Firm Sues Sony Over Cell processor

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  1. assassinz

    assassinz Visoly 512 Flash Advance Linker Xtreme Master!

    Mar 17, 2003
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  2. nintendofreak

    nintendofreak Around. Shoot me a PM.

    Mar 27, 2006
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    if Sony loses, i would suppose so [​IMG]

    Id love to see Sony lose this case... [​IMG]
  3. Linkiboy

    Linkiboy GBAtemp Testing Area

    May 14, 2006
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    Sony copies even when its not aware its copying!
  4. JPH

    JPH Banned

    Jul 11, 2006
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    That is what I call karma, my friends.

  5. Lukeage

    Lukeage GBAtemp Regular

    Feb 24, 2004
    I was going to say this looks like a patent troll (it very well could be) because from the article it sounded like they had a pantent on any form of parallel processing that utilises multiple cpus with a single data set, however, after reading the patent (Patent), it appear the claim is based on the fact that the Cell processor has a Main CPU with multiple slaves, whereas more general computing has each CPU is it's own master, however they can be set off to do slave tasks.

    Edit: I re-read and it says any CPU can be a master....

    If they win, I can't the the PS3 disappearing off the market, Sony will just pay out licensing and things will keep on going.
  6. Darkforce

    Darkforce DERP!

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    Nov 5, 2002

    But yeah, just another stupid company trying to make a quick buck via patents:

    Register vague patent and sit on it.

    As fun as it would be for Sony to lose this one, they'll probably win. [​IMG]
  7. Destructobot

    Destructobot Crave the Hammer

    Oct 15, 2006
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    Portland, OR
    The whole patent system is really messed up. It's almost impossible to be sure you aren't infringing on anyone's patent even if you have a large budget for patent research.

    This particular patent was filed on November 7, 1989, so it expires on November 7, 2009. If Sony can just drag this case out for 2 years, they'll be home free.
  8. adgloride

    adgloride Its A Wii Wario

    Apr 2, 2003
    If a company patent something and are infringing another patent. They should have to come forward quickly. If you don't, you have no claim.
  9. Destructobot

    Destructobot Crave the Hammer

    Oct 15, 2006
    United States
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    I think that's how it works in the US, for both patents and copyrights.
  10. iTech

    iTech GBAtemp Regular

    Jun 14, 2007
    United States
    When the Cell processor was first announced, I wrote a big tirade on the net on how I had invented it myself during many late night pounding sessions (which is when I do my best pondering). Immediately, some other guys revealed that they had thought-up similar things while in college, the bathroom, etc. So the idea is certainly not unique (and just a spin on multi core/multi processor systems. I envisioned several tiny processors on a single die responsible for executing user-definable instructions capable of executing in parallel, which is not far off from the CELL (but better still) so no wonder someone went out and patented it. I doubt Sony would lose though, as there is tons of prior art which, and a team of great lawyers could make the patent appear void (Each multiprocessor system can be argued to be what was described in the patent). And even if they lose, all they need to do is either pay out the requested fees, or change the processor in a small way to make the patent inapplicable.

    [EDIT:] WTF kind of sentence was *that*?
  11. Veho

    Veho The man who cried "Ni".

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    Apr 4, 2006
    The Cell processor was modeled after the mainframe architecture IBM developed in the 70's. The Cell processor is basically a mainframe computer at a higher tact and on one chip instead of several chips on one motherboard (and some graphics acceleration added for good measure). And, the Cell was developed partly by IBM. Now, even if the firm filing the lawsuit has a patent, IBM has evidence of prior art; they were there first.

    Still, Sony is in danger of the "Eolas effect". Just like Eolas managed to patent "plugins" when everyone else had been using plugins for years, and went on to win a lawsuit against Microsoft for using their "patented plugin technology" in Internet Explorer (prior art or not), the people suing Sony have a good shot at achieving an out of court settlement at least.

    It's a weird world. I'm just waiting for someone to sue McDonalds for infringing someone else's "minced cow inna bun" patent... [​IMG]

    *goes to patent hamburgers*

    EDIT: Wait. I just remembered Sony got their ass handed to them by Immersion, over the rumble patent, and that was a wild one, with "no chance of succeeding"...

    Oh well. Bye-bye Sony Electronic Entertainment department. It's been fun knowing you... [​IMG]