Decrypt9 vs hourglass9?

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  1. Small Kat
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    1. What are the difference between decrypt9 and hourglass9?
    2. I want to backup everything with a9lh, to have a updated backup.(themes, nnid, sysnand, etc.)
     
  2. SimplyFedorable

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    Hourglass9 is just a striped down version of decrypt9. It was made to simplify the process of making nand backups and restoring them. It was also nice if you didn't want to do anything else with decrypt9. You can do everything hourglass9 can do in decrypt9. Not sure if you can backup your nnid though. You need to do a system transfer, I'm fairly sure. Correct me if I'm wrong, though!
     
  3. MattKimura

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    The majority of users just use Decrypt9 for nand backups I'd say, so Hourglass9 would be simpler to use just for that. I personally would only use Decrypt9 for guides, such as setting up A9LH or if another guide requires it.
     
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    Hourglass9 is more basic, and also safer by design. It will never let you overwrite A9LH. So if you ever want to restore your 3DS to a fully factory-like state for example, Hourglass9 can't help you.
     
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    1. It's basically a stripped down version of Decrypt9, which is designed to make it much safer for users so they don't accidentally do something like uninstall A9LH by accidentally not selecting "Keep A9LH" when restoring a NAND dump.
    2. themes are all on SD card, so you can't really back that up with either AFAIK. But in terms of functionality Decrypt9 has way more to offer, though most non-power users don't need those extra options so they stick to Hourglass9
     
  6. Small Kat
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    Actually i got a better, more clarified question now. @TheCyberQuake @MattKimura @kedest

    If i back up NOW my sysnand with a9lh and my nnid linked, if i restore that back up later, like a few days, would my nnid still be linked?(Going to back it up with hourglass9 btw)
     
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    Hourglass9 is a stripped down version of Decrypt9, only focusing on backing up NANDS and protecting their A9LH install.
    Decrypt9 is a lot like a more stable RXTools, with more features and no CFW feature. So it has features like game dumping.

    I use both of them.
     
  8. Small Kat
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    I know whats the difference now, but theres a new question i gave out.
     
  9. TheCyberQuake

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    afaik NNID info is stored in NAND, and thus it should still be linked. BUT if you do something like system transfer and then restore the backup, the NNID isn't linked to your device on Ninty's servers and thus it can cause problems when trying to go online until you get your NNID unlinked from the other device (formatting won't do that, you have to either system transfer or call Ninty)
     
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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't Godmode9 and Hourglass9 completely remove any purpose behind Decrypt9 and Emunand9?
     
  11. TheCyberQuake

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    No, afaik Goodmode9 is a file manager, but Decrypt9 can do more like actually decrypt and encrypt files, at last time I used godmode9 it didn't have that. EmuNAND9 has the option to format emuNAND, which none of the other programs can do.
    So no Godmode9 and Hourglass9 won't be enough for everything
     
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    AFAIK EmuNAND9 is also a safe tool, which doesn't write anything into SysNAND at all.
     
  13. cravas

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    Wrong.

    Just do a restore sysnand with Emunand9 and see what happens.
     
  14. orochi115

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    Really? I haven't found that feature in Emunand9.
     
  15. cravas

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    You're right, sorry.
    Was almost sure that it was possible, my bad.