Hacking Discussion Finally 15th here! So how do you guys plan to take advantage of potentially full control of Switch?

[matias3ds]

Well 5 more days of waiting thats great !!!

 

[aos10]

Piracy of course, also PS1 and PSP when possible.
and save backup and cheat engine apps.

 

[digipimp75]

Do you kids have any damn patience? Go outside, go read a book, do something constructive. Don't worry, your little box of piracy will be here soon enough!

 

[kevin corms]

No, will never happen.

WiiU is PowerPC and Switch is ARM64.

You'll need a multiple of the WiiUs performance to emulate it at a reasonable speed.

Not really, the xbox one can emulate the 360 and its not much more powerful cpu wise. Not only does it work for xbox, but the games usually run much better than original hardware. Its just not very easy to do, but with low level access its possible. Dont think of pc emulators, they have a ton of overhead and not even driver level optimization.
All that being said, I doubt anyone will build the team and spend the time necessary without getting paid to emulate wii u on switch.

 

[MHDestination]

Not really, the xbox one can emulate the 360 and its not much more powerful cpu wise.

The xbox one doesn't emulate the 360.

Microsoft recompiles all binaries for x86 architecture.

That's why you have to download the games even
after putting your 360 gamedisc in the drive.

Sorry, i'm not trying to offend you.
But you don't seem to understand how emulation works.

 

[kevin corms]

The xbox one doesn't emulate the 360.

Microsoft recompiles all binaries for x86 architecture.

That's why you have to download the games even
after putting your 360 gamedisc in the drive.

Sorry, i'm not trying to offend you.
But you don't seem to understand how emulation works.

Yes its still emulation though
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/revealed-how-xbox-one-can-play-360-games-via-backw/1100-6428366/

 

[MHDestination]

Yes its still emulation though
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/revealed-how-xbox-one-can-play-360-games-via-backw/1100-6428366/

No it's not.

They are not properly emulating the powerpc architecture.

Phil spencer calls it [emulation] ...i guess you noticed the bracklets?

They ported the x360 framework to xbox one and the x86 architecture.
So they are "emulating" the functions of the system.

But they are not actually translating cpu calls on the fly from powerpc to x86.
That's what an actual emulation would do.

And still: you have to download the recompiled parts for every game you play.
A real emulation won't need that.

 

[kevin corms]

No it's not.

They are not properly emulating the powerpc architecture.

Phil spencer calls it [emulation] ...i guess you noticed the bracklets?

They ported the x360 framework to xbox one and the x86 architecture.
So they are "emulating" the functions of the system.

But they are not actually translating cpu calls on the fly from powerpc to x86.
That's what an actual emulation would do.

And still: you have to download the recompiled parts for every game you play.
A real emulation won't need that.

Sure they are cheating and recompiling, but its still emulation. They arent exactly porting the games to the one either, so Ill call it emulation with an *. Somebody could do the same for the switch, but I doubt anybody will go that far.

 

[MHDestination]

Sure they are cheating and recompiling, but its still emulation. Somebody could do the same for the switch, but I doubt anybody will go that far.

No, recompiling is no emulation.

It won't happen for WiiU -> Switch
To recompile anything, you'll need atleast the sourcecode.

 

[kevin corms]

No, recompiling is no emulation.

It won't happen for WiiU -> Switch
To recompile anything, you'll need atleast the sourcecode.

I agree that it wont happen on switch, but its still emulation on the xbox one. The games still aren't running natively on the one so its still emulation. There is still reproduction of the xbox 360 going on, its still emulation.

 

[MHDestination]

I agree that it wont happen on switch, but its still emulation on the xbox one. The games still aren't running natively on the one so its still emulation. There is still reproduction of the xbox 360 going on, its still emulation.

Okay, let's come to an compromise here:
xbox one performs a "framework emulation" to play the recompiled games.

Since we are unable to port the WiiU framework to switch and unable to recompile the games, this is no option for us.
Therefore we'll need a full "hardware emulation". But that won't happen either.
Since the Tegra is to weak for a full hardware emulation.

 

[kevin corms]

Okay, let's come to an compromise here:
xbox one performs a "framework emulation" to play the recompiled games.

Since we are unable to port the WiiU framework to switch and unable to recompile the games,
this is no option for us.
Therefore we'll need a full "hardware emulation". But that wont happen either.
Because the Tegra is to weak for a full hardware emulation.

I can agree with that.

 

[Taffy]

Um...SNES already works on 5.1...i've been playing Killer Instinct, Donkey Kong Country and UMK3 a lot on it...granted, it's the Retroarch version, but it still works

Ahem... Allow me to express my gratitude.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA...

YES!

Anyways... I just want snes games on the go. A bad sd reader fucked my 3ds over and I lost the charger. I lost a number of games and saves... But with the Switch I'm gonnago a different path. Homebrew only. SNES9x is all I need!

and maybe a nice file browser too. And themes maybe.

 

[CaptainLoozer]

Ahem... Allow me to express my gratitude.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA...

YES!

Anyways... I just want snes games on the go. A bad sd reader fucked my 3ds over and I lost the charger. I lost a number of games and saves... But with the Switch I'm gonnago a different path. Homebrew only. SNES9x is all I need!

and maybe a nice file browser too. And themes maybe.

Well if all you want is SNES emulation, that's already available and has been for a while.

 

[Proto-Propski]

Careful!
Your Switch will die too soon with so much fun on it!

I wouldn't doubt that with the strain I've put on it since I got Homebrew running, but I just hope it can take my abuse for a few more months when things really start to heat-up with the scene, I wouldn't want to pull my back-up system too soon. lol

*Crossing My Fingers*