Hardware does any other device available use a pica200 chip?

[lostdwarf]

title says it all.

 

[_Chaz_]

¯\(°_o)/¯

 

[thebigboss14]

I guest the 3DS is the first because I never heard about any kind of phone or game console use it. Maybe yes just need to do some research.

 

[pachura]

Apparently, it is used in something called "NV7" by a company called "NIFCO AT" ???

http://www.dmprof.com/english/e_products/e_case/#nifco

 

[lostdwarf]

Apparently, it is used in something called "NV7" by a company called "NIFCO AT" ???

http://www.dmprof.com/english/e_products/e_case/#nifco

Over the past 15 years, NIFCO Advanced Technology Inc. (NIFCO AT) has been pursuing all the key technologies concerning system controls, including LSI development, board design, software development, content development and sound development. From the standpoint of a plan content developer, the company provides integrated solutions covering development of display control software and development tools, optimization of circuit designs and determination of VDP* specifications and construction of circuits, basic software and development environments and production of plan content to maximize VDP function and performance.
?“VDP”: Video Display Processor. These are installed in amusement devices for video output.

They are used in new high-end 3D arcade machines!
they go on to say:

PICA Graphics IP Core has been designed to flexibly adapt to diversified applications. By incorporating PICA®200 into NV7, the industry’s most competitive graphics LSI has been developed, meeting the demands of the amusement industry, including low power consumption, support for high-speed character animation and a highly advanced shader capability as well as support for movie CODECs.


Examples of entertainment content created using NV7
Customer Comments
Mr. Yoshihiro Nomura, President of NIFCO AT
As can be seen with the winning of the IP Award, PICA has received great recognition. However, I believe that the fact that it has actually proven both its low-power consumption and high performance in NV7, our next-generation 3D/2D graphics LSI, will surely have a great impact on the world of embedded graphics.

images
http://www.dmprof.com/resource/images/page...img_case_02.jpg
http://www.dmprof.com/resource/images/page...img_case_03.jpg

source (again) http://www.dmprof.com/english/e_products/e_case/#nifco

 

[lostdwarf]

http://www.dmprof.com/english/e_products/e_pica_200/

also I noticed something on this page


PICA EMULATOR



maybe it can emulate DS/GBA/N64/SNES without needing the old ARM cores

 

[pachura]

also I noticed something on this page
PICA EMULATOR
maybe it can emulate DS/GBA/N64/SNES without needing the old ARM cores

And maybe it can emulate Xbox360 and PS3, too ?

They are talking about Pica Emulator for PC, so you could develop games for 3DS on your computer.

 

[lostdwarf]

also I noticed something on this page
PICA EMULATOR
maybe it can emulate DS/GBA/N64/SNES without needing the old ARM cores

And maybe it can emulate Xbox360 and PS3, too ?

They are talking about Pica Emulator for PC, so you could develop games for 3DS on your computer.

Oh sorry, my bad, i got excited

 

[Range-TE]

also I noticed something on this page
PICA EMULATOR
maybe it can emulate DS/GBA/N64/SNES without needing the old ARM cores

And maybe it can emulate Xbox360 and PS3, too ?

They are talking about Pica Emulator for PC, so you could develop games for 3DS on your computer.

that might be the base of a possible 3DS emulator for PC in the future

 

[notafanboi]

Hey I'm new,

can't believe no ones posted this up yet!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3A-xxUyJvQQ

oh yeah and if you can do all that cross eyed stuff,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kq5DX135h18...feature=related.

 

[Deleted_171835]

Hey I'm new
can't believe no ones posted this up yet!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3A-xxUyJvQQ

Tons of people have posted that.

 

[notafanboi]

Hey I'm new
can't believe no ones posted this up yet!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3A-xxUyJvQQ

Tons of people have posted that.

haha, oops sorry.

 

[lostdwarf]

bumped for Pachura (couldnt link this in other thread as it has been closed, hopefully you will see this now)

 

[pachura]

bumped for Pachura (couldnt link this in other thread as it has been closed, hopefully you will see this now)

1. You do realize that it was me who posted the original link ?

2. Take a looks at NIFCO's site. It doesn't look anything modern/professional. Plus, it doesn't seem that "high-end 3D arcade machines" are their main area of interest. To be honest, I couldn't find any there.

3. What is more, arcade machines work under completely different conditions than handhelds. Battery life, unit price and generated heat are basically non-issues. Therefore, they might be using Picas200 with 4 times as many rendering pipelines, 8 times as many vertex shaders and 16 times as much graphics memory than the chip to be used in 3DS. And the graphics will incomparable.

4. Plus, they are saying that they've built this NV7 LSI on top of Pica, so again, it might be much, much different from what's going to be used in 3DS.

 

[lostdwarf]

bumped for Pachura (couldnt link this in other thread as it has been closed, hopefully you will see this now)

1. You do realize that it was me who posted the original link ?

2. Take a looks at NIFCO's site. It doesn't look anything modern/professional. Plus, it doesn't seem that "high-end 3D arcade machines" are their main area of interest. To be honest, I couldn't find any there.

3. What is more, arcade machines work under completely different conditions than handhelds. Battery life, unit price and generated heat are basically non-issues. Therefore, they might be using Picas200 with 4 times as many rendering pipelines, 8 times as many vertex shaders and 16 times as much graphics memory than the chip to be used in 3DS. And the graphics will incomparable.

4. Plus, they are saying that they've built this NV7 LSI on top of Pica, so again, it might be much, much different from what's going to be used in 3DS.

1. yes I do

2. not on that site. I will find the link after work and give it to you regarding 3d arcade machines and pica
3. I know and its even a different pica but see 4
4. yes I know this but its the same tool sets the 3ds has, called meastro. but they say they're using pica IN the chip to provide the advanced shaders and 3d processing for the NV7. Thats the cool part they NEED pica for the shaders tech. The same tech as in the 3ds. see 2.


ps. you might be able to find the link in my posts history?? or google??
pps. you were looking at the wrong website. NIFCO AT are an amusement arcade company and creators of NV7 chips with 66mhz pica200's. 3ds is 166mhz!
http://www.nifco-at.co.jp/


ok found these so far
http://www.nifco-at.co.jp/product_nv7.html
http://www.dmprof.com/english/e_products/e_case/
http://www.dmprof.com/e_news/e_press/372/
http://www.dmprof.com/english/e_products/e_pica_200/

cant remember which but one of them starts on about arcade machines. their are more but i'm tired.
night.

 

[Midna]

pps. you were looking at the wrong website. NIFCO AT are an amusement arcade company and creators of NV7 chips with 66mhz pica200's. 3ds is 166mhz!

If ya wanna take the word of an un-cited IGNorance article. 166 is probably the very minimum it'll be using. The newest Pica200 can reach 400MHz at factory clock speed.

 

[Rydian]

The PSP's stock clock rate is 333mhz, but most games downclocked it to 222 to save on battery life and heat.

The DS's ARM9 processor can reach up to 230mhz, but it's downclocked to 67 to save on battery life and heat.

 

[Midna]

Uh huh.

 

[Rydian]

PSP: http://www.joystiq.com/2007/01/15/did-you-...ially-unlocked/
http://www.joystiq.com/2007/08/10/psps-new...d-while-online/


DS: ARM946E-S.
http://www.arm.com/products/processors/cla...arm9/arm946.php
Click "performance" and you'll find two columns of info. One of them states a max clock rate of 230 mz, while the other is 441 (but of course Nintendo's not using that one).