Homebrew Freeshop gets DMCA'd on Github...

[GalladeGuy]

Guys, can we please try to keep this discussion on topic?

 

[Wolvan]

Dumb counter argument. Web browsers serve so so so so so so so so many other uses than to download illegal files. Note how I said the device's only function is to blow up the planet, not that its a device capable of all sorts of things including possibly blowing up the planet.

The same way you can use Freeshop for other purposes than downloading illegal copies of a game?

Guys, can we please try to keep this discussion on topic?

Sorry, you're right. Couldn't help myself, though.

 

[duffmmann]

The same way you can use Freeshop for other purposes than downloading illegal copies of a game?

I really hate repeating myself, sigh. You mean those purposes that the official eshop can already fulfill? Give me a break, we all know what the only real purpose of the freeshop is, and Nintendo is no fool to this fact either.

 

[RemixDeluxe]

So the application still works? It's just access to the download that's taken down right?

 

[Joom]

I really hate repeating myself, sigh. You mean those purposes that the official eshop can already fulfill? Give me a break, we all know what the only real purpose of the freeshop is, and Nintendo is no fool to this fact either.

That's beside the point. As I've said, Nintendo has to prove that this is its intended purpose, and they can't without a direct confession.

 

[Arubaro]

All the arguments have been already exposed and all of us are pigheaded, so this conversation is going nowhere.
The same arguments keep repeating again and again

 

[duffmmann]

That's beside the point. As I've said, Nintendo has to prove that this is its intended purpose, and they can't without a direct confession.

I'm surprised people aren't trying to argue that the clock in Freeshop is a "legit" reason one might have Freeshop. (Though I don't have my 3DS in front of me, can't recall if the Freeshop has a clock or not). I mean, we can do this *wink *wink *nudge *nudge thing all we want. But lets be real, no one out there has the freeshop just to redownload files they already paid for or to download demos, there would be zero reason to do that when an installed on the system out of the box app does that just fine.

 

[proflayton123]

Just saw this, wow, gg Nintendo, downloading the repo is a thing xo

 

[Jacklack3]

While yeah, freeShop is awesome and some people hate Nintendo for that, it's because the app is about piracy. But even then it doesn't directly contain any copyrighted material.

 

[Pandaxclone2]

Well I mean, an emulator's only purpose is to emulate its target system and in effect it can play games, and an emulator is legal so long as it doesn't use any official code of the target system. Freeshop is sort of in effect that, just without the ability to decrypt any of the encrypted titles. Without the keys it's effectively useless on its own.

Well whatever, my overall point still stands. That everything freeshop could do legally, the already legit eshop could do as well. So the *wink *wink *nudge *nudge reality is that the only real purpose the freeshop serves is for illegal means.

What about if Nintendo has banned me from the eShop servers and so in order to redownload my legit copies of my games I have to use Freeshop to do it?

 

[Joom]

I'm surprised people aren't trying to argue that the clock in Freeshop is a "legit" reason one might have Freeshop. (Though I don't have my 3DS in front of me, can't recall if the Freeshop has a clock or not). I mean, we can do this *wink *wink *nudge *nudge thing all we want. But lets be real, no one out there has the freeshop just to redownload files they already paid for or to download demos, there would be zero reason to do that when an installed on the system out of the box app does that just fine.

And? This skating around is how cases like this are won. Nintendo has to prove that freeShop's intended purpose is piracy, and that the owner is purveying it as such.

 

[Drakkar Blackblaze]

I'm surprised people aren't trying to argue that the clock in Freeshop is a "legit" reason one might have Freeshop. (Though I don't have my 3DS in front of me, can't recall if the Freeshop has a clock or not). I mean, we can do this *wink *wink *nudge *nudge thing all we want. But lets be real, no one out there has the freeshop just to redownload files they already paid for or to download demos, there would be zero reason to do that when an installed on the system out of the box app does that just fine.

being used to ill purposes doesn't make the app inherently bad
using your analogies, is like saying are guns are bad, all guns are evil, even though policemen use them to protect people

you argue that eshop already does the same, but im gonna argue that i would use freeshop to redownload my stuff since its download speed is higher, so, how's that?

 

[duffmmann]

Well I mean, an emulator's only purpose is to emulate its target system and in effect it can play games. Freeshop is sort of in effect that, just without the ability to decrypt any of the encrypted titles. Without the keys it's effectively useless on its own.


What about if Nintendo has banned me from the eShop servers and so in order to redownload my legit copies of my games I have to use Freeshop to do it?

Well come on man, if you got banned from the eshop servers to begin with, you already did something illegal (my money is on playing Pokemon Sun or Moon online before they were officially released), so that argument doesn't really need to be entertained.

Plus I mean, just look at its name: Freeshop. It might as well have been called: "Give that Game to Me for No Money Shop" They're barely "hiding" the real function of the app, and I think its dumb that people here are trying to act like it's not clear at all what the purpose of the Freeshop is. And I'm someone that has enjoyed the app in the past, I'm just being honest about what it is.

 

[AxlSt00pid]

Totally waiting for that iso site, that chaos site and that title key site to get sued by Nin10doh

 

[DarkenedMatter]

Well I mean, an emulator's only purpose is to emulate its target system and in effect it can play games, and an emulator is legal so long as it doesn't use any official code of the target system. Freeshop is sort of in effect that, just without the ability to decrypt any of the encrypted titles. Without the keys it's effectively useless on its own.


What about if Nintendo has banned me from the eShop servers and so in order to redownload my legit copies of my games I have to use Freeshop to do it?

You know some white knight is gonna be like hurhur you clearly deserve getting banned from the eShop servers because you did something absolutely horrible or else they wouldn't have ever banned you.

 

[Joom]

Well come on man, if you got banned from the eshop servers to begin with, you already did something illegal (my money is on playing Pokemon Sun or Moon online before they were officially released), so that argument doesn't really need to be entertained.

Plus I mean, just look at its name: Freeshop. It might as well have been called: "Give that Game to Me for No Money Shop" They're barely "hiding" the real function of the app, and I think its dumb that people here are trying to act like it's not clear at all what the purpose of the Freeshop is. And I'm someone that has enjoyed the app in the past, I'm just being honest about what it is.

I'm acting in the same way a judge would if this ever made it to a court room. Also, having "free" in the title doesn't inherently mean it's for piracy, and that argument is a fallacy. It could mean "free alternative".

 

[Pandaxclone2]

You know some white knight is gonna be like hurhur you clearly deserve getting banned from the eShop servers because you did something absolutely horrible or else they wouldn't have ever banned you.

Ninja'd

Well come on man, if you got banned from the eshop servers to begin with, you already did something illegal (my money is on playing Pokemon Sun or Moon online before they were officially released), so that argument doesn't really need to be entertained.

Plus I mean, just look at its name: Freeshop. It might as well have been called: "Give that Game to Me for No Money Shop" They're barely "hiding" the real function of the app, and I think its dumb that people here are trying to act like it's not clear at all what the purpose of the Freeshop is. And I'm someone that has enjoyed the app in the past, I'm just being honest about what it is.

Still, on its own it cannot pirate. You can't play a game unless you have a system, no? Besides, why I'm banned from the eShop and its reason are seperate instances entirely to freeshop. I could've just as easily taken that rom through a site and installed it directly and there'd be no way for you to claim that it was freeshop's fault. The point is there is another way you can use it besides pirating.

 

[Hayleia]

Well come on man, if you got banned from the eshop servers to begin with, you already did something illegal (my money is on playing Pokemon Sun or Moon online before they were officially released), so that argument doesn't really need to be entertained.

You know some white knight is gonna be like hurhur you clearly deserve getting banned from the eShop servers because you did something absolutely horrible or else they wouldn't have ever banned you.

This was just an example, I doubt he was banned for real.
I have another one for you if you want. What if I have two 3DS consoles, I can't really have my NNID on both so when I want to download the demo for Sun/Moon or Pokemon Picross (which you can't download without a NNID) on the system that doesn't have the NNID, I just can't if the only alternative is the freeShop? And actually, I have three 3DS consoles and this story really happened.

 

[DarkenedMatter]

Ninja'd



Still, on its own it cannot pirate. You can't play a game unless you have a system, no? Besides, why I'm banned from the eShop and its reason are seperate instances entirely to freeshop. I could've just as easily taken that rom through a site and installed it directly and there'd be no way for you to claim that it was freeshop's fault. The point is there is another way you can use it besides pirating.

Oh, I see that now. RIP.

 

[duffmmann]

I'm acting in the same way a judge would if this ever made it to a court room. Also, having "free" in the title doesn't inherently mean it's for piracy, and that argument is a fallacy. It could mean "free alternative".

I understand what you're doing, you're trying to get away with murder on a technicality. And hey, you might just do that. But what I'm saying is, well we all still know that you did murder that guy, even if you got off scott free. I don't know how this will all play out on a technicality-legal level, but I'm just looking at this with a realistic rational point of view: The Freeshop in reality serves one real purpose and we all know it, Nintendo included. Their DMCA takedown shouldn't come to a shock to anyone.