loads instantly. Tests were even shown that with the 3DS, Class speed doesn't matter.
Either way, the only speed difference a Class 10 would bring for loading times are milliseconds.

Back before I started haxxing I had a class 4 card, and I couldn't record 3D video for more than 30 seconds (write speed was insufficient), but that's about it for non-homebrew stuff. I still reccommend Class 10.

 

[MelonGx]

Note:
Most of the Class 10 MicroSDs are TLC chip.
But bundled Class 4 SDs are MLC chip, which has 10x durability.

 

[ric.]

Note:
Most of the Class 10 MicroSDs are TLC chip.
But bundled Class 4 SDs are MLC chip, which has 10x durability.

I believe you got that wrong.
The main difference between SLC (Single Level Cell) chips and MLC (Multi Level Cell) is how the chip stores data - MLC stores two or more bits per NAND flash cell, while SLC only stores one. SLC stores data faster, lasts longer (about 10 times more than a regular MLC chip) and consumes less power, but are obviously more expensive and are therefore geared more towards the server market and high-end consumers. MLC on the other hand, give you more bang for your buck - since it stores more bits per cell, it allows for manufacturers to offer more capacity at lower costs. Obviously most of the SD cards you'll find on the market are MLC.
I highly doubt Nintendo has been including SLC-based SD cards on their consoles. I don't remember what model the SD card included in the 3DS is, but I'm 99% sure it's an SD with an MLC-chip.

 

[MelonGx]

I believe you got that wrong.
The main difference between SLC (Single Level Cell) chips and MLC (Multi Level Cell) is how the chip stores data - MLC stores two or more bits per NAND flash cell, while SLC only stores one. SLC stores data faster, lasts longer (about 10 times more than a regular MLC chip) and consumes less power, but are obviously more expensive and are therefore geared more towards the server market and high-end consumers. MLC on the other hand, give you more bang for your buck - since it stores more bits per cell, it allows for manufacturers to offer more capacity at lower costs. Obviously most of the SD cards you'll find on the market are MLC.
I highly doubt Nintendo has been including SLC-based SD cards on their consoles. I don't remember what model the SD card included in the 3DS is, but I'm 99% sure it's an SD with an MLC-chip.

You are outdated.
There are NO SLC in consumer SD market since 2012 - The last SLC product is Toshiba Premiugate, the first gen of R95/W80. They have already been bid to an insane price on Yahoo Auction JPN. So if there was any common SD being proved SLC, it would be snapped up immediately.
Sandisk also said that they were going to produce everything in TLC since 2017.

TLC only has 1,000 circles durability, but much less cost than 10,000 circles' MLC.