Hacking Few Questions about System Menu patching/updating

[ayojoe]

Reference to what was done to my Wii is in my sig, in order from left to right. For specifics on what was done to patch my System Menu, check the very last line of the bold blue paragraph.

I just want to ask a few questions considering if there ever is a stellar Wii system update (like the cool additions from 4.0) I want to update to, or if a game requires an update, so that I'll know what to do. I'm getting Metroid Prime Trilogy this week and I assume it will have a disc update, but I'm unsure whether or not it matters.

I do have my menu patched to block disc updates among other things, but here's my questions..

1. I have blocked updates from The Conduit and will probably block them from Metroid Prime Trilogy. Should I use WUFE to extract the games updates and install them?

2. Is it safe/normal to manually install/update IOS? What if they are the same? (example, if I install the same IOS from The Conduit and Metroid, would it just overwrite?)

3. Will WUFE only extract IOS wads from the game disc, because I heard Conduit has a MIOS update on it too among other things (probably to block GCN piracy). Do I only need to install IOS' and is it good to update them even if the games don't need them? Which IOS' should I install if it has multiple ones? My IOS35 and IOS36 are trucha-patched.

4. Since I used StartPatch to patch my menu for features, if I ever wanted to install a new System Menu would it be smart to uninstall those patches and then update first to prevent problems or does it not matter? Would my system mess up from anything else in my sig like patched ES_identify or trucha-patches, CIOS, etc..

5. Kind of off topic, but I think I have BootMii beta 2 installed on my Wii, and I used it to back up my NAND. Is it possible to use the new beta 3 of BootMii via replacing a start up file or something, or am I stuck with what I used then and still have now?

 

[illinialex24]

Reference to what was done to my Wii is in my sig, in order from left to right. For specifics on what was done to patch my System Menu, check the very last line of the bold blue paragraph.

I just want to ask a few questions considering if there ever is a stellar Wii system update (like the cool additions from 4.0) I want to update to, or if a game requires an update, so that I'll know what to do. I'm getting Metroid Prime Trilogy this week and I assume it will have a disc update, but I'm unsure whether or not it matters.

I do have my menu patched to block disc updates among other things, but here's my questions..

1. I have blocked updates from The Conduit and will probably block them from Metroid Prime Trilogy. Should I use WUFE to extract the games updates and install them?

No, 4.1 has all the same IOS's, just a different system menu so there is no reason to update.

2. Is it safe/normal to manually install/update IOS? What if they are the same? (example, if I install the same IOS from The Conduit and Metroid, would it just overwrite?)

Get the most recent version generally, but for Conduit and Metroid Trilogy they are the same (the IOS's on the disc, 4.0 to 4.1 has no differences).

3. Will WUFE only extract IOS wads from the game disc, because I heard Conduit has a MIOS update on it too among other things (probably to block GCN piracy). Do I only need to install IOS' and is it good to update them even if the games don't need them? Which IOS' should I install if it has multiple ones? My IOS35 and IOS36 are trucha-patched.

No, I think it extracts everything inside the _sys_ part of the update partition, you should be able to choose what you want to install. Just update the IOS's but if your on 4.0, you don't need to update anything.

4. Since I used StartPatch to patch my menu for features, if I ever wanted to install a new System Menu would it be smart to uninstall those patches and then update first to prevent problems or does it not matter? Would my system mess up from anything else in my sig like patched ES_identify or trucha-patches, CIOS, etc..

I don't think it matters, everything would be undone though.

5. Kind of off topic, but I think I have BootMii beta 2 installed on my Wii, and I used it to back up my NAND. Is it possible to use the new beta 3 of BootMii via replacing a start up file or something, or am I stuck with what I used then and still have now?

I don't think there is any reason to. Bootmii beta2 works fine I think, you could likely install over it but theres no point.

Answers in bold.

http://wiibrew.org/wiki/System_Menu_4.1

Check that out for a basic guide, go to 4.0 to see the difference.

 

[ayojoe]

Thanks a lot man, btw I seen your work/help with the Smash community, you do a real good job on that.

 

[illinialex24]

Thank you, glad to help.

And I think a lot of people have prefered hackmii beta2 to 3 because of an issue with restoring old NAND dumps after updating.

 

[azeazezar]

If you install bootmii v3, make a new nand backup. the old one isn't compatible

 

[ayojoe]

Can you/would it be smart to install a new BootMii over a previous one though? Would you do it the same way through bannerbomb?

If I don't change my BootMii version: My NAND dump is pretty out-dated in terms of when I did compared to what I have modded on my Wii now. What if I wanted to do another NAND Dump, would that be safe? I just want a more updated dump so I wouldn't have to do all my mods over in case I restore my Wii from a brick.

 

[0M39A]

If you install bootmii v3, make a new nand backup. the old one isn't compatible

no, the old backup is compatible, the new one wont be without editing it using a hex editor.