DS #5140: Last Window: The Secret of Cape West (Europe)

[ShadowSoldier]

Got a Question, I'm gonna play this on my DS Lite using my M3 Simply with the Wood Firmware why waiting for a fix for Acekard using Akaio. Could I when the Acekard is fixed, export the save from the M3 Simply and play it on my Acekard or wouldn't it work? Thanks

Don't see why not. When I had my R4 SDHC, when I went to go put games on my Acekard, I had to convert the .sav so the Acekard would read it.

 

[xLaraCroftx]

Got a Question, I'm gonna play this on my DS Lite using my M3 Simply with the Wood Firmware why waiting for a fix for Acekard using Akaio. Could I when the Acekard is fixed, export the save from the M3 Simply and play it on my Acekard or wouldn't it work? Thanks

Don't see why not. When I had my R4 SDHC, when I went to go put games on my Acekard, I had to convert the .sav so the Acekard would read it.

Wicked, I cant hold out any longer, only held out this long cos i didn't want to play it on my tiny DS Lite lol

 

[NinjaMic]

Yeah I went ahead and bought it from NCSX


Why the hell not, the first game was that good and this looks to be more of the same

 

[damaztur]

That's it, I'm going to my gameshop and I am going to buy it!
I can't wait anymore..

I think I'll go for that too. When you've bought it, could you tell me where? I've been looking in five different stores but no results thus far.

I haven't bought it yet.. School got in the way -.- But have you looked in Free Record Shop? They will most likely have it.. You can order it on the site
Or ofcourse Bol.com they always have the games that are most hard to find.

 

[xLaraCroftx]

I'm playing it now but i'm still going to buy it. love this and Hotel Dusk

 

[damaztur]

Ok for every Dutch gamer, I just ordered it via Bol.com.
If everything is alright I should have it delivered by tomorrow.

 

[Eruonen]

Ok for every Dutch gamer, I just ordered it via Bol.com.
If everything is alright I should have it delivered by tomorrow.

Yes, I ordered it there as well and it has already arrived. bol.com is such a great site.

 

[tapsel]

I'm beginning to suspect that there's some sort of silent agreement in the scene to hold back on a patch to boost sales for Cing. Just look how many people in this thread bought this game because they couldn't wait for a fix.

Anyway, I always buy games only after trying them on my flashcard. That's why most of my games are still wrapped in plastic.

 

[Popin]

Just saw this for 30 quid in my local store on my lunch break. May have to grab this after work

Lucky. It's not released here and I don't think it will be anytime soon. If it was here, I'd definitely buy it though.

 

[Skyline969]

Just saw this for 30 quid in my local store on my lunch break. May have to grab this after work

Lucky. It's not released here and I don't think it will be anytime soon. If it was here, I'd definitely buy it though.

I share your pain. I'm hoping they release it in North America, because I'm not gonna pay the extra shipping to get it imported to Canada.

 

[LeonardoGolden]

Lucky ones! Some people don't have a local shop to grab a fresh DS game, though I'm honestly willing to buy this one. Ordering online means a 70-dollar price tag and a month to wait

... Keeping my fingers crossed for an AKAIO update.

It doesn't even come close to $70

It was like $40 where I ordered it from

 

[jesterscourt]

I'm just happy this was Cing's last effort as opposed to AGAIN, which although I finished, was pretty bad.

Did you at least enjoy it?
I've been meaning to continue that game, but the dialogue seems uninspired and rather dull, and the character animations are on the bland side.
I wanted to give Again a chance, since it was a CING game, but it seems more like a time sink than an actual enjoyable experience...

There were a couple problems with AGAIN.

1. Similar style to Hotel Dusk, but without voice acting. Am I saying it needed voice acting? No, but they used real people (or at least looked like real people as opposed to being ripped form the A-Ha video)... Real people, I expect dialogue. Spoken dialogue. At least some.

2. Similar experience to Hotel Dusk, but lame and predictable plot. One of the nice things about Hotel Dusk is that if you got lost, you had to figure it out. Or GameFAQs. For AGAIN, just talk to your blonde partner. Aside from the Garage murder, for some reason I needed GameFAQs for that one.

2b. Translation/Dialogue issues (yes, in comparison to Hotel Dusk) The dialogue was flat, the characters too samey. I didn't "feel" for any of the characters. Kyle Hyde feels like a real character. The Again guy didn't. Heck, I can't even think of his name. Oh yeah, Detective J.

In conclusion, AGAIN feels like a ripoff of Hotel Dusk. It doesn't really add anything (The whole eye of Providence is both underused as a feature, and overused as a plot point). I'd much rather recommend Time Hollow to someone after recommending Hotel Dusk (assuming they have already played both Trace Memory titles).

 

[sblur]

For those complaining: The Wood firmware is open source. It fixes this game with a patch, not a bugfix to the firmware. So theoretically, you should be able to borrow that patch if you know what you're doing.

It's located in patches_pr.cpp, and it calls the method PatchOverlay10 to apply the patch. The actual compiled patch is located in unprot_10.bin in the repository, and it replaces several pieces that have been stubbed out with EFC0DExx in the binary. By reading through the code by hand you can come up with that memory addresses would be getting patched.

Here is what I believe will get written by that method for this game, in the form of an AR code: (I did this by hand, so there's a chance I may have made a mistake somewhere)

02085894 EA0DDAD9
E23FC400 000000B0
D809CFE1 000081E5
1080BDE8 0000A0E3
03402DE9 DC08CFE1
060051E1 0000001A
000081E5 0380BDE8
F8402DE9 0163A0E3
087296E5 086286E5
045296E5 022BC5E3
042286E5 0040A0E1
020951E3 0219A033
B704A0E3 210480E1
0010A0E3 34209FE5
32FF2FE1 4136A0E3
2C109FE5 A41186E5
A42196E5 021512E2
0100000A 101093E5
041084E4 021112E2
F8FFFF1A 045286E5
087286E5 F880BDE8
08A30702 A1416657
5AF50DEB 9CEE0702
C8F70DEA 08E50702

Of course, this assumes a few things:
1. That the memory region at 023FC400 is not used by whatever cart you're using.
2. That the cart you'd use actually supports the 'E' code type.
3. That whatever is being patched here is the reason it's failing everywhere.
Edit: Also, an AR code would be a bad idea for this because it only needs to be written once.

I don't expect the above to work for anyone, but I thought I'd post it just in case it might. (It was a good exercise to see how quickly I could figure out what it was doing.)

On a side note, if you're going to order this (and don't live in Europe) I wouldn't recommend game.co.uk. They claim to ship internationally, but apparently they flag all international orders as suspicious or something. I was hoping to get it faster and cheaper directly from the UK, but it looks like Play-Asia is the only reliable choice.

 

[mcoupe69]

^ clever :/

 

[undercarris]

Awesome game just like the first one!

 

[mariosonic]

Okay guys, I'm kinda stuck right now. "SPOILERS BELOW" (sorry guys,cant remember how to do the spoiler thing.)


EDIT: Got it

 

[FarRenGate]

Sblur, I'm sorry, but how can I use this code? I never used AR codes before, and dont understand how to put it into the rom.

(Acekard 2i flash-card)

 

[Fakie!]

1. Similar style to Hotel Dusk, but without voice acting. Am I saying it needed voice acting? No, but they used real people (or at least looked like real people as opposed to being ripped form the A-Ha video)... Real people, I expect dialogue. Spoken dialogue. At least some.

Hotel Dusk had voice acting?

 

[lukecop80]

i was wondering if anyone could help me
i'm in chapter 4 and i just finished talking to marie and i have to find a penny to put in the envolope and i can't find it and don't know what to do
so if anyone can help that'd be great

 

[lukecop80]

For those complaining: The Wood firmware is open source. It fixes this game with a patch, not a bugfix to the firmware. So theoretically, you should be able to borrow that patch if you know what you're doing.

It's located in patches_pr.cpp, and it calls the method PatchOverlay10 to apply the patch. The actual compiled patch is located in unprot_10.bin in the repository, and it replaces several pieces that have been stubbed out with EFC0DExx in the binary. By reading through the code by hand you can come up with that memory addresses would be getting patched.

Here is what I believe will get written by that method for this game, in the form of an AR code: (I did this by hand, so there's a chance I may have made a mistake somewhere)

02085894 EA0DDAD9
E23FC400 000000B0
D809CFE1 000081E5
1080BDE8 0000A0E3
03402DE9 DC08CFE1
060051E1 0000001A
000081E5 0380BDE8
F8402DE9 0163A0E3
087296E5 086286E5
045296E5 022BC5E3
042286E5 0040A0E1
020951E3 0219A033
B704A0E3 210480E1
0010A0E3 34209FE5
32FF2FE1 4136A0E3
2C109FE5 A41186E5
A42196E5 021512E2
0100000A 101093E5
041084E4 021112E2
F8FFFF1A 045286E5
087286E5 F880BDE8
08A30702 A1416657
5AF50DEB 9CEE0702
C8F70DEA 08E50702

Of course, this assumes a few things:
1. That the memory region at 023FC400 is not used by whatever cart you're using.
2. That the cart you'd use actually supports the 'E' code type.
3. That whatever is being patched here is the reason it's failing everywhere.
Edit: Also, an AR code would be a bad idea for this because it only needs to be written once.

I don't expect the above to work for anyone, but I thought I'd post it just in case it might. (It was a good exercise to see how quickly I could figure out what it was doing.)

On a side note, if you're going to order this (and don't live in Europe) I wouldn't recommend game.co.uk. They claim to ship internationally, but apparently they flag all international orders as suspicious or something. I was hoping to get it faster and cheaper directly from the UK, but it looks like Play-Asia is the only reliable choice.

is there a chance that it would it still work as an AR code