Hacking Devolution Speculation thread

[XFlak]

It takes as long as it takes. I know this is a "speculation" thread, but still, kind of silly to try to predict a release date.

 

[Maxternal]

It takes as long as it takes. I know this is a "speculation" thread, but still, kind of silly to try to predict a release date.

We can take bets on what time of day it will be released, though.

 

[WiiUBricker]

How is predicting a release date silly? People are predicting release dates since the existence of the words release, date and predict.

 

[Maxternal]

I speculate that it will be released later today

 

[mogorman]

I speculate it was released yesterday.

 

[pwsincd]

I guess if someone dev's something and annouces that sooner or later it will be released . that in itself is the reason the speculation begins... when will it... what will it ... how will it.... this whole forum would be probably 50% smaller if those questions didnt exist , doesnt stop the question being pointless though lol.

 

[obcd]

Programmers are usually very bad in calculating the estimated time it will take to finish a program.
If you multiply their scheduled time * 2, you usually come closer to the real needed time.
So, if Tueidj was thinking about approx. 2 months, we should make 4 of it, which means somewhere in july or august (2012)
This is not meant as trolling or attacking him. Everyone managing programmers will more or less agree with me.

I just hope Tueidj will prove I am wrong (this time) (He did before on other subjects.)

 

[XFlak]

what is the point in speculating the release date then exactly? As far as I can tell it's just for your amusement (which is fine, but don't tell me there's a real point to it).

Even if tueidj came into this thread and announced a hard release date, what would that accomplish exactly? Are you going to start ripping GC games to prepare for its release? Oh wait, you can't because you would need devolution (or at least a helluvalot more info) to rip them in a devolution friendly format.

Someone earlier made the analogy that speculating a release date is like an annoying kid in the back seat asking "Are we there yet?" repeatedly. Last time I checked, asking "are we there yet" doesn't help anyone get there faster.

The only reason why I think it's silly is because release date speculation doesn't add any value. I try to make sure all my posts add some kind of value (with the exception of this post of course), so that's why I find it silly. But plz don't be offended, I don't think people that make silly posts are stupid, I just think it's annoying to have to catch up on a whole page's worth of posts where everyone is randomly guessing a release date. All we know for certain is that it hasn't been released yet.

edit: my main point is patience is a virtue. Just chill out and it will be released before you know it.

edit2: this post wasn't directed @ obcd

 

[obcd]

I assume the point is hoping tueidj dropping in with perhaps a new estimate.
It might keep everybody quiet till that date?

 

[wiismodrome]

I assume the point is hoping tueidj dropping in with perhaps a new estimate.
It might keep everybody quiet till that date?

Or just a way to keep speculating about something related to Devolution....

 

[tueidj]

Even if tueidj came into this thread and announced a hard release date, what would that accomplish exactly? Are you going to start ripping GC games to prepare for its release? Oh wait, you can't because you would need devolution (or at least a helluvalot more info) to rip them in a devolution friendly format.

You can rip all your games (if they haven't been done already), Devolution uses original untouched ISO format (and nothing else).

 

[VashTS]

if my sons first words are tueidj (however its pronounced) then can i get an early copy

Im glad to hear the above news. except for that some of my rips are in gcreex format, thats gonna blow to have to re-iso (proper term??) them.

 

[wiismodrome]

You can rip all your games (if they haven't been done already), Devolution uses original untouched ISO format (and nothing else).

As I recall, when I ripped my GC games via USB using Viper GC Extreme, they ended up as *.gcm. Think that's pretty much the same as an ISO, except with a different file extension. Could just change the extension if that's a problem....

 

[Maxternal]

You can rip all your games (if they haven't been done already), Devolution uses original untouched ISO format (and nothing else).

So does that also mean not even any shrunken ISO images?

I will now proceed to speculate that the original disk must be present the first time to "validate" or "install" the ISO image for use with Devolution into a list of sorts that is signed for use exclusively with that console.
I will also speculate that devolution will not actually have it's own ripping ability but will hope you know how to use cleanrip.

 

[XFlak]

I will now proceed to speculate that the original disk must be present the first time to "validate" or "install" the ISO image for use with Devolution into a list of sorts that is signed for use exclusively with that console.

IIRC devolution is supposed to work on the new horizontal wii's that can't read GC disks... I can't even begin to speculate how tueidj's gonna have this work in the end, but I got no doubt that he'll be able to pull it off

 

[tueidj]

The newer wiis won't be supported until I add wiimote support (for obvious reasons) and as previously stated that won't be included in the initial release.

 

[Maxternal]

What does a pc dvd drive do with a GC disc?
AFAIK you can not read the actual data.
But what exactly is the reaction?

Because if that reaction is (mostly) bijective to the game that would be sufficient to let an pc app do the authentication
eg for ppl whose wii cant read gc discs (they would of course might need to dl the actual data from the inet)

Most PC drives are capable of doing the necessary steps to check the authenticity of a GC game, but because the OS normally tries to read the disc's actual data as soon as it is inserted the drive ends up stuck in a read-error-retry loop before any program has a chance to do anything.

Just a guess.

er ... I mean "speculation"

 

[Maxternal]

The newer wiis won't be supported until I add wiimote support (for obvious reasons) and as previously stated that won't be included in the initial release.

Okay, so we will still be left speculating . . . even after it's initial release.

 

[wiismodrome]

I speculate that, when released, Devolution will make the Kessel Run in less than twelve parsecs.

 

[air2004]

I speculate that everyone will be giving tueidj much respect , when its all said and done