Hardware Exchanging thermal paste?

[Huntereb]

@HunterebWhen it comes to games like MK I didn't notice any change in temps.

I guess it's not as intensive as BotW. If I develop issues with heat when I play other games in the future, I'll be sure to re-apply. I'm questioning how well the thermal pad I placed between the heatsink and shroud will benefit or damage me.

Oh this also includes me removing the metal cap and keeping it off.

You mean the cap over the die, or the heat shroud covering the internals from the backplate?

 

[CallmeBerto]

I guess it's not as intensive as BotW. If I develop issues with heat when I play other games in the future, I'll be sure to re-apply. I'm questioning how well the thermal pad I placed between the heatsink and shroud will benefit or damage me.


You mean the cap over the die, or the heat shroud covering the internals from the backplate?

Cap over the dye and memory chips

 

[Huntereb]

Cap over the dye and memory chips

Hmph! I'll have to re-dive into this process then, did not know they were easily removed. Do they just take a little wiggle to pry off?

 

[CallmeBerto]

Hmph! I'll have to re-dive into this process then, did not know they were easily removed. Do they just take a little wiggle to pry off?

I just use tweezers. I started from where the memory chips are and pulled at an angel. Once you get part of it off it comes off really easy.

 

[Clydefrosch]

which part did you remove entirely?

also, going by the pictures, the paste on top of the heatpipe seems to be on pretty thick. did you replace it with an equal amount of paste? a pad?

 

[Jungle_Jon]

People that have added thermal pads and changed the Thermal paste, did you also remove the Copper shim like the gentleman in the video did ?

 

[The Real Jdbye]

Well I plan on using liquid metal on the GPU/CPU, Arctic Silver between the cooper sheet and the heat pipe plate, and Arctic Silver between the heat pipe plate and the metal casing. However there are several other places between the metal casing and the internal components where there are thermal pads that I'm going to replace that I don't believe thermal paste would be appropriate; thus thermal pads. Just wasn't sure what size, I would hate to have bulging.

I wouldn't recommend liquid metal, even though it is damn cool and works great, it's meant for stationary desktops, as movement can fling tiny droplets of liquid metal around and that's definitely not something you want.
I also wouldn't recommend Arctic Silver, there are far better options these days.

 

[slaphappygamer]

From what I've read (I haven't done mine yet) yes. But you need to be cautious not to put too much, just like in a laptop or PC. A small drop spread thinly around with a fine paint brush or Q-tip. I also am only going to use the liquid metal directly on the GPU/CPU and Arctic Silver and thermal pads everywhere else. There is always risk when using liquid metal, but if used correctly the risk is low.

true. dont use too much paste. i used a bit much on my 360 and it didnt boot. i think i suffocated the cpu with the paste. i got back in there and it now boots quietly (as long as there is no disc inserted).

 

[Viri]

Wrong thread, LOL!

 

[guily6669]

http://www.frozencpu.com/cat/l3/g8/...rmal_Pads_Tape-Thermal_Pad_-_15mm_-Page1.html

You'll notice the Fujipoly has one that is 17 W/mK

Wow... I wonder if its real, I mean that's even way better than AS5 and probably any non liquid metal thermal compound, seems kinda dodgy other than the big price

With that stuff then I could just delid my Desktop CPU, throw the metal capp in the garbage, add one of those thermal pads with direct contact with the CPU die and maybe modify the socket a bit (if the height is still not enough) and get even better thermal solution than using a good thermal compound LOL, I still find it strange to have that much mehhh I will just use MX-4 and I know at least I don't need to re-apply for so many years.

 

[Jungle_Jon]

@nero99 @guily6669 @CallmeBerto @MrBland When you replaced the The thermal paste did you remove the copper shim aswell ?, im really not sure if its a good idea or not to, but believe it will make the most differrence in temps.

 

[CallmeBerto]

@Jungle_Jon

I did. I'm glad I did too as the paste under it was also trash. I didn't bother to replace it either. I used a bit of paste and apply and the copper pipes directly to the die.

 

[guily6669]

@nero99 @guily6669 @CallmeBerto @MrBland When you replaced the The thermal paste did you remove the copper shim aswell ?, im really not sure if its a good idea or not to, but believe it will make the most differrence in temps.

I still haven't done it... I will only mod mine the day atmosphere come out, but I'm thinking to do other cooling mods, like buying a thick copper shim from ebay, buy a permanent thermal glue and add copper in all god damn bigger chips on the whole motherboard, but I still don't know what clearance we have in it...

I want to also maybe cut the joy-con and add a small button for RCM.

@Jungle_Jon

I did. I'm glad I did too as the paste under it was also trash. I didn't bother to replace it either. I used a bit of paste and apply and the copper pipes directly to the die.

Yep, I think that's what makes the whole bigger difference... The more metal you have the more cooling power you have, however Switch design is pretty damn strange...

the Heat pipe is just the big lot more efficient cooler and the copper shim almost does nothing at all, the thing is thermal paste is not 100% efficient on heat transfer, not even copper or anything is, so having thermal compound to a small inefficient copper shim and then again more thermal compound above that to the more efficient heat pipe with cooling fins and the fan I think a bit of heat transfer is actually being lost...

Now if it was direct thermal paste to the copper heatpipe and only above it having more thermal paste to a bit of copper I wouldn't remove as the more metal the better.

Anyway when you put thermal compound without it, does it really feel like it fully touch the SOC die like having the copper shim????

 

[CallmeBerto]

I still haven't done it... I will only mod mine the day atmosphere come out, but I'm thinking to do other cooling mods, like buying a thick copper shim from ebay, buy a permanent thermal glue and add copper in all god damn bigger chips on the whole motherboard, but I still don't know what clearance we have in it...

I want to also maybe cut the joy-con and add a small button for RCM.

There is no clearance everything is a tight fit. MAYBE half an inch.

 

[Clydefrosch]

Anyway when you put thermal compound without it, does it really feel like it fully touch the SOC die like having the copper shim????

i wonder about that too, it seems like you'd need a somewhat thick glob of paste to bridge the gap there and im not sure if a glob wouldn't be able run a bit when held and whatnot?

 

[CallmeBerto]

i wonder about that too, it seems like you'd need a somewhat thick glob of paste to bridge the gap there and im not sure if a glob wouldn't be able run a bit when held and whatnot?

It does as there are 3 screws that hold it down. Add a small drop and spread it with your fingers. Should be a really thin layer.

 

[Clydefrosch]

It does as there are 3 screws that hold it down. Add a small drop and spread it with your fingers. Should be a really thin layer.

so the screws can push the heatpipe down further when the shim is out of the way?

 

[CallmeBerto]

so the screws can push the heatpipe down further when the shim is out of the way?

Yes it makes direct contact.

 

[linuxares]

gelid solutions gc extreme seems to be good for this

 

[Michael Morsette]

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Some notes on my project:
I put Acrylic Conformal Coating all around the board where I put the liquid metal.

I did not put the copper shim back so that the heat sink has direct contact with liquid metal between. I researched and could not find if the sink was/has aluminum. I have an extra torn up switch I can use as parts, and you can buy switch parts on line so I took the risk. I was nervous about how "open" the liquid metal was so I may have erred on the side of using too little liquid metal. I basically thinly painted the SoC and the sink.

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I am currently running a very unscientific test to see if there is a noticeable difference between a modded and unmodded switch.